http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-My-Back-Peter-Gabriel/dp/B0035J6TA8/ref=cm
_cr-mr-title

I gave this a 5 Star review, called it my "disc of the year". It's
really a fantastic al****....Eno I love so very much and often will put
on some of his ambient stuff to lull me to sleep at night.

I think that GG would be very fascinated with people like Eno who
pioneered taking musical sounds apart and re-assembling into something
entirely new, almost familiar but yet often hauntingly different
sounds.....

regards,

Fred Houpt


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http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-My-Back-Peter-Gabriel/dp/B0035J6TA8/ref=cm
_cr-mr-title

I gave this a 5 Star review, called it my "disc of the year". It's
really a fantastic al****....Eno I love so very much and often will put
on some of his ambient stuff to lull me to sleep at night.

I think that GG would be very fascinated with people like Eno who
pioneered taking musical sounds apart and re-assembling into something
entirely new, almost familiar but yet often hauntingly different
sounds.....

regards,

Fred Houpt


________________________________
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g'day all

The way we listen to music has indeed seen some radical changes since GG's passing. The main reasons are the music itself and technology that is way beyond what GG had envisioned in his essays on technology and that one about the grass being greener in the outtakes.
These days you can "compose" your very own fave Mahler Sy, all you need to do is create a new Playlist in iTunes and the recordings you need. You don't even have to leave the house to buy the recordings. Now that's summet, eh ? Of course we all know that, maybe even take it for granted. But GG never did, he never even saw the advent of the Walkman or mix-tapes, let alone remixes or mash-ups or this ReCompose thing. His ideas (wallpaper or environmental music, infinite choice wherever you are, whatever you want) have come true, bloody crying shame he never got to see the results. He'd be pleased I reckon, maybe doing the odd live-stream or podcast every now and then or blogging about current developments in music and technology. Both the ideas of GG and Marshall McLuhan are somehow frozen in time, we are the lucky ones who have to deal with the effects.

Fred, right about Brian Eno. Music For Airports is a nice one to take a nap to. btw those of you who have no idea what I am talking about and still use older versions of Windows will hear his "music" every day...

Oh, one more thing. GG claimed that if you don't have anything to add to a musical piece then you better shut up, how come people like Brian Eno take music further and Keith Jarrett's recording of the GB's is so utterly boring ?

Pat


Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-My-Back-Peter-Gabriel/dp/B0035J6TA8/ref=cm_cr-mr-title

I gave this a 5 Star review, called it my "disc of the year". It's really a fantastic al****....Eno I love so very much and often will put on some of his ambient stuff to lull me to sleep at night.

I think that GG would be very fascinated with people like Eno who pioneered taking musical sounds apart and re-assembling into something entirely new, almost familiar but yet often hauntingly different sounds.....

regards,

Fred Houpt




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-My-Back-Peter-Gabriel/dp/B0035J6TA8/ref=cm
_cr-mr-title

I gave this a 5 Star review, called it my "disc of the year". It's
really a fantastic al****....Eno I love so very much and often will put
on some of his ambient stuff to lull me to sleep at night.

I think that GG would be very fascinated with people like Eno who
pioneered taking musical sounds apart and re-assembling into something
entirely new, almost familiar but yet often hauntingly different
sounds.....

regards,

Fred Houpt


________________________________
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g'day all

The way we listen to music has indeed seen some radical changes since GG's passing. The main reasons are the music itself and technology that is way beyond what GG had envisioned in his essays on technology and that one about the grass being greener in the outtakes.
These days you can "compose" your very own fave Mahler Sy, all you need to do is create a new Playlist in iTunes and the recordings you need. You don't even have to leave the house to buy the recordings. Now that's summet, eh ? Of course we all know that, maybe even take it for granted. But GG never did, he never even saw the advent of the Walkman or mix-tapes, let alone remixes or mash-ups or this ReCompose thing. His ideas (wallpaper or environmental music, infinite choice wherever you are, whatever you want) have come true, bloody crying shame he never got to see the results. He'd be pleased I reckon, maybe doing the odd live-stream or podcast every now and then or blogging about current developments in music and technology. Both the ideas of GG and Marshall McLuhan are somehow frozen in time, we are the lucky ones who have to deal with the effects.

Fred, right about Brian Eno. Music For Airports is a nice one to take a nap to. btw those of you who have no idea what I am talking about and still use older versions of Windows will hear his "music" every day...

Oh, one more thing. GG claimed that if you don't have anything to add to a musical piece then you better shut up, how come people like Brian Eno take music further and Keith Jarrett's recording of the GB's is so utterly boring ?

Pat


Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-My-Back-Peter-Gabriel/dp/B0035J6TA8/ref=cm_cr-mr-title

I gave this a 5 Star review, called it my "disc of the year". It's really a fantastic al****....Eno I love so very much and often will put on some of his ambient stuff to lull me to sleep at night.

I think that GG would be very fascinated with people like Eno who pioneered taking musical sounds apart and re-assembling into something entirely new, almost familiar but yet often hauntingly different sounds.....

regards,

Fred Houpt




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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ciao, salut, allegra, hoi --

I've heard the Jarrett GV -- once -- but I'm most familiar with his early 60's-70s tsunami of acclaim for his free-form concert-length improvisations. This work achieved Heights of Boredom I'd never imagined existed.

And because he was composing it on the spot, while-u-listen, you had no way of knowing what his intentions were or if he was hitting the right notes. By definition, a note he played could not be wrong.

In those days he struck me as a sort of black-caped Vaudeville Doctor Mesmero, very good at getting the message out that he was Amazing, Astonishing, Unique, Supercallifragialisticexpialidocious -- and Highly Spritual, too. Keyboard music would never be the same.

Bob / Massachusetts USA



News, Global Warming, Mozart, Sports, Intergalactic Travel, sausages, VOLCANOS!!! opera, PIRATES!!! Filth in Extinct Lingos, Really Big Integers & BOINC.
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----- Original Message -----
From: pzumst
To: Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould.
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


g'day all




Oh, one more thing. GG claimed that if you don't have anything to add to a musical piece then you better shut up, how come people like Brian Eno take music further and Keith Jarrett's recording of the GB's is so utterly boring ?

Pat

http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-My-Back-Peter-Gabriel/dp/B0035J6TA8/ref=cm
_cr-mr-title

I gave this a 5 Star review, called it my "disc of the year". It's
really a fantastic al****....Eno I love so very much and often will put
on some of his ambient stuff to lull me to sleep at night.

I think that GG would be very fascinated with people like Eno who
pioneered taking musical sounds apart and re-assembling into something
entirely new, almost familiar but yet often hauntingly different
sounds.....

regards,

Fred Houpt


________________________________
___________________________________________________

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g'day all

The way we listen to music has indeed seen some radical changes since GG's passing. The main reasons are the music itself and technology that is way beyond what GG had envisioned in his essays on technology and that one about the grass being greener in the outtakes.
These days you can "compose" your very own fave Mahler Sy, all you need to do is create a new Playlist in iTunes and the recordings you need. You don't even have to leave the house to buy the recordings. Now that's summet, eh ? Of course we all know that, maybe even take it for granted. But GG never did, he never even saw the advent of the Walkman or mix-tapes, let alone remixes or mash-ups or this ReCompose thing. His ideas (wallpaper or environmental music, infinite choice wherever you are, whatever you want) have come true, bloody crying shame he never got to see the results. He'd be pleased I reckon, maybe doing the odd live-stream or podcast every now and then or blogging about current developments in music and technology. Both the ideas of GG and Marshall McLuhan are somehow frozen in time, we are the lucky ones who have to deal with the effects.

Fred, right about Brian Eno. Music For Airports is a nice one to take a nap to. btw those of you who have no idea what I am talking about and still use older versions of Windows will hear his "music" every day...

Oh, one more thing. GG claimed that if you don't have anything to add to a musical piece then you better shut up, how come people like Brian Eno take music further and Keith Jarrett's recording of the GB's is so utterly boring ?

Pat


Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-My-Back-Peter-Gabriel/dp/B0035J6TA8/ref=cm_cr-mr-title

I gave this a 5 Star review, called it my "disc of the year". It's really a fantastic al****....Eno I love so very much and often will put on some of his ambient stuff to lull me to sleep at night.

I think that GG would be very fascinated with people like Eno who pioneered taking musical sounds apart and re-assembling into something entirely new, almost familiar but yet often hauntingly different sounds.....

regards,

Fred Houpt




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
___________________________________________________

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ciao, salut, allegra, hoi --

I've heard the Jarrett GV -- once -- but I'm most familiar with his early 60's-70s tsunami of acclaim for his free-form concert-length improvisations. This work achieved Heights of Boredom I'd never imagined existed.

And because he was composing it on the spot, while-u-listen, you had no way of knowing what his intentions were or if he was hitting the right notes. By definition, a note he played could not be wrong.

In those days he struck me as a sort of black-caped Vaudeville Doctor Mesmero, very good at getting the message out that he was Amazing, Astonishing, Unique, Supercallifragialisticexpialidocious -- and Highly Spritual, too. Keyboard music would never be the same.

Bob / Massachusetts USA



News, Global Warming, Mozart, Sports, Intergalactic Travel, sausages, VOLCANOS!!! opera, PIRATES!!! Filth in Extinct Lingos, Really Big Integers & BOINC.
http://vleeptronZ.blogspot.com
Remarkable Older Stuph: http://vleeptron.blogspot.com





----- Original Message -----
From: pzumst
To: Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould.
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


g'day all




Oh, one more thing. GG claimed that if you don't have anything to add to a musical piece then you better shut up, how come people like Brian Eno take music further and Keith Jarrett's recording of the GB's is so utterly boring ?

Pat that's great, but, how do you get it to play ?



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http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-My-Back-Peter-Gabriel/dp/B0035J6TA8/ref=cm
_cr-mr-title

I gave this a 5 Star review, called it my "disc of the year". It's
really a fantastic al****....Eno I love so very much and often will put
on some of his ambient stuff to lull me to sleep at night.

I think that GG would be very fascinated with people like Eno who
pioneered taking musical sounds apart and re-assembling into something
entirely new, almost familiar but yet often hauntingly different
sounds.....

regards,

Fred Houpt


________________________________
___________________________________________________

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g'day all

The way we listen to music has indeed seen some radical changes since GG's passing. The main reasons are the music itself and technology that is way beyond what GG had envisioned in his essays on technology and that one about the grass being greener in the outtakes.
These days you can "compose" your very own fave Mahler Sy, all you need to do is create a new Playlist in iTunes and the recordings you need. You don't even have to leave the house to buy the recordings. Now that's summet, eh ? Of course we all know that, maybe even take it for granted. But GG never did, he never even saw the advent of the Walkman or mix-tapes, let alone remixes or mash-ups or this ReCompose thing. His ideas (wallpaper or environmental music, infinite choice wherever you are, whatever you want) have come true, bloody crying shame he never got to see the results. He'd be pleased I reckon, maybe doing the odd live-stream or podcast every now and then or blogging about current developments in music and technology. Both the ideas of GG and Marshall McLuhan are somehow frozen in time, we are the lucky ones who have to deal with the effects.

Fred, right about Brian Eno. Music For Airports is a nice one to take a nap to. btw those of you who have no idea what I am talking about and still use older versions of Windows will hear his "music" every day...

Oh, one more thing. GG claimed that if you don't have anything to add to a musical piece then you better shut up, how come people like Brian Eno take music further and Keith Jarrett's recording of the GB's is so utterly boring ?

Pat


Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-My-Back-Peter-Gabriel/dp/B0035J6TA8/ref=cm_cr-mr-title

I gave this a 5 Star review, called it my "disc of the year". It's really a fantastic al****....Eno I love so very much and often will put on some of his ambient stuff to lull me to sleep at night.

I think that GG would be very fascinated with people like Eno who pioneered taking musical sounds apart and re-assembling into something entirely new, almost familiar but yet often hauntingly different sounds.....

regards,

Fred Houpt




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
___________________________________________________

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ciao, salut, allegra, hoi --

I've heard the Jarrett GV -- once -- but I'm most familiar with his early 60's-70s tsunami of acclaim for his free-form concert-length improvisations. This work achieved Heights of Boredom I'd never imagined existed.

And because he was composing it on the spot, while-u-listen, you had no way of knowing what his intentions were or if he was hitting the right notes. By definition, a note he played could not be wrong.

In those days he struck me as a sort of black-caped Vaudeville Doctor Mesmero, very good at getting the message out that he was Amazing, Astonishing, Unique, Supercallifragialisticexpialidocious -- and Highly Spritual, too. Keyboard music would never be the same.

Bob / Massachusetts USA



News, Global Warming, Mozart, Sports, Intergalactic Travel, sausages, VOLCANOS!!! opera, PIRATES!!! Filth in Extinct Lingos, Really Big Integers & BOINC.
http://vleeptronZ.blogspot.com
Remarkable Older Stuph: http://vleeptron.blogspot.com





----- Original Message -----
From: pzumst
To: Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould.
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


g'day all




Oh, one more thing. GG claimed that if you don't have anything to add to a musical piece then you better shut up, how come people like Brian Eno take music further and Keith Jarrett's recording of the GB's is so utterly boring ?

Pat that's great, but, how do you get it to play ?



________________________________
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe. The other thingt that has changed is not just the music we listen to but how we listen to music. Categories are not as strict as they once used to be like the german E- and U-Musik (serious and entertainment music). The crossover aspect makes it even more interestig to discover new music. Play some Steve **** to an electronica buff and he will give you a nod, play some Brian Eno to your classcal radio DJ, he'll probably give you a nod too. Of course GG was into the Kontrapunkt thing, but without even an interest in experimentation (in terms o technology !) and how music or sound will affect people he would not have come up with the idea of IoN and pioneer tha same techniques that are standards these days. Cutting, looping, sampling, splicing and putting things into a completely different context. I still wonder wether we should think of categories in music or abandon the idea of the box where you can put an artist into. Classical, postmodern, avantgarde, baroque, minimal, who cares ?

I also must mention that Mary never claimed that GG might like Eno's music, he certainly migh be most interested in some of the tech stuff that is going on these days. Crying bloody shame he never got to see that. Wether he would approve or let the Puritan out I cannot say. But he would certainly examine some ideas and technologies.

Pat


From: Brett Allen-Bayes
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:26 AM
To: 'Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould.'
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


As Brian Eno has come up with his own play on minimalism (and we all know that GG detested it as much as he detested rock music), somehow I don't think that Gould would have been an Eno fan at all! Where in Eno's work do you find any sort of complex counterpoint of the type that he relished? No doubt he may have displayed some interest in Eno's use of electronics etc; but his music? I don't think so.




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http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-My-Back-Peter-Gabriel/dp/B0035J6TA8/ref=cm
_cr-mr-title

I gave this a 5 Star review, called it my "disc of the year". It's
really a fantastic al****....Eno I love so very much and often will put
on some of his ambient stuff to lull me to sleep at night.

I think that GG would be very fascinated with people like Eno who
pioneered taking musical sounds apart and re-assembling into something
entirely new, almost familiar but yet often hauntingly different
sounds.....

regards,

Fred Houpt


________________________________
___________________________________________________

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g'day all

The way we listen to music has indeed seen some radical changes since GG's passing. The main reasons are the music itself and technology that is way beyond what GG had envisioned in his essays on technology and that one about the grass being greener in the outtakes.
These days you can "compose" your very own fave Mahler Sy, all you need to do is create a new Playlist in iTunes and the recordings you need. You don't even have to leave the house to buy the recordings. Now that's summet, eh ? Of course we all know that, maybe even take it for granted. But GG never did, he never even saw the advent of the Walkman or mix-tapes, let alone remixes or mash-ups or this ReCompose thing. His ideas (wallpaper or environmental music, infinite choice wherever you are, whatever you want) have come true, bloody crying shame he never got to see the results. He'd be pleased I reckon, maybe doing the odd live-stream or podcast every now and then or blogging about current developments in music and technology. Both the ideas of GG and Marshall McLuhan are somehow frozen in time, we are the lucky ones who have to deal with the effects.

Fred, right about Brian Eno. Music For Airports is a nice one to take a nap to. btw those of you who have no idea what I am talking about and still use older versions of Windows will hear his "music" every day...

Oh, one more thing. GG claimed that if you don't have anything to add to a musical piece then you better shut up, how come people like Brian Eno take music further and Keith Jarrett's recording of the GB's is so utterly boring ?

Pat


Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-My-Back-Peter-Gabriel/dp/B0035J6TA8/ref=cm_cr-mr-title

I gave this a 5 Star review, called it my "disc of the year". It's really a fantastic al****....Eno I love so very much and often will put on some of his ambient stuff to lull me to sleep at night.

I think that GG would be very fascinated with people like Eno who pioneered taking musical sounds apart and re-assembling into something entirely new, almost familiar but yet often hauntingly different sounds.....

regards,

Fred Houpt




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
___________________________________________________

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ciao, salut, allegra, hoi --

I've heard the Jarrett GV -- once -- but I'm most familiar with his early 60's-70s tsunami of acclaim for his free-form concert-length improvisations. This work achieved Heights of Boredom I'd never imagined existed.

And because he was composing it on the spot, while-u-listen, you had no way of knowing what his intentions were or if he was hitting the right notes. By definition, a note he played could not be wrong.

In those days he struck me as a sort of black-caped Vaudeville Doctor Mesmero, very good at getting the message out that he was Amazing, Astonishing, Unique, Supercallifragialisticexpialidocious -- and Highly Spritual, too. Keyboard music would never be the same.

Bob / Massachusetts USA



News, Global Warming, Mozart, Sports, Intergalactic Travel, sausages, VOLCANOS!!! opera, PIRATES!!! Filth in Extinct Lingos, Really Big Integers & BOINC.
http://vleeptronZ.blogspot.com
Remarkable Older Stuph: http://vleeptron.blogspot.com





----- Original Message -----
From: pzumst
To: Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould.
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


g'day all




Oh, one more thing. GG claimed that if you don't have anything to add to a musical piece then you better shut up, how come people like Brian Eno take music further and Keith Jarrett's recording of the GB's is so utterly boring ?

Pat that's great, but, how do you get it to play ?



________________________________
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe. The other thingt that has changed is not just the music we listen to but how we listen to music. Categories are not as strict as they once used to be like the german E- and U-Musik (serious and entertainment music). The crossover aspect makes it even more interestig to discover new music. Play some Steve **** to an electronica buff and he will give you a nod, play some Brian Eno to your classcal radio DJ, he'll probably give you a nod too. Of course GG was into the Kontrapunkt thing, but without even an interest in experimentation (in terms o technology !) and how music or sound will affect people he would not have come up with the idea of IoN and pioneer tha same techniques that are standards these days. Cutting, looping, sampling, splicing and putting things into a completely different context. I still wonder wether we should think of categories in music or abandon the idea of the box where you can put an artist into. Classical, postmodern, avantgarde, baroque, minimal, who cares ?

I also must mention that Mary never claimed that GG might like Eno's music, he certainly migh be most interested in some of the tech stuff that is going on these days. Crying bloody shame he never got to see that. Wether he would approve or let the Puritan out I cannot say. But he would certainly examine some ideas and technologies.

Pat


From: Brett Allen-Bayes
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:26 AM
To: 'Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould.'
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


As Brian Eno has come up with his own play on minimalism (and we all know that GG detested it as much as he detested rock music), somehow I don't think that Gould would have been an Eno fan at all! Where in Eno's work do you find any sort of complex counterpoint of the type that he relished? No doubt he may have displayed some interest in Eno's use of electronics etc; but his music? I don't think so.




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe. I have you all beat....Have a look/listen to this. If this does not blow your mind, nothing will.

Enjoy,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM8Nw7epHMU

Best regards,

Fred Houpt

[snip]

http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-My-Back-Peter-Gabriel/dp/B0035J6TA8/ref=cm
_cr-mr-title

I gave this a 5 Star review, called it my "disc of the year". It's
really a fantastic al****....Eno I love so very much and often will put
on some of his ambient stuff to lull me to sleep at night.

I think that GG would be very fascinated with people like Eno who
pioneered taking musical sounds apart and re-assembling into something
entirely new, almost familiar but yet often hauntingly different
sounds.....

regards,

Fred Houpt


________________________________
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe.
g'day all

The way we listen to music has indeed seen some radical changes since GG's passing. The main reasons are the music itself and technology that is way beyond what GG had envisioned in his essays on technology and that one about the grass being greener in the outtakes.
These days you can "compose" your very own fave Mahler Sy, all you need to do is create a new Playlist in iTunes and the recordings you need. You don't even have to leave the house to buy the recordings. Now that's summet, eh ? Of course we all know that, maybe even take it for granted. But GG never did, he never even saw the advent of the Walkman or mix-tapes, let alone remixes or mash-ups or this ReCompose thing. His ideas (wallpaper or environmental music, infinite choice wherever you are, whatever you want) have come true, bloody crying shame he never got to see the results. He'd be pleased I reckon, maybe doing the odd live-stream or podcast every now and then or blogging about current developments in music and technology. Both the ideas of GG and Marshall McLuhan are somehow frozen in time, we are the lucky ones who have to deal with the effects.

Fred, right about Brian Eno. Music For Airports is a nice one to take a nap to. btw those of you who have no idea what I am talking about and still use older versions of Windows will hear his "music" every day...

Oh, one more thing. GG claimed that if you don't have anything to add to a musical piece then you better shut up, how come people like Brian Eno take music further and Keith Jarrett's recording of the GB's is so utterly boring ?

Pat


Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-My-Back-Peter-Gabriel/dp/B0035J6TA8/ref=cm_cr-mr-title

I gave this a 5 Star review, called it my "disc of the year". It's really a fantastic al****....Eno I love so very much and often will put on some of his ambient stuff to lull me to sleep at night.

I think that GG would be very fascinated with people like Eno who pioneered taking musical sounds apart and re-assembling into something entirely new, almost familiar but yet often hauntingly different sounds.....

regards,

Fred Houpt




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe.

ciao, salut, allegra, hoi --

I've heard the Jarrett GV -- once -- but I'm most familiar with his early 60's-70s tsunami of acclaim for his free-form concert-length improvisations. This work achieved Heights of Boredom I'd never imagined existed.

And because he was composing it on the spot, while-u-listen, you had no way of knowing what his intentions were or if he was hitting the right notes. By definition, a note he played could not be wrong.

In those days he struck me as a sort of black-caped Vaudeville Doctor Mesmero, very good at getting the message out that he was Amazing, Astonishing, Unique, Supercallifragialisticexpialidocious -- and Highly Spritual, too. Keyboard music would never be the same.

Bob / Massachusetts USA



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----- Original Message -----
From: pzumst
To: Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould.
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


g'day all




Oh, one more thing. GG claimed that if you don't have anything to add to a musical piece then you better shut up, how come people like Brian Eno take music further and Keith Jarrett's recording of the GB's is so utterly boring ?

Pat that's great, but, how do you get it to play ?



________________________________
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe. The other thingt that has changed is not just the music we listen to but how we listen to music. Categories are not as strict as they once used to be like the german E- and U-Musik (serious and entertainment music). The crossover aspect makes it even more interestig to discover new music. Play some Steve **** to an electronica buff and he will give you a nod, play some Brian Eno to your classcal radio DJ, he'll probably give you a nod too. Of course GG was into the Kontrapunkt thing, but without even an interest in experimentation (in terms o technology !) and how music or sound will affect people he would not have come up with the idea of IoN and pioneer tha same techniques that are standards these days. Cutting, looping, sampling, splicing and putting things into a completely different context. I still wonder wether we should think of categories in music or abandon the idea of the box where you can put an artist into. Classical, postmodern, avantgarde, baroque, minimal, who cares ?

I also must mention that Mary never claimed that GG might like Eno's music, he certainly migh be most interested in some of the tech stuff that is going on these days. Crying bloody shame he never got to see that. Wether he would approve or let the Puritan out I cannot say. But he would certainly examine some ideas and technologies.

Pat


From: Brett Allen-Bayes
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:26 AM
To: 'Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould.'
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


As Brian Eno has come up with his own play on minimalism (and we all know that GG detested it as much as he detested rock music), somehow I don't think that Gould would have been an Eno fan at all! Where in Eno's work do you find any sort of complex counterpoint of the type that he relished? No doubt he may have displayed some interest in Eno's use of electronics etc; but his music? I don't think so.




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
___________________________________________________

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Enjoy,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM8Nw7epHMU

Best regards,

Fred Houpt

[snip] Don't make the mistake of believing that GG was stuck on counterpoint
like a fly on sticky paper. Listen then to his sumptuous and very
rarely played by anyone G. Bizet, which is just dripping wet
romanticism. GG had a wider palette than mere architecture. However,
having said that I will add that his mind had the blessing of a deeper
than "normal" perception of musical structures and he was able to use
this preternatural gift in the interpretive arts. What we hear then is
GG's profound sense of how sounds in a piece connect with each other
through thematic roads and motifs. The music he plays is all of a
wholeness rather than fragmented...and that was a gift he used to great
success, in my view.

Who knows what he might have felt about musical experimenters.....being
one himself, he might have been quite tickled by the boldness expressed
by people like Eno, and especially by Phillip Glass. We can only
guess...

Regards,

Fred Houpt

________________________________
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe.

http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-My-Back-Peter-Gabriel/dp/B0035J6TA8/ref=cm
_cr-mr-title

I gave this a 5 Star review, called it my "disc of the year". It's
really a fantastic al****....Eno I love so very much and often will put
on some of his ambient stuff to lull me to sleep at night.

I think that GG would be very fascinated with people like Eno who
pioneered taking musical sounds apart and re-assembling into something
entirely new, almost familiar but yet often hauntingly different
sounds.....

regards,

Fred Houpt


________________________________
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe.
g'day all

The way we listen to music has indeed seen some radical changes since GG's passing. The main reasons are the music itself and technology that is way beyond what GG had envisioned in his essays on technology and that one about the grass being greener in the outtakes.
These days you can "compose" your very own fave Mahler Sy, all you need to do is create a new Playlist in iTunes and the recordings you need. You don't even have to leave the house to buy the recordings. Now that's summet, eh ? Of course we all know that, maybe even take it for granted. But GG never did, he never even saw the advent of the Walkman or mix-tapes, let alone remixes or mash-ups or this ReCompose thing. His ideas (wallpaper or environmental music, infinite choice wherever you are, whatever you want) have come true, bloody crying shame he never got to see the results. He'd be pleased I reckon, maybe doing the odd live-stream or podcast every now and then or blogging about current developments in music and technology. Both the ideas of GG and Marshall McLuhan are somehow frozen in time, we are the lucky ones who have to deal with the effects.

Fred, right about Brian Eno. Music For Airports is a nice one to take a nap to. btw those of you who have no idea what I am talking about and still use older versions of Windows will hear his "music" every day...

Oh, one more thing. GG claimed that if you don't have anything to add to a musical piece then you better shut up, how come people like Brian Eno take music further and Keith Jarrett's recording of the GB's is so utterly boring ?

Pat


Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-My-Back-Peter-Gabriel/dp/B0035J6TA8/ref=cm_cr-mr-title

I gave this a 5 Star review, called it my "disc of the year". It's really a fantastic al****....Eno I love so very much and often will put on some of his ambient stuff to lull me to sleep at night.

I think that GG would be very fascinated with people like Eno who pioneered taking musical sounds apart and re-assembling into something entirely new, almost familiar but yet often hauntingly different sounds.....

regards,

Fred Houpt




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe.

ciao, salut, allegra, hoi --

I've heard the Jarrett GV -- once -- but I'm most familiar with his early 60's-70s tsunami of acclaim for his free-form concert-length improvisations. This work achieved Heights of Boredom I'd never imagined existed.

And because he was composing it on the spot, while-u-listen, you had no way of knowing what his intentions were or if he was hitting the right notes. By definition, a note he played could not be wrong.

In those days he struck me as a sort of black-caped Vaudeville Doctor Mesmero, very good at getting the message out that he was Amazing, Astonishing, Unique, Supercallifragialisticexpialidocious -- and Highly Spritual, too. Keyboard music would never be the same.

Bob / Massachusetts USA



News, Global Warming, Mozart, Sports, Intergalactic Travel, sausages, VOLCANOS!!! opera, PIRATES!!! Filth in Extinct Lingos, Really Big Integers & BOINC.
http://vleeptronZ.blogspot.com
Remarkable Older Stuph: http://vleeptron.blogspot.com





----- Original Message -----
From: pzumst
To: Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould.
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


g'day all




Oh, one more thing. GG claimed that if you don't have anything to add to a musical piece then you better shut up, how come people like Brian Eno take music further and Keith Jarrett's recording of the GB's is so utterly boring ?

Pat that's great, but, how do you get it to play ?



________________________________
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe. The other thingt that has changed is not just the music we listen to but how we listen to music. Categories are not as strict as they once used to be like the german E- and U-Musik (serious and entertainment music). The crossover aspect makes it even more interestig to discover new music. Play some Steve **** to an electronica buff and he will give you a nod, play some Brian Eno to your classcal radio DJ, he'll probably give you a nod too. Of course GG was into the Kontrapunkt thing, but without even an interest in experimentation (in terms o technology !) and how music or sound will affect people he would not have come up with the idea of IoN and pioneer tha same techniques that are standards these days. Cutting, looping, sampling, splicing and putting things into a completely different context. I still wonder wether we should think of categories in music or abandon the idea of the box where you can put an artist into. Classical, postmodern, avantgarde, baroque, minimal, who cares ?

I also must mention that Mary never claimed that GG might like Eno's music, he certainly migh be most interested in some of the tech stuff that is going on these days. Crying bloody shame he never got to see that. Wether he would approve or let the Puritan out I cannot say. But he would certainly examine some ideas and technologies.

Pat


From: Brett Allen-Bayes
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:26 AM
To: 'Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould.'
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


As Brian Eno has come up with his own play on minimalism (and we all know that GG detested it as much as he detested rock music), somehow I don't think that Gould would have been an Eno fan at all! Where in Eno's work do you find any sort of complex counterpoint of the type that he relished? No doubt he may have displayed some interest in Eno's use of electronics etc; but his music? I don't think so.




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe. I have you all beat....Have a look/listen to this. If this does not blow your mind, nothing will.

Enjoy,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM8Nw7epHMU

Best regards,

Fred Houpt

[snip] Don't make the mistake of believing that GG was stuck on counterpoint
like a fly on sticky paper. Listen then to his sumptuous and very
rarely played by anyone G. Bizet, which is just dripping wet
romanticism. GG had a wider palette than mere architecture. However,
having said that I will add that his mind had the blessing of a deeper
than "normal" perception of musical structures and he was able to use
this preternatural gift in the interpretive arts. What we hear then is
GG's profound sense of how sounds in a piece connect with each other
through thematic roads and motifs. The music he plays is all of a
wholeness rather than fragmented...and that was a gift he used to great
success, in my view.

Who knows what he might have felt about musical experimenters.....being
one himself, he might have been quite tickled by the boldness expressed
by people like Eno, and especially by Phillip Glass. We can only
guess...

Regards,

Fred Houpt

________________________________
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe. Knock Knock
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----- Original Message -----
From: Houpt, Fred
To: Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould.
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


Don't make the mistake of believing that GG was stuck on counterpoint like a fly on sticky paper. Listen then to his sumptuous and very rarely played by anyone G. Bizet, which is just dripping wet romanticism. GG had a wider palette than mere architecture. However, having said that I will add that his mind had the blessing of a deeper than "normal" perception of musical structures and he was able to use this preternatural gift in the interpretive arts. What we hear then is GG's profound sense of how sounds in a piece connect with each other through thematic roads and motifs. The music he plays is all of a wholeness rather than fragmented...and that was a gift he used to great success, in my view.

Who knows what he might have felt about musical experimenters.....being one himself, he might have been quite tickled by the boldness expressed by people like Eno, and especially by Phillip Glass. We can only guess...

Regards,

Fred Houpt

http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-My-Back-Peter-Gabriel/dp/B0035J6TA8/ref=cm
_cr-mr-title

I gave this a 5 Star review, called it my "disc of the year". It's
really a fantastic al****....Eno I love so very much and often will put
on some of his ambient stuff to lull me to sleep at night.

I think that GG would be very fascinated with people like Eno who
pioneered taking musical sounds apart and re-assembling into something
entirely new, almost familiar but yet often hauntingly different
sounds.....

regards,

Fred Houpt


________________________________
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe.
g'day all

The way we listen to music has indeed seen some radical changes since GG's passing. The main reasons are the music itself and technology that is way beyond what GG had envisioned in his essays on technology and that one about the grass being greener in the outtakes.
These days you can "compose" your very own fave Mahler Sy, all you need to do is create a new Playlist in iTunes and the recordings you need. You don't even have to leave the house to buy the recordings. Now that's summet, eh ? Of course we all know that, maybe even take it for granted. But GG never did, he never even saw the advent of the Walkman or mix-tapes, let alone remixes or mash-ups or this ReCompose thing. His ideas (wallpaper or environmental music, infinite choice wherever you are, whatever you want) have come true, bloody crying shame he never got to see the results. He'd be pleased I reckon, maybe doing the odd live-stream or podcast every now and then or blogging about current developments in music and technology. Both the ideas of GG and Marshall McLuhan are somehow frozen in time, we are the lucky ones who have to deal with the effects.

Fred, right about Brian Eno. Music For Airports is a nice one to take a nap to. btw those of you who have no idea what I am talking about and still use older versions of Windows will hear his "music" every day...

Oh, one more thing. GG claimed that if you don't have anything to add to a musical piece then you better shut up, how come people like Brian Eno take music further and Keith Jarrett's recording of the GB's is so utterly boring ?

Pat


Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-My-Back-Peter-Gabriel/dp/B0035J6TA8/ref=cm_cr-mr-title

I gave this a 5 Star review, called it my "disc of the year". It's really a fantastic al****....Eno I love so very much and often will put on some of his ambient stuff to lull me to sleep at night.

I think that GG would be very fascinated with people like Eno who pioneered taking musical sounds apart and re-assembling into something entirely new, almost familiar but yet often hauntingly different sounds.....

regards,

Fred Houpt




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe.

ciao, salut, allegra, hoi --

I've heard the Jarrett GV -- once -- but I'm most familiar with his early 60's-70s tsunami of acclaim for his free-form concert-length improvisations. This work achieved Heights of Boredom I'd never imagined existed.

And because he was composing it on the spot, while-u-listen, you had no way of knowing what his intentions were or if he was hitting the right notes. By definition, a note he played could not be wrong.

In those days he struck me as a sort of black-caped Vaudeville Doctor Mesmero, very good at getting the message out that he was Amazing, Astonishing, Unique, Supercallifragialisticexpialidocious -- and Highly Spritual, too. Keyboard music would never be the same.

Bob / Massachusetts USA



News, Global Warming, Mozart, Sports, Intergalactic Travel, sausages, VOLCANOS!!! opera, PIRATES!!! Filth in Extinct Lingos, Really Big Integers & BOINC.
http://vleeptronZ.blogspot.com
Remarkable Older Stuph: http://vleeptron.blogspot.com





----- Original Message -----
From: pzumst
To: Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould.
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


g'day all




Oh, one more thing. GG claimed that if you don't have anything to add to a musical piece then you better shut up, how come people like Brian Eno take music further and Keith Jarrett's recording of the GB's is so utterly boring ?

Pat that's great, but, how do you get it to play ?



________________________________
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe. The other thingt that has changed is not just the music we listen to but how we listen to music. Categories are not as strict as they once used to be like the german E- and U-Musik (serious and entertainment music). The crossover aspect makes it even more interestig to discover new music. Play some Steve **** to an electronica buff and he will give you a nod, play some Brian Eno to your classcal radio DJ, he'll probably give you a nod too. Of course GG was into the Kontrapunkt thing, but without even an interest in experimentation (in terms o technology !) and how music or sound will affect people he would not have come up with the idea of IoN and pioneer tha same techniques that are standards these days. Cutting, looping, sampling, splicing and putting things into a completely different context. I still wonder wether we should think of categories in music or abandon the idea of the box where you can put an artist into. Classical, postmodern, avantgarde, baroque, minimal, who cares ?

I also must mention that Mary never claimed that GG might like Eno's music, he certainly migh be most interested in some of the tech stuff that is going on these days. Crying bloody shame he never got to see that. Wether he would approve or let the Puritan out I cannot say. But he would certainly examine some ideas and technologies.

Pat


From: Brett Allen-Bayes
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:26 AM
To: 'Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould.'
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


As Brian Eno has come up with his own play on minimalism (and we all know that GG detested it as much as he detested rock music), somehow I don't think that Gould would have been an Eno fan at all! Where in Eno's work do you find any sort of complex counterpoint of the type that he relished? No doubt he may have displayed some interest in Eno's use of electronics etc; but his music? I don't think so.




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe. I have you all beat....Have a look/listen to this. If this does not blow your mind, nothing will.

Enjoy,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM8Nw7epHMU

Best regards,

Fred Houpt

[snip] Don't make the mistake of believing that GG was stuck on counterpoint
like a fly on sticky paper. Listen then to his sumptuous and very
rarely played by anyone G. Bizet, which is just dripping wet
romanticism. GG had a wider palette than mere architecture. However,
having said that I will add that his mind had the blessing of a deeper
than "normal" perception of musical structures and he was able to use
this preternatural gift in the interpretive arts. What we hear then is
GG's profound sense of how sounds in a piece connect with each other
through thematic roads and motifs. The music he plays is all of a
wholeness rather than fragmented...and that was a gift he used to great
success, in my view.

Who knows what he might have felt about musical experimenters.....being
one himself, he might have been quite tickled by the boldness expressed
by people like Eno, and especially by Phillip Glass. We can only
guess...

Regards,

Fred Houpt

________________________________
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe. Knock Knock
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----- Original Message -----
From: Houpt, Fred
To: Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould.
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


Don't make the mistake of believing that GG was stuck on counterpoint like a fly on sticky paper. Listen then to his sumptuous and very rarely played by anyone G. Bizet, which is just dripping wet romanticism. GG had a wider palette than mere architecture. However, having said that I will add that his mind had the blessing of a deeper than "normal" perception of musical structures and he was able to use this preternatural gift in the interpretive arts. What we hear then is GG's profound sense of how sounds in a piece connect with each other through thematic roads and motifs. The music he plays is all of a wholeness rather than fragmented...and that was a gift he used to great success, in my view.

Who knows what he might have felt about musical experimenters.....being one himself, he might have been quite tickled by the boldness expressed by people like Eno, and especially by Phillip Glass. We can only guess...

Regards,

Fred Houpt Hah, hah, Bob, well done. My personal Glass fave is the soundtrack to
the awesome film "Powaqatsi"

Fred



________________________________
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe.

http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-My-Back-Peter-Gabriel/dp/B0035J6TA8/ref=cm
_cr-mr-title

I gave this a 5 Star review, called it my "disc of the year". It's
really a fantastic al****....Eno I love so very much and often will put
on some of his ambient stuff to lull me to sleep at night.

I think that GG would be very fascinated with people like Eno who
pioneered taking musical sounds apart and re-assembling into something
entirely new, almost familiar but yet often hauntingly different
sounds.....

regards,

Fred Houpt


________________________________
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe.
g'day all

The way we listen to music has indeed seen some radical changes since GG's passing. The main reasons are the music itself and technology that is way beyond what GG had envisioned in his essays on technology and that one about the grass being greener in the outtakes.
These days you can "compose" your very own fave Mahler Sy, all you need to do is create a new Playlist in iTunes and the recordings you need. You don't even have to leave the house to buy the recordings. Now that's summet, eh ? Of course we all know that, maybe even take it for granted. But GG never did, he never even saw the advent of the Walkman or mix-tapes, let alone remixes or mash-ups or this ReCompose thing. His ideas (wallpaper or environmental music, infinite choice wherever you are, whatever you want) have come true, bloody crying shame he never got to see the results. He'd be pleased I reckon, maybe doing the odd live-stream or podcast every now and then or blogging about current developments in music and technology. Both the ideas of GG and Marshall McLuhan are somehow frozen in time, we are the lucky ones who have to deal with the effects.

Fred, right about Brian Eno. Music For Airports is a nice one to take a nap to. btw those of you who have no idea what I am talking about and still use older versions of Windows will hear his "music" every day...

Oh, one more thing. GG claimed that if you don't have anything to add to a musical piece then you better shut up, how come people like Brian Eno take music further and Keith Jarrett's recording of the GB's is so utterly boring ?

Pat


Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


http://www.amazon.com/Scratch-My-Back-Peter-Gabriel/dp/B0035J6TA8/ref=cm_cr-mr-title

I gave this a 5 Star review, called it my "disc of the year". It's really a fantastic al****....Eno I love so very much and often will put on some of his ambient stuff to lull me to sleep at night.

I think that GG would be very fascinated with people like Eno who pioneered taking musical sounds apart and re-assembling into something entirely new, almost familiar but yet often hauntingly different sounds.....

regards,

Fred Houpt




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
___________________________________________________

Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe.

ciao, salut, allegra, hoi --

I've heard the Jarrett GV -- once -- but I'm most familiar with his early 60's-70s tsunami of acclaim for his free-form concert-length improvisations. This work achieved Heights of Boredom I'd never imagined existed.

And because he was composing it on the spot, while-u-listen, you had no way of knowing what his intentions were or if he was hitting the right notes. By definition, a note he played could not be wrong.

In those days he struck me as a sort of black-caped Vaudeville Doctor Mesmero, very good at getting the message out that he was Amazing, Astonishing, Unique, Supercallifragialisticexpialidocious -- and Highly Spritual, too. Keyboard music would never be the same.

Bob / Massachusetts USA



News, Global Warming, Mozart, Sports, Intergalactic Travel, sausages, VOLCANOS!!! opera, PIRATES!!! Filth in Extinct Lingos, Really Big Integers & BOINC.
http://vleeptronZ.blogspot.com
Remarkable Older Stuph: http://vleeptron.blogspot.com





----- Original Message -----
From: pzumst
To: Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould.
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


g'day all




Oh, one more thing. GG claimed that if you don't have anything to add to a musical piece then you better shut up, how come people like Brian Eno take music further and Keith Jarrett's recording of the GB's is so utterly boring ?

Pat that's great, but, how do you get it to play ?



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Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe. The other thingt that has changed is not just the music we listen to but how we listen to music. Categories are not as strict as they once used to be like the german E- and U-Musik (serious and entertainment music). The crossover aspect makes it even more interestig to discover new music. Play some Steve **** to an electronica buff and he will give you a nod, play some Brian Eno to your classcal radio DJ, he'll probably give you a nod too. Of course GG was into the Kontrapunkt thing, but without even an interest in experimentation (in terms o technology !) and how music or sound will affect people he would not have come up with the idea of IoN and pioneer tha same techniques that are standards these days. Cutting, looping, sampling, splicing and putting things into a completely different context. I still wonder wether we should think of categories in music or abandon the idea of the box where you can put an artist into. Classical, postmodern, avantgarde, baroque, minimal, who cares ?

I also must mention that Mary never claimed that GG might like Eno's music, he certainly migh be most interested in some of the tech stuff that is going on these days. Crying bloody shame he never got to see that. Wether he would approve or let the Puritan out I cannot say. But he would certainly examine some ideas and technologies.

Pat


From: Brett Allen-Bayes
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:26 AM
To: 'Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould.'
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


As Brian Eno has come up with his own play on minimalism (and we all know that GG detested it as much as he detested rock music), somehow I don't think that Gould would have been an Eno fan at all! Where in Eno's work do you find any sort of complex counterpoint of the type that he relished? No doubt he may have displayed some interest in Eno's use of electronics etc; but his music? I don't think so.




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Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe. I have you all beat....Have a look/listen to this. If this does not blow your mind, nothing will.

Enjoy,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM8Nw7epHMU

Best regards,

Fred Houpt

[snip] Don't make the mistake of believing that GG was stuck on counterpoint
like a fly on sticky paper. Listen then to his sumptuous and very
rarely played by anyone G. Bizet, which is just dripping wet
romanticism. GG had a wider palette than mere architecture. However,
having said that I will add that his mind had the blessing of a deeper
than "normal" perception of musical structures and he was able to use
this preternatural gift in the interpretive arts. What we hear then is
GG's profound sense of how sounds in a piece connect with each other
through thematic roads and motifs. The music he plays is all of a
wholeness rather than fragmented...and that was a gift he used to great
success, in my view.

Who knows what he might have felt about musical experimenters.....being
one himself, he might have been quite tickled by the boldness expressed
by people like Eno, and especially by Phillip Glass. We can only
guess...

Regards,

Fred Houpt

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From: Houpt, Fred
To: Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould.
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


Don't make the mistake of believing that GG was stuck on counterpoint like a fly on sticky paper. Listen then to his sumptuous and very rarely played by anyone G. Bizet, which is just dripping wet romanticism. GG had a wider palette than mere architecture. However, having said that I will add that his mind had the blessing of a deeper than "normal" perception of musical structures and he was able to use this preternatural gift in the interpretive arts. What we hear then is GG's profound sense of how sounds in a piece connect with each other through thematic roads and motifs. The music he plays is all of a wholeness rather than fragmented...and that was a gift he used to great success, in my view.

Who knows what he might have felt about musical experimenters.....being one himself, he might have been quite tickled by the boldness expressed by people like Eno, and especially by Phillip Glass. We can only guess...

Regards,

Fred Houpt Hah, hah, Bob, well done. My personal Glass fave is the soundtrack to
the awesome film "Powaqatsi"

Fred



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Posted on the F_minor mailing list. Go to https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/iti_200_social_informatics/..//f_minor to subscribe. Bob, the Chuck Berry joke was funnier somehow....

Those of you who are new this list may or may not know that the National Library of Canada hosts some soundfiles of GG rehearsing. I haven't heard this stuff in ages but I seem to remember that GG was fooling around with a Sonata in glassian style, so there you have it. I must also mention Ubuweb to the newbies. amongst other cool things în the GG entry you will find a documentary called On the Prospects of Recording where he is trying to make a point why recordings are superior to the concert experience and also muses on the future of recoding and listening, most of the stuff has come true when you think of it.

Pat


Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] On Some Faraway Beach Nfld


Hah, hah, Bob, well done. My personal Glass fave is the soundtrack to the awesome film "Powaqatsi"

Fred





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