HI Wendy,

We had a similar deal years ago when the local SPCA
decided to have a fund raiser and had a pig bar be que!
We help a protest outside after having no response, except
negative ones. Dress up as the animal they are killing,
call the media and hand out Why Meat is NOT green.

Linda

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 2:36 pm
Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups

Hello Everyone,

I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
Water for North Carolina. It has a sister
organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
Today I received an email from the TN organization
about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
through both states) and as part of that
fundraiser,
"homemade barbeque." YUM! Doesn't it make your
mouth water?

Gag.

So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
words!) for any environmental organization to use
meat in a fundraiser.

What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
about this kind of thing? Do you think it makes
the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
them and make them think that we (vegans) are
trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
depends on the organizer and the organization.

It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
can be quiet if it's strategically called for.

I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
not exactly active in the organization itself.

Thanks!
Wendy

"No more advice. Let yourself be silently drawn by
the stronger pull of what you really love." --
Jelaluddin Rumi



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HI Wendy,

We had a similar deal years ago when the local SPCA
decided to have a fund raiser and had a pig bar be que!
We help a protest outside after having no response, except
negative ones. Dress up as the animal they are killing,
call the media and hand out Why Meat is NOT green.

Linda

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 2:36 pm
Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups

Hello Everyone,

I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
Water for North Carolina. It has a sister
organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
Today I received an email from the TN organization
about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
through both states) and as part of that
fundraiser,
"homemade barbeque." YUM! Doesn't it make your
mouth water?

Gag.

So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
words!) for any environmental organization to use
meat in a fundraiser.

What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
about this kind of thing? Do you think it makes
the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
them and make them think that we (vegans) are
trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
depends on the organizer and the organization.

It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
can be quiet if it's strategically called for.

I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
not exactly active in the organization itself.

Thanks!
Wendy

"No more advice. Let yourself be silently drawn by
the stronger pull of what you really love." --
Jelaluddin Rumi



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absolutely agree! Speak your truth Wendy!!! How else will anything change? Of course some won't like it, they never do, but you're actually doing them a great favour by allowing them the opportunity to hear this and to evolve. They cannot do that if they are always kept in the comfort zone of ignorance. What they do then is their own responsibility of course but give them the chance to change. Please don't confuse your perfect right to spak out with being impolite - remember, Gandhi upset a lot of people!

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
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HI Wendy,

We had a similar deal years ago when the local SPCA
decided to have a fund raiser and had a pig bar be que!
We help a protest outside after having no response, except
negative ones. Dress up as the animal they are killing,
call the media and hand out Why Meat is NOT green.

Linda

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 2:36 pm
Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups

Hello Everyone,

I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
Water for North Carolina. It has a sister
organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
Today I received an email from the TN organization
about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
through both states) and as part of that
fundraiser,
"homemade barbeque." YUM! Doesn't it make your
mouth water?

Gag.

So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
words!) for any environmental organization to use
meat in a fundraiser.

What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
about this kind of thing? Do you think it makes
the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
them and make them think that we (vegans) are
trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
depends on the organizer and the organization.

It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
can be quiet if it's strategically called for.

I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
not exactly active in the organization itself.

Thanks!
Wendy

"No more advice. Let yourself be silently drawn by
the stronger pull of what you really love." --
Jelaluddin Rumi



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absolutely agree! Speak your truth Wendy!!! How else will anything change? Of course some won't like it, they never do, but you're actually doing them a great favour by allowing them the opportunity to hear this and to evolve. They cannot do that if they are always kept in the comfort zone of ignorance. What they do then is their own responsibility of course but give them the chance to change. Please don't confuse your perfect right to spak out with being impolite - remember, Gandhi upset a lot of people!

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
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http://sudeshkumar.org/default.aspx

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
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HI Wendy,

We had a similar deal years ago when the local SPCA
decided to have a fund raiser and had a pig bar be que!
We help a protest outside after having no response, except
negative ones. Dress up as the animal they are killing,
call the media and hand out Why Meat is NOT green.

Linda

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 2:36 pm
Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups

Hello Everyone,

I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
Water for North Carolina. It has a sister
organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
Today I received an email from the TN organization
about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
through both states) and as part of that
fundraiser,
"homemade barbeque." YUM! Doesn't it make your
mouth water?

Gag.

So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
words!) for any environmental organization to use
meat in a fundraiser.

What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
about this kind of thing? Do you think it makes
the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
them and make them think that we (vegans) are
trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
depends on the organizer and the organization.

It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
can be quiet if it's strategically called for.

I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
not exactly active in the organization itself.

Thanks!
Wendy

"No more advice. Let yourself be silently drawn by
the stronger pull of what you really love." --
Jelaluddin Rumi



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absolutely agree! Speak your truth Wendy!!! How else will anything change? Of course some won't like it, they never do, but you're actually doing them a great favour by allowing them the opportunity to hear this and to evolve. They cannot do that if they are always kept in the comfort zone of ignorance. What they do then is their own responsibility of course but give them the chance to change. Please don't confuse your perfect right to spak out with being impolite - remember, Gandhi upset a lot of people!

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
> The message above was sent to the heart2heart mailing list.
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http://sudeshkumar.org/default.aspx

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
> The message above was sent to the heart2heart mailing list.
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Posted on the Heart2heart mailing list. Go to http://tribetalk.org/mailman/listinfo/heart2heart_tribetalk.org to subscribe. Hi Linda,

How did they respond to that? I can see it a
little better with a group that's already saving
animals -- sometimes, I don't know, I guess I feel
like I'm being the Irritating Vegan (I've honed my
skills...) and wonder whether I'm doing the right
thing -- I mean, I hate keeping quiet (haha) and I
think people ought to be made aware of the
inconsistencies involved, but is there a time when
it's ever too much?

Wendy
> HI Wendy,
>
> We had a similar deal years ago when the local SPCA
> decided to have a fund raiser and had a pig bar be
> que!
> We help a protest outside after having no response,
> except
> negative ones. Dress up as the animal they are
> killing,
> call the media and hand out Why Meat is NOT green.
>
> Linda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 2:36 pm
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina. It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque." YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing? Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice. Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
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HI Wendy,

We had a similar deal years ago when the local SPCA
decided to have a fund raiser and had a pig bar be que!
We help a protest outside after having no response, except
negative ones. Dress up as the animal they are killing,
call the media and hand out Why Meat is NOT green.

Linda

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 2:36 pm
Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups

Hello Everyone,

I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
Water for North Carolina. It has a sister
organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
Today I received an email from the TN organization
about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
through both states) and as part of that
fundraiser,
"homemade barbeque." YUM! Doesn't it make your
mouth water?

Gag.

So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
words!) for any environmental organization to use
meat in a fundraiser.

What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
about this kind of thing? Do you think it makes
the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
them and make them think that we (vegans) are
trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
depends on the organizer and the organization.

It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
can be quiet if it's strategically called for.

I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
not exactly active in the organization itself.

Thanks!
Wendy

"No more advice. Let yourself be silently drawn by
the stronger pull of what you really love." --
Jelaluddin Rumi



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absolutely agree! Speak your truth Wendy!!! How else will anything change? Of course some won't like it, they never do, but you're actually doing them a great favour by allowing them the opportunity to hear this and to evolve. They cannot do that if they are always kept in the comfort zone of ignorance. What they do then is their own responsibility of course but give them the chance to change. Please don't confuse your perfect right to spak out with being impolite - remember, Gandhi upset a lot of people!

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
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http://sudeshkumar.org/default.aspx

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
> The message above was sent to the heart2heart mailing list.
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Posted on the Heart2heart mailing list. Go to http://tribetalk.org/mailman/listinfo/heart2heart_tribetalk.org to subscribe. Hi Linda,

How did they respond to that? I can see it a
little better with a group that's already saving
animals -- sometimes, I don't know, I guess I feel
like I'm being the Irritating Vegan (I've honed my
skills...) and wonder whether I'm doing the right
thing -- I mean, I hate keeping quiet (haha) and I
think people ought to be made aware of the
inconsistencies involved, but is there a time when
it's ever too much?

Wendy
> HI Wendy,
>
> We had a similar deal years ago when the local SPCA
> decided to have a fund raiser and had a pig bar be
> que!
> We help a protest outside after having no response,
> except
> negative ones. Dress up as the animal they are
> killing,
> call the media and hand out Why Meat is NOT green.
>
> Linda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 2:36 pm
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina. It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque." YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing? Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice. Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
> The message above was sent to the heart2heart
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Posted on the Heart2heart mailing list. Go to http://tribetalk.org/mailman/listinfo/heart2heart_tribetalk.org to subscribe. Thank you! Sometimes I feel like I'm the lone
voice in this area of "progressives" who don't care
about animals. The good and the bad of vegans
being spread far and wide -- we're everywhere but
too often we're single voices.

Oh well. I'm just waiting to see if they respond
to my email now. ;)

Wendy
> absolutely agree! Speak your truth Wendy!!! How
> else will anything change? Of course some won't
> like it, they never do, but you're actually doing
> them a great favour by allowing them the
> opportunity to hear this and to evolve. They cannot
> do that if they are always kept in the comfort zone
> of ignorance. What they do then is their own
> responsibility of course but give them the chance
> to change. Please don't confuse your perfect right
> to spak out with being impolite - remember, Gandhi
> upset a lot of people!
>
> --- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo
> <> wrote:
>
>> From: Louie Gedo <>
>> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting
>> to Environmental Groups
>> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'"
>> <>
>> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
>> Hi Wendy,
>>
>> I don't think that there's anything strategically
>> problematic or
>> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of
>> animals
>> to an
>> environmental group. If anything, you may change
>> a heart in
>> the process.
>>
>> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>>
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Louie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: heart2heart-
>> [mailto:heart2heart-]
>> On Behalf Of
>> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
>> Environmental Groups
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I'm an email member of an organization called
>> Clean
>> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
>> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
>> Today I received an email from the TN
>> organization
>> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
>> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
>> through both states) and as part of that
>> fundraiser,
>> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
>> mouth water?
>>
>> Gag.
>>
>> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
>> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
>> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
>> words!) for any environmental organization to use
>> meat in a fundraiser.
>>
>> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
>> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
>> the organization think twice, or does it
>> infuriate
>> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
>> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
>> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>>
>> It's really hard for me to not say something, but
>> I
>> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>>
>> I'm curious what you might do, or may have
>> actually
>> done, in a similar situation, especially if you
>> are
>> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Wendy
>>
>> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn
>> by
>> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
>> Jelaluddin Rumi
>>
>>
>>
>> The message above was sent to the heart2heart
>> mailing list.
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HI Wendy,

We had a similar deal years ago when the local SPCA
decided to have a fund raiser and had a pig bar be que!
We help a protest outside after having no response, except
negative ones. Dress up as the animal they are killing,
call the media and hand out Why Meat is NOT green.

Linda

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 2:36 pm
Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups

Hello Everyone,

I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
Water for North Carolina. It has a sister
organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
Today I received an email from the TN organization
about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
through both states) and as part of that
fundraiser,
"homemade barbeque." YUM! Doesn't it make your
mouth water?

Gag.

So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
words!) for any environmental organization to use
meat in a fundraiser.

What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
about this kind of thing? Do you think it makes
the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
them and make them think that we (vegans) are
trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
depends on the organizer and the organization.

It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
can be quiet if it's strategically called for.

I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
not exactly active in the organization itself.

Thanks!
Wendy

"No more advice. Let yourself be silently drawn by
the stronger pull of what you really love." --
Jelaluddin Rumi



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absolutely agree! Speak your truth Wendy!!! How else will anything change? Of course some won't like it, they never do, but you're actually doing them a great favour by allowing them the opportunity to hear this and to evolve. They cannot do that if they are always kept in the comfort zone of ignorance. What they do then is their own responsibility of course but give them the chance to change. Please don't confuse your perfect right to spak out with being impolite - remember, Gandhi upset a lot of people!

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
> The message above was sent to the heart2heart mailing list.
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Posted on the Heart2heart mailing list. Go to http://tribetalk.org/mailman/listinfo/heart2heart_tribetalk.org to subscribe. lovely video with a message for you Wendy - 'I will speak out even if my voice trembles as I do it'

http://sudeshkumar.org/default.aspx

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
> The message above was sent to the heart2heart mailing list.
> Note that if you
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Posted on the Heart2heart mailing list. Go to http://tribetalk.org/mailman/listinfo/heart2heart_tribetalk.org to subscribe. Hi Linda,

How did they respond to that? I can see it a
little better with a group that's already saving
animals -- sometimes, I don't know, I guess I feel
like I'm being the Irritating Vegan (I've honed my
skills...) and wonder whether I'm doing the right
thing -- I mean, I hate keeping quiet (haha) and I
think people ought to be made aware of the
inconsistencies involved, but is there a time when
it's ever too much?

Wendy
> HI Wendy,
>
> We had a similar deal years ago when the local SPCA
> decided to have a fund raiser and had a pig bar be
> que!
> We help a protest outside after having no response,
> except
> negative ones. Dress up as the animal they are
> killing,
> call the media and hand out Why Meat is NOT green.
>
> Linda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 2:36 pm
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina. It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque." YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing? Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice. Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
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Posted on the Heart2heart mailing list. Go to http://tribetalk.org/mailman/listinfo/heart2heart_tribetalk.org to subscribe. Thank you! Sometimes I feel like I'm the lone
voice in this area of "progressives" who don't care
about animals. The good and the bad of vegans
being spread far and wide -- we're everywhere but
too often we're single voices.

Oh well. I'm just waiting to see if they respond
to my email now. ;)

Wendy
> absolutely agree! Speak your truth Wendy!!! How
> else will anything change? Of course some won't
> like it, they never do, but you're actually doing
> them a great favour by allowing them the
> opportunity to hear this and to evolve. They cannot
> do that if they are always kept in the comfort zone
> of ignorance. What they do then is their own
> responsibility of course but give them the chance
> to change. Please don't confuse your perfect right
> to spak out with being impolite - remember, Gandhi
> upset a lot of people!
>
> --- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo
> <> wrote:
>
>> From: Louie Gedo <>
>> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting
>> to Environmental Groups
>> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'"
>> <>
>> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
>> Hi Wendy,
>>
>> I don't think that there's anything strategically
>> problematic or
>> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of
>> animals
>> to an
>> environmental group. If anything, you may change
>> a heart in
>> the process.
>>
>> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>>
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Louie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: heart2heart-
>> [mailto:heart2heart-]
>> On Behalf Of
>> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
>> Environmental Groups
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I'm an email member of an organization called
>> Clean
>> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
>> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
>> Today I received an email from the TN
>> organization
>> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
>> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
>> through both states) and as part of that
>> fundraiser,
>> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
>> mouth water?
>>
>> Gag.
>>
>> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
>> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
>> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
>> words!) for any environmental organization to use
>> meat in a fundraiser.
>>
>> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
>> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
>> the organization think twice, or does it
>> infuriate
>> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
>> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
>> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>>
>> It's really hard for me to not say something, but
>> I
>> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>>
>> I'm curious what you might do, or may have
>> actually
>> done, in a similar situation, especially if you
>> are
>> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Wendy
>>
>> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn
>> by
>> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
>> Jelaluddin Rumi
>>
>>
>>
>> The message above was sent to the heart2heart
>> mailing list.
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(kind of ironic that it's MfA considering the
recent video from Tribe of Heart but I do
appreciate the message. It's good to be reminded.)

:)

> lovely video with a message for you Wendy - 'I will
> speak out even if my voice trembles as I do it'
>
> http://sudeshkumar.org/default.aspx
>
> --- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo
> <> wrote:
>
>> From: Louie Gedo <>
>> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting
>> to Environmental Groups
>> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'"
>> <>
>> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
>> Hi Wendy,
>>
>> I don't think that there's anything strategically
>> problematic or
>> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of
>> animals
>> to an
>> environmental group. If anything, you may change
>> a heart in
>> the process.
>>
>> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>>
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Louie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: heart2heart-
>> [mailto:heart2heart-]
>> On Behalf Of
>> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
>> Environmental Groups
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I'm an email member of an organization called
>> Clean
>> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
>> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
>> Today I received an email from the TN
>> organization
>> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
>> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
>> through both states) and as part of that
>> fundraiser,
>> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
>> mouth water?
>>
>> Gag.
>>
>> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
>> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
>> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
>> words!) for any environmental organization to use
>> meat in a fundraiser.
>>
>> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
>> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
>> the organization think twice, or does it
>> infuriate
>> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
>> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
>> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>>
>> It's really hard for me to not say something, but
>> I
>> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>>
>> I'm curious what you might do, or may have
>> actually
>> done, in a similar situation, especially if you
>> are
>> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Wendy
>>
>> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn
>> by
>> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
>> Jelaluddin Rumi
>>
>>
>>
>> The message above was sent to the heart2heart
>> mailing list.
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>> press the REPLY button of your email program,
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HI Wendy,

We had a similar deal years ago when the local SPCA
decided to have a fund raiser and had a pig bar be que!
We help a protest outside after having no response, except
negative ones. Dress up as the animal they are killing,
call the media and hand out Why Meat is NOT green.

Linda

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 2:36 pm
Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups

Hello Everyone,

I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
Water for North Carolina. It has a sister
organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
Today I received an email from the TN organization
about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
through both states) and as part of that
fundraiser,
"homemade barbeque." YUM! Doesn't it make your
mouth water?

Gag.

So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
words!) for any environmental organization to use
meat in a fundraiser.

What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
about this kind of thing? Do you think it makes
the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
them and make them think that we (vegans) are
trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
depends on the organizer and the organization.

It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
can be quiet if it's strategically called for.

I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
not exactly active in the organization itself.

Thanks!
Wendy

"No more advice. Let yourself be silently drawn by
the stronger pull of what you really love." --
Jelaluddin Rumi



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absolutely agree! Speak your truth Wendy!!! How else will anything change? Of course some won't like it, they never do, but you're actually doing them a great favour by allowing them the opportunity to hear this and to evolve. They cannot do that if they are always kept in the comfort zone of ignorance. What they do then is their own responsibility of course but give them the chance to change. Please don't confuse your perfect right to spak out with being impolite - remember, Gandhi upset a lot of people!

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
> The message above was sent to the heart2heart mailing list.
> Note that if you
> press the REPLY button of your email program, your reply to
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Posted on the Heart2heart mailing list. Go to http://tribetalk.org/mailman/listinfo/heart2heart_tribetalk.org to subscribe. lovely video with a message for you Wendy - 'I will speak out even if my voice trembles as I do it'

http://sudeshkumar.org/default.aspx

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
> The message above was sent to the heart2heart mailing list.
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Posted on the Heart2heart mailing list. Go to http://tribetalk.org/mailman/listinfo/heart2heart_tribetalk.org to subscribe. Hi Linda,

How did they respond to that? I can see it a
little better with a group that's already saving
animals -- sometimes, I don't know, I guess I feel
like I'm being the Irritating Vegan (I've honed my
skills...) and wonder whether I'm doing the right
thing -- I mean, I hate keeping quiet (haha) and I
think people ought to be made aware of the
inconsistencies involved, but is there a time when
it's ever too much?

Wendy
> HI Wendy,
>
> We had a similar deal years ago when the local SPCA
> decided to have a fund raiser and had a pig bar be
> que!
> We help a protest outside after having no response,
> except
> negative ones. Dress up as the animal they are
> killing,
> call the media and hand out Why Meat is NOT green.
>
> Linda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 2:36 pm
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina. It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque." YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing? Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice. Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
> The message above was sent to the heart2heart
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Posted on the Heart2heart mailing list. Go to http://tribetalk.org/mailman/listinfo/heart2heart_tribetalk.org to subscribe. Thank you! Sometimes I feel like I'm the lone
voice in this area of "progressives" who don't care
about animals. The good and the bad of vegans
being spread far and wide -- we're everywhere but
too often we're single voices.

Oh well. I'm just waiting to see if they respond
to my email now. ;)

Wendy
> absolutely agree! Speak your truth Wendy!!! How
> else will anything change? Of course some won't
> like it, they never do, but you're actually doing
> them a great favour by allowing them the
> opportunity to hear this and to evolve. They cannot
> do that if they are always kept in the comfort zone
> of ignorance. What they do then is their own
> responsibility of course but give them the chance
> to change. Please don't confuse your perfect right
> to spak out with being impolite - remember, Gandhi
> upset a lot of people!
>
> --- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo
> <> wrote:
>
>> From: Louie Gedo <>
>> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting
>> to Environmental Groups
>> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'"
>> <>
>> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
>> Hi Wendy,
>>
>> I don't think that there's anything strategically
>> problematic or
>> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of
>> animals
>> to an
>> environmental group. If anything, you may change
>> a heart in
>> the process.
>>
>> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>>
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Louie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: heart2heart-
>> [mailto:heart2heart-]
>> On Behalf Of
>> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
>> Environmental Groups
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I'm an email member of an organization called
>> Clean
>> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
>> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
>> Today I received an email from the TN
>> organization
>> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
>> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
>> through both states) and as part of that
>> fundraiser,
>> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
>> mouth water?
>>
>> Gag.
>>
>> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
>> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
>> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
>> words!) for any environmental organization to use
>> meat in a fundraiser.
>>
>> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
>> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
>> the organization think twice, or does it
>> infuriate
>> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
>> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
>> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>>
>> It's really hard for me to not say something, but
>> I
>> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>>
>> I'm curious what you might do, or may have
>> actually
>> done, in a similar situation, especially if you
>> are
>> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Wendy
>>
>> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn
>> by
>> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
>> Jelaluddin Rumi
>>
>>
>>
>> The message above was sent to the heart2heart
>> mailing list.
>> Note that if you
>> press the REPLY button of your email program,
>> your reply to
>> this email will
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>> wish to reply
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>> blank email. Thanks!
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>> _______________________________________________
___________________________________________________

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(kind of ironic that it's MfA considering the
recent video from Tribe of Heart but I do
appreciate the message. It's good to be reminded.)

:)

> lovely video with a message for you Wendy - 'I will
> speak out even if my voice trembles as I do it'
>
> http://sudeshkumar.org/default.aspx
>
> --- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo
> <> wrote:
>
>> From: Louie Gedo <>
>> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting
>> to Environmental Groups
>> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'"
>> <>
>> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
>> Hi Wendy,
>>
>> I don't think that there's anything strategically
>> problematic or
>> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of
>> animals
>> to an
>> environmental group. If anything, you may change
>> a heart in
>> the process.
>>
>> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>>
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Louie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: heart2heart-
>> [mailto:heart2heart-]
>> On Behalf Of
>> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
>> Environmental Groups
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I'm an email member of an organization called
>> Clean
>> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
>> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
>> Today I received an email from the TN
>> organization
>> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
>> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
>> through both states) and as part of that
>> fundraiser,
>> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
>> mouth water?
>>
>> Gag.
>>
>> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
>> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
>> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
>> words!) for any environmental organization to use
>> meat in a fundraiser.
>>
>> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
>> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
>> the organization think twice, or does it
>> infuriate
>> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
>> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
>> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>>
>> It's really hard for me to not say something, but
>> I
>> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>>
>> I'm curious what you might do, or may have
>> actually
>> done, in a similar situation, especially if you
>> are
>> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Wendy
>>
>> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn
>> by
>> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
>> Jelaluddin Rumi
>>
>>
>>
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-----Original Message-----
[mailto:heart2heart-] On Behalf Of Alison Banville
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups

absolutely agree! Speak your truth Wendy!!! How else will anything change?
Of course some won't like it, they never do, but you're actually doing them
a great favour by allowing them the opportunity to hear this and to evolve.
They cannot do that if they are always kept in the comfort zone of
ignorance. What they do then is their own responsibility of course but give
them the chance to change. Please don't confuse your perfect right to spak
out with being impolite - remember, Gandhi upset a lot of people!

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
> The message above was sent to the heart2heart mailing list.
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HI Wendy,

We had a similar deal years ago when the local SPCA
decided to have a fund raiser and had a pig bar be que!
We help a protest outside after having no response, except
negative ones. Dress up as the animal they are killing,
call the media and hand out Why Meat is NOT green.

Linda

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 2:36 pm
Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups

Hello Everyone,

I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
Water for North Carolina. It has a sister
organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
Today I received an email from the TN organization
about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
through both states) and as part of that
fundraiser,
"homemade barbeque." YUM! Doesn't it make your
mouth water?

Gag.

So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
words!) for any environmental organization to use
meat in a fundraiser.

What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
about this kind of thing? Do you think it makes
the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
them and make them think that we (vegans) are
trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
depends on the organizer and the organization.

It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
can be quiet if it's strategically called for.

I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
not exactly active in the organization itself.

Thanks!
Wendy

"No more advice. Let yourself be silently drawn by
the stronger pull of what you really love." --
Jelaluddin Rumi



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absolutely agree! Speak your truth Wendy!!! How else will anything change? Of course some won't like it, they never do, but you're actually doing them a great favour by allowing them the opportunity to hear this and to evolve. They cannot do that if they are always kept in the comfort zone of ignorance. What they do then is their own responsibility of course but give them the chance to change. Please don't confuse your perfect right to spak out with being impolite - remember, Gandhi upset a lot of people!

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
> The message above was sent to the heart2heart mailing list.
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Posted on the Heart2heart mailing list. Go to http://tribetalk.org/mailman/listinfo/heart2heart_tribetalk.org to subscribe. lovely video with a message for you Wendy - 'I will speak out even if my voice trembles as I do it'

http://sudeshkumar.org/default.aspx

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
> The message above was sent to the heart2heart mailing list.
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Posted on the Heart2heart mailing list. Go to http://tribetalk.org/mailman/listinfo/heart2heart_tribetalk.org to subscribe. Hi Linda,

How did they respond to that? I can see it a
little better with a group that's already saving
animals -- sometimes, I don't know, I guess I feel
like I'm being the Irritating Vegan (I've honed my
skills...) and wonder whether I'm doing the right
thing -- I mean, I hate keeping quiet (haha) and I
think people ought to be made aware of the
inconsistencies involved, but is there a time when
it's ever too much?

Wendy
> HI Wendy,
>
> We had a similar deal years ago when the local SPCA
> decided to have a fund raiser and had a pig bar be
> que!
> We help a protest outside after having no response,
> except
> negative ones. Dress up as the animal they are
> killing,
> call the media and hand out Why Meat is NOT green.
>
> Linda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 2:36 pm
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina. It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque." YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing? Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice. Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
> The message above was sent to the heart2heart
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Posted on the Heart2heart mailing list. Go to http://tribetalk.org/mailman/listinfo/heart2heart_tribetalk.org to subscribe. Thank you! Sometimes I feel like I'm the lone
voice in this area of "progressives" who don't care
about animals. The good and the bad of vegans
being spread far and wide -- we're everywhere but
too often we're single voices.

Oh well. I'm just waiting to see if they respond
to my email now. ;)

Wendy
> absolutely agree! Speak your truth Wendy!!! How
> else will anything change? Of course some won't
> like it, they never do, but you're actually doing
> them a great favour by allowing them the
> opportunity to hear this and to evolve. They cannot
> do that if they are always kept in the comfort zone
> of ignorance. What they do then is their own
> responsibility of course but give them the chance
> to change. Please don't confuse your perfect right
> to spak out with being impolite - remember, Gandhi
> upset a lot of people!
>
> --- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo
> <> wrote:
>
>> From: Louie Gedo <>
>> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting
>> to Environmental Groups
>> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'"
>> <>
>> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
>> Hi Wendy,
>>
>> I don't think that there's anything strategically
>> problematic or
>> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of
>> animals
>> to an
>> environmental group. If anything, you may change
>> a heart in
>> the process.
>>
>> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>>
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Louie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: heart2heart-
>> [mailto:heart2heart-]
>> On Behalf Of
>> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
>> Environmental Groups
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I'm an email member of an organization called
>> Clean
>> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
>> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
>> Today I received an email from the TN
>> organization
>> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
>> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
>> through both states) and as part of that
>> fundraiser,
>> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
>> mouth water?
>>
>> Gag.
>>
>> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
>> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
>> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
>> words!) for any environmental organization to use
>> meat in a fundraiser.
>>
>> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
>> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
>> the organization think twice, or does it
>> infuriate
>> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
>> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
>> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>>
>> It's really hard for me to not say something, but
>> I
>> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>>
>> I'm curious what you might do, or may have
>> actually
>> done, in a similar situation, especially if you
>> are
>> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Wendy
>>
>> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn
>> by
>> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
>> Jelaluddin Rumi
>>
>>
>>
>> The message above was sent to the heart2heart
>> mailing list.
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>> press the REPLY button of your email program,
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(kind of ironic that it's MfA considering the
recent video from Tribe of Heart but I do
appreciate the message. It's good to be reminded.)

:)

> lovely video with a message for you Wendy - 'I will
> speak out even if my voice trembles as I do it'
>
> http://sudeshkumar.org/default.aspx
>
> --- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo
> <> wrote:
>
>> From: Louie Gedo <>
>> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting
>> to Environmental Groups
>> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'"
>> <>
>> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
>> Hi Wendy,
>>
>> I don't think that there's anything strategically
>> problematic or
>> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of
>> animals
>> to an
>> environmental group. If anything, you may change
>> a heart in
>> the process.
>>
>> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>>
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Louie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: heart2heart-
>> [mailto:heart2heart-]
>> On Behalf Of
>> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
>> Environmental Groups
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I'm an email member of an organization called
>> Clean
>> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
>> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
>> Today I received an email from the TN
>> organization
>> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
>> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
>> through both states) and as part of that
>> fundraiser,
>> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
>> mouth water?
>>
>> Gag.
>>
>> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
>> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
>> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
>> words!) for any environmental organization to use
>> meat in a fundraiser.
>>
>> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
>> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
>> the organization think twice, or does it
>> infuriate
>> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
>> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
>> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>>
>> It's really hard for me to not say something, but
>> I
>> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>>
>> I'm curious what you might do, or may have
>> actually
>> done, in a similar situation, especially if you
>> are
>> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Wendy
>>
>> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn
>> by
>> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
>> Jelaluddin Rumi
>>
>>
>>
>> The message above was sent to the heart2heart
>> mailing list.
>> Note that if you
>> press the REPLY button of your email program,
>> your reply to
>> this email will
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>> list. If you
>> wish to reply
>> privately to the person who posted this message,
>> note their
>> email address
>> above and type it by hand into to the TO: box of
>> a new
>> blank email. Thanks!
>>
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>> list
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>>
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
___________________________________________________

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-----Original Message-----
[mailto:heart2heart-] On Behalf Of Alison Banville
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups

absolutely agree! Speak your truth Wendy!!! How else will anything change?
Of course some won't like it, they never do, but you're actually doing them
a great favour by allowing them the opportunity to hear this and to evolve.
They cannot do that if they are always kept in the comfort zone of
ignorance. What they do then is their own responsibility of course but give
them the chance to change. Please don't confuse your perfect right to spak
out with being impolite - remember, Gandhi upset a lot of people!

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
> The message above was sent to the heart2heart mailing list.
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Catchy PSA but a tad lengthy




-----Original Message-----
[mailto:heart2heart-] On Behalf Of Alison Banville
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups

lovely video with a message for you Wendy - 'I will speak out even if my
voice trembles as I do it'

http://sudeshkumar.org/default.aspx

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
> The message above was sent to the heart2heart mailing list.
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HI Wendy,

We had a similar deal years ago when the local SPCA
decided to have a fund raiser and had a pig bar be que!
We help a protest outside after having no response, except
negative ones. Dress up as the animal they are killing,
call the media and hand out Why Meat is NOT green.

Linda

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 2:36 pm
Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups

Hello Everyone,

I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
Water for North Carolina. It has a sister
organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
Today I received an email from the TN organization
about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
through both states) and as part of that
fundraiser,
"homemade barbeque." YUM! Doesn't it make your
mouth water?

Gag.

So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
words!) for any environmental organization to use
meat in a fundraiser.

What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
about this kind of thing? Do you think it makes
the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
them and make them think that we (vegans) are
trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
depends on the organizer and the organization.

It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
can be quiet if it's strategically called for.

I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
not exactly active in the organization itself.

Thanks!
Wendy

"No more advice. Let yourself be silently drawn by
the stronger pull of what you really love." --
Jelaluddin Rumi



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absolutely agree! Speak your truth Wendy!!! How else will anything change? Of course some won't like it, they never do, but you're actually doing them a great favour by allowing them the opportunity to hear this and to evolve. They cannot do that if they are always kept in the comfort zone of ignorance. What they do then is their own responsibility of course but give them the chance to change. Please don't confuse your perfect right to spak out with being impolite - remember, Gandhi upset a lot of people!

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
> The message above was sent to the heart2heart mailing list.
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Posted on the Heart2heart mailing list. Go to http://tribetalk.org/mailman/listinfo/heart2heart_tribetalk.org to subscribe. lovely video with a message for you Wendy - 'I will speak out even if my voice trembles as I do it'

http://sudeshkumar.org/default.aspx

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
> The message above was sent to the heart2heart mailing list.
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Posted on the Heart2heart mailing list. Go to http://tribetalk.org/mailman/listinfo/heart2heart_tribetalk.org to subscribe. Hi Linda,

How did they respond to that? I can see it a
little better with a group that's already saving
animals -- sometimes, I don't know, I guess I feel
like I'm being the Irritating Vegan (I've honed my
skills...) and wonder whether I'm doing the right
thing -- I mean, I hate keeping quiet (haha) and I
think people ought to be made aware of the
inconsistencies involved, but is there a time when
it's ever too much?

Wendy
> HI Wendy,
>
> We had a similar deal years ago when the local SPCA
> decided to have a fund raiser and had a pig bar be
> que!
> We help a protest outside after having no response,
> except
> negative ones. Dress up as the animal they are
> killing,
> call the media and hand out Why Meat is NOT green.
>
> Linda
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Mon, Jul 26, 2010 2:36 pm
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina. It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque." YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing? Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice. Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
> The message above was sent to the heart2heart
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Posted on the Heart2heart mailing list. Go to http://tribetalk.org/mailman/listinfo/heart2heart_tribetalk.org to subscribe. Thank you! Sometimes I feel like I'm the lone
voice in this area of "progressives" who don't care
about animals. The good and the bad of vegans
being spread far and wide -- we're everywhere but
too often we're single voices.

Oh well. I'm just waiting to see if they respond
to my email now. ;)

Wendy
> absolutely agree! Speak your truth Wendy!!! How
> else will anything change? Of course some won't
> like it, they never do, but you're actually doing
> them a great favour by allowing them the
> opportunity to hear this and to evolve. They cannot
> do that if they are always kept in the comfort zone
> of ignorance. What they do then is their own
> responsibility of course but give them the chance
> to change. Please don't confuse your perfect right
> to spak out with being impolite - remember, Gandhi
> upset a lot of people!
>
> --- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo
> <> wrote:
>
>> From: Louie Gedo <>
>> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting
>> to Environmental Groups
>> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'"
>> <>
>> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
>> Hi Wendy,
>>
>> I don't think that there's anything strategically
>> problematic or
>> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of
>> animals
>> to an
>> environmental group. If anything, you may change
>> a heart in
>> the process.
>>
>> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>>
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Louie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: heart2heart-
>> [mailto:heart2heart-]
>> On Behalf Of
>> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
>> Environmental Groups
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I'm an email member of an organization called
>> Clean
>> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
>> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
>> Today I received an email from the TN
>> organization
>> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
>> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
>> through both states) and as part of that
>> fundraiser,
>> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
>> mouth water?
>>
>> Gag.
>>
>> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
>> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
>> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
>> words!) for any environmental organization to use
>> meat in a fundraiser.
>>
>> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
>> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
>> the organization think twice, or does it
>> infuriate
>> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
>> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
>> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>>
>> It's really hard for me to not say something, but
>> I
>> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>>
>> I'm curious what you might do, or may have
>> actually
>> done, in a similar situation, especially if you
>> are
>> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Wendy
>>
>> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn
>> by
>> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
>> Jelaluddin Rumi
>>
>>
>>
>> The message above was sent to the heart2heart
>> mailing list.
>> Note that if you
>> press the REPLY button of your email program,
>> your reply to
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(kind of ironic that it's MfA considering the
recent video from Tribe of Heart but I do
appreciate the message. It's good to be reminded.)

:)

> lovely video with a message for you Wendy - 'I will
> speak out even if my voice trembles as I do it'
>
> http://sudeshkumar.org/default.aspx
>
> --- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo
> <> wrote:
>
>> From: Louie Gedo <>
>> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting
>> to Environmental Groups
>> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'"
>> <>
>> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
>> Hi Wendy,
>>
>> I don't think that there's anything strategically
>> problematic or
>> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of
>> animals
>> to an
>> environmental group. If anything, you may change
>> a heart in
>> the process.
>>
>> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>>
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Louie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: heart2heart-
>> [mailto:heart2heart-]
>> On Behalf Of
>> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
>> Environmental Groups
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I'm an email member of an organization called
>> Clean
>> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
>> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
>> Today I received an email from the TN
>> organization
>> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
>> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
>> through both states) and as part of that
>> fundraiser,
>> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
>> mouth water?
>>
>> Gag.
>>
>> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
>> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
>> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
>> words!) for any environmental organization to use
>> meat in a fundraiser.
>>
>> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
>> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
>> the organization think twice, or does it
>> infuriate
>> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
>> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
>> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>>
>> It's really hard for me to not say something, but
>> I
>> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>>
>> I'm curious what you might do, or may have
>> actually
>> done, in a similar situation, especially if you
>> are
>> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Wendy
>>
>> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn
>> by
>> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
>> Jelaluddin Rumi
>>
>>
>>
>> The message above was sent to the heart2heart
>> mailing list.
>> Note that if you
>> press the REPLY button of your email program,
>> your reply to
>> this email will
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>> list. If you
>> wish to reply
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>> note their
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>> above and type it by hand into to the TO: box of
>> a new
>> blank email. Thanks!
>>
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>> list
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>>
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
___________________________________________________

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-----Original Message-----
[mailto:heart2heart-] On Behalf Of Alison Banville
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups

absolutely agree! Speak your truth Wendy!!! How else will anything change?
Of course some won't like it, they never do, but you're actually doing them
a great favour by allowing them the opportunity to hear this and to evolve.
They cannot do that if they are always kept in the comfort zone of
ignorance. What they do then is their own responsibility of course but give
them the chance to change. Please don't confuse your perfect right to spak
out with being impolite - remember, Gandhi upset a lot of people!

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
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Catchy PSA but a tad lengthy




-----Original Message-----
[mailto:heart2heart-] On Behalf Of Alison Banville
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups

lovely video with a message for you Wendy - 'I will speak out even if my
voice trembles as I do it'

http://sudeshkumar.org/default.aspx

--- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo <> wrote:

> From: Louie Gedo <>
> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to Environmental Groups
> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'" <>
> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
> Hi Wendy,
>
> I don't think that there's anything strategically
> problematic or
> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of animals
> to an
> environmental group. If anything, you may change a heart in
> the process.
>
> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Louie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: heart2heart-
> [mailto:heart2heart-]
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
> To:
> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
> Environmental Groups
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm an email member of an organization called Clean
> Water for North Carolina.  It has a sister
> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
> Today I received an email from the TN organization
> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
> through both states) and as part of that
> fundraiser,
> "homemade barbeque."  YUM! Doesn't it make your
> mouth water?
>
> Gag.
>
> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
> words!) for any environmental organization to use
> meat in a fundraiser.
>
> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
> about this kind of thing?  Do you think it makes
> the organization think twice, or does it infuriate
> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>
> It's really hard for me to not say something, but I
> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>
> I'm curious what you might do, or may have actually
> done, in a similar situation, especially if you are
> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>
> Thanks!
> Wendy
>
> "No more advice.  Let yourself be silently drawn by
> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
> Jelaluddin Rumi
>
>
>
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On 7/27/10 1:59 PM, wrote:
> Thanks Alison!
> (kind of ironic that it's MfA considering the
> recent video from Tribe of Heart but I do
> appreciate the message. It's good to be reminded.)
>
> :)
>
>
>> lovely video with a message for you Wendy - 'I will
>> speak out even if my voice trembles as I do it'
>>
>> http://sudeshkumar.org/default.aspx
>>
>> --- On Mon, 26/7/10, Louie Gedo
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> From: Louie Gedo<>
>>> Subject: Re: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting
>>> to Environmental Groups
>>> To: "'Tribe of Heart's email discussion list'"
>>> <>
>>> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 23:05
>>> Hi Wendy,
>>>
>>> I don't think that there's anything strategically
>>> problematic or
>>> inappropriate to voice your position on behalf of
>>> animals
>>> to an
>>> environmental group. If anything, you may change
>>> a heart in
>>> the process.
>>>
>>> Thank you for raising the issue with them.
>>>
>>>
>>> Warmly,
>>> Louie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: heart2heart-
>>> [mailto:heart2heart-]
>>> On Behalf Of
>>> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:05 PM
>>> To:
>>> Subject: [heart2heart] Thoughts on Commenting to
>>> Environmental Groups
>>>
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>> I'm an email member of an organization called
>>> Clean
>>> Water for North Carolina. It has a sister
>>> organization just across the hills in Tennessee.
>>> Today I received an email from the TN
>>> organization
>>> about fundraising for a lawsuit they're going to
>>> file against polluters of the Pigeon River (flows
>>> through both states) and as part of that
>>> fundraiser,
>>> "homemade barbeque." YUM! Doesn't it make your
>>> mouth water?
>>>
>>> Gag.
>>>
>>> So I sent an email to the organizer and let her
>>> know, as nicely as I could, what I think of that,
>>> and how it seems crazy (I didn't use those exact
>>> words!) for any environmental organization to use
>>> meat in a fundraiser.
>>>
>>> What do you guys think, strategically speaking,
>>> about this kind of thing? Do you think it makes
>>> the organization think twice, or does it
>>> infuriate
>>> them and make them think that we (vegans) are
>>> trying to control what they eat? I suppose it
>>> depends on the organizer and the organization.
>>>
>>> It's really hard for me to not say something, but
>>> I
>>> can be quiet if it's strategically called for.
>>>
>>> I'm curious what you might do, or may have
>>> actually
>>> done, in a similar situation, especially if you
>>> are
>>> not exactly active in the organization itself.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Wendy
>>>
>>> "No more advice. Let yourself be silently drawn
>>> by
>>> the stronger pull of what you really love." --
>>> Jelaluddin Rumi
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> mailing list.
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>>> press the REPLY button of your email program,
>>> your reply to
>>> this email will
>>> be sent to ALL SUBSCRIBERS of the heart2heart
>>> list. If you
>>> wish to reply
>>> privately to the person who posted this message,
>>> note their
>>> email address
>>> above and type it by hand into to the TO: box of
>>> a new
>>> blank email. Thanks!
>>>
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>>> list
>>> membership options, visit
>>>
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>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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