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At the beginning of time you thought you just might be something and
then that bad ass from over yonder told you that you would never
amount to something but always be nothing.

So what did you do? You decided to make him wrong. He mad you wrong
and turn-around in only fair. You became something. But then he
told you once again that you were a 'nothing' and would never amount
to nothing. And he proved it by showing you that you could be
tripped, you could get hit, you could get squashed but you kept on
trying and making sure that each time you couldn't get tripped, and
then you couldn't get hit, and then you couldn't get squashed and it
seems like this game will never end. Each time you handle something
and you handle it forever, something else comes along. You just lose
lose lose.

You made the fatal mistake. You actually should have stayed a
nothing. Only then were you impervious to any and everything. For
then ….. you were purely a Thetan. A being located no where, in no
time with no energy and no mass. An entity forever, not mortal but
immortal. A fatal mistake is/was the perfect description.

But you just had to have a game didn't you. You better take a look
and see, who is it that is 'REALLY' playing the game with you, on you.

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Read the Dennis Lectures on Bond Breaking and the Insanity Point Lectures for Dennis' explanation of why postulates are perceived as mass.
you'll find them at www.tromhelp.com in the Books page.

Keep on TROMing
Pete

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>
> So what did you do? You decided to make him wrong. He mad you wrong and turn-around in only fair. You became something. But then he told you once again that you were a 'nothing' and would never amount to nothing. And he proved it by showing you that you could be tripped, you could get hit, you could get squashed but you kept on trying and making sure that each time you couldn't get tripped, and then you couldn't get hit, and then you couldn't get squashed and it seems like this game will never end. Each time you handle something and you handle it forever, something else comes along. You just lose lose lose.
>
> You made the fatal mistake. You actually should have stayed a nothing. Only then were you impervious to any and everything. For then ….. you were purely a Thetan. A being located no where, in no time with no energy and no mass. An entity forever, not mortal but immortal. A fatal mistake is/was the perfect description.
>
> But you just had to have a game didn't you. You better take a look and see, who is it that is 'REALLY' playing the game with you, on you.
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Hi Pete,

I have listened to several of those and certainly not all but did not
come across "why postulates are perceived as mass" which is what I
was writing about, that they are perceived as mass.

Is it possible for you to note which lectures have this discussion?

Paul/Level 5 in progress

On Aug 6, 2012, at 8:31 AM, trom- wrote:
>
> Hi Paul
> Read the Dennis Lectures on Bond Breaking and the Insanity Point
> Lectures for Dennis' explanation of why postulates are perceived as
> mass.
> you'll find them at www.tromhelp.com in the Books page.
>
> Keep on TROMing
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Yes, Paul, I would say that they are perceived as mass, because postulates are causitive.

And they could collect charge or cause ridges due to being in conflict with universal law or someone else's postulate.

David





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> Hi Pete,
>
> I have listened to several of those and certainly not all but did not
> come across "why postulates are perceived as mass" which is what I
> was writing about, that they are perceived as mass.
>
> Is it possible for you to note which lectures have this discussion?
>
> Paul/Level 5 in progress
>
> On Aug 6, 2012, at 8:31 AM, trom- wrote:
> >
> > Hi Paul
> > Read the Dennis Lectures on Bond Breaking and the Insanity Point
> > Lectures for Dennis' explanation of why postulates are perceived as
> > mass.
> > you'll find them at www.tromhelp.com in the Books page.
> >
> > Keep on TROMing
> > Pete
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Hi Paul
You need to read both the books "Bond Breaking" and "The Insanity Point Lectures" to understand the Boolean algebra terms Dennis uses to explain how postulates become fused in games play and the fused postulate are perceived as mass by the being.
I have edited the transcripts so they are very readable in the book format. You do not need to be able to solve the Boolean algebra formulas only to know the definition of the terms presented in order to understand how games play produces most of the mass of this universe. Dennis does a very good job of explaining this process.

Sincerely
Pete

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> I have listened to several of those and certainly not all but did not come across "why postulates are perceived as mass" which is what I was writing about, that they are perceived as mass.
>
> Is it possible for you to note which lectures have this discussion?
>
> Paul/Level 5 in progress
>
> On Aug 6, 2012, at 8:31 AM, trom- wrote:
>>
>> Hi Paul
>> Read the Dennis Lectures on Bond Breaking and the Insanity Point Lectures for Dennis' explanation of why postulates are perceived as mass.
>> you'll find them at www.tromhelp.com in the Books page.
>>
>> Keep on TROMing
>> Pete
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Postulates are causative.......that makes me look instantly because it gives me a theta hickup and i want to know why.
My first glance shows me that the person binds itself to a postulate, then is the power and source in order to make sure that the postulate is executed as it says. The person signs and adheres to a contract, limits itself in order to ensure the contract is true and alive.
Postulates are null of course the moment a person becomes aware of the postulates it holds up and decides that it will not hold them up any longer.

There are postulates which are powered by many. Such contracts are called reality ;)


xriz



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Gesendet: 18:51 Montag, 6.August 2012
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Yes, Paul,  I would say that they are perceived as mass, because postulates   are causitive.

And they could collect charge or cause ridges due to being in conflict with universal law or someone else's postulate.

David






> From:
> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 09:33:09 -0700
> To:
> Subject: Re: [TROM1] Here's another Thetan twister to ponder.
>
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> Hi Pete,
>
> I have listened to several of those and certainly not all but did not
> come across "why postulates are perceived as mass" which is what I
> was writing about, that they are perceived as mass.
>
> Is it possible for you to note which lectures have this discussion?
>
> Paul/Level 5 in progress
>
> On Aug 6, 2012, at 8:31 AM, trom- wrote:
> >
> > Hi Paul
> > Read the Dennis Lectures on Bond Breaking and the Insanity Point
> > Lectures for Dennis' explanation of why postulates are perceived as
> > mass.
> > you'll find them at www.tromhelp.com in the Books page.
> >
> > Keep on TROMing
> > Pete
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I have that last sentence wrong. Such contracts are called agreement. Reality is a personal matter.

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Gesendet: 20:32 Montag, 6.August 2012
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Postulates are causative.......that makes me look instantly because it gives me a theta hickup and i want to know why.
My first glance shows me that the person binds itself to a postulate, then is the power and source in order to make sure that the postulate is executed as it says. The person signs and adheres to a contract, limits itself in order to ensure the contract is true and alive.
Postulates are null of course the moment a person becomes aware of the postulates it holds up and decides that it will not hold them up any longer.

There are postulates which are powered by many. Such contracts are called reality ;)


xriz



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Gesendet: 18:51 Montag, 6.August 2012
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Yes, Paul,  I would say that they are perceived as mass, because postulates   are causitive.

And they could collect charge or cause ridges due to being in conflict with universal law or someone else's postulate.

David






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> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 09:33:09 -0700
> To:
> Subject: Re: [TROM1] Here's another Thetan twister to ponder.
>
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> Hi Pete,
>
> I have listened to several of those and certainly not all but did not
> come across "why postulates are perceived as mass" which is what I
> was writing about, that they are perceived as mass.
>
> Is it possible for you to note which lectures have this discussion?
>
> Paul/Level 5 in progress
>
> On Aug 6, 2012, at 8:31 AM, trom- wrote:
> >
> > Hi Paul
> > Read the Dennis Lectures on Bond Breaking and the Insanity Point
> > Lectures for Dennis' explanation of why postulates are perceived as
> > mass.
> > you'll find them at www.tromhelp.com in the Books page.
> >
> > Keep on TROMing
> > Pete
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