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on 28/05/2010 03:20 David Johnson said the following:
> xorg-7.5
> xorg-server-1.7.5,1
> kmymoney2-1.0.3_2
> 8.0-STABLE
> radeon driver"
Which version of the driver?
What hardware?

> I Have attached my xorg.0.log. I know next to nothing about Xorg quirks, but
> the last line looks su****ious: "[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably
> stuck in an infinite loop."

This must be it. Probably some problem with DRI.

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Posted on the Freebsd-x11 mailing list. Go to http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 to subscribe.
> on 28/05/2010 03:20 David Johnson said the following:
>> xorg-7.5
>> xorg-server-1.7.5,1
>> kmymoney2-1.0.3_2
>> 8.0-STABLE
>> radeon driver"
> Which version of the driver?
> What hardware?

The hardware is a Radeon X1550. Not sure about the driver version. It's
whatever -STABLE from a couple months ago provided. How do I get the
version? Should I go back to -RELEASE? Or update to a more recent -STABLE?

>> I Have attached my xorg.0.log. I know next to nothing about Xorg
quirks,
>> but
>> the last line looks su****ious: "[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is
>> probably
>> stuck in an infinite loop."
>
> This must be it. Probably some problem with DRI.

I briefly tried starting X without any xorg.conf, and that seems to show
some promise. I'll need to investigate a bit more to see if the problem
really went away, and if so, what setting it didn't like. I'll look again
tomorrow night when I have more time.

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>> on 28/05/2010 03:20 David Johnson said the following:
>>> xorg-7.5
>>> xorg-server-1.7.5,1
>>> kmymoney2-1.0.3_2
>>> 8.0-STABLE
>>> radeon driver"
>> Which version of the driver?
>> What hardware?
>
> The hardware is a Radeon X1550. Not sure about the driver version. It's
> whatever -STABLE from a couple months ago provided. How do I get the
> version?

I meant xorg driver, not kernel:
ls -d /var/db/pkg/xf86-video-*

Also, what version of Mesa do you have?
ls -d /var/db/pkg/dri*

> Should I go back to -RELEASE? Or update to a more recent -STABLE?

I don't know.

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Posted on the Freebsd-x11 mailing list. Go to http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 to subscribe. > I meant xorg driver, not kernel:
> ls -d /var/db/pkg/xf86-video-*
>
> Also, what version of Mesa do you have?
> ls -d /var/db/pkg/dri*

I'll have to wait until tonight to check, but it will be whatever was in
ports yesterday.

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Posted on the Freebsd-x11 mailing list. Go to http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 to subscribe. >> I meant xorg driver, not kernel:
>> ls -d /var/db/pkg/xf86-video-*
>>
>> Also, what version of Mesa do you have?
>> ls -d /var/db/pkg/dri*
>
> I'll have to wait until tonight to check, but it will be whatever was in
> ports yesterday.

What gets built from ports depends on whether you have WITHOUT_NOUVEAU set.

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Posted on the Freebsd-x11 mailing list. Go to http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 to subscribe. > What gets built from ports depends on whether you have WITHOUT_NOUVEAU
set.

As I said earlier, I am using the radeon driver, and Radeon X1550 card.
How does WITHOUT_NOUVEAU affect that?

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Posted on the Freebsd-x11 mailing list. Go to http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 to subscribe. > As I said earlier, I am using the radeon driver, and Radeon X1550 card.
> How does WITHOUT_NOUVEAU affect that?

If WITHOUT_NOUVEAU is _not_ set, then you are building
an older version of mesa.

See graphics/libGL/bsd.mesalib.mk (which affects
other ports like graphics/libdrm, graphics/dri, etc.).

As is often the case, see ports/UPDATING.
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Posted on the Freebsd-x11 mailing list. Go to http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 to subscribe. >> What gets built from ports depends on whether you have WITHOUT_NOUVEAU
> set.
>
> As I said earlier, I am using the radeon driver, and Radeon X1550 card.
> How does WITHOUT_NOUVEAU affect that?

Setting WITHOUT_NOUVEAU=yes in /etc/make.conf gives you a later version
of the radeon driver.

I can't recall if you've shown your xorg.conf.

Have you seen any of my rants on AllowEmptyInput and the, err...
avoidance thereof?

After some searching yesterday, it looked like something to try would be
disabling DRI in the Device section with Option "DRI" "Off".

But my Radeon X1650 works fine with DRI enabled, and I wouldn't think
the X1550 would be all that different. No KDE here, though.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Posted on the Freebsd-x11 mailing list. Go to http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 to subscribe. >> What gets built from ports depends on whether you have WITHOUT_NOUVEAU
> set.
>
> As I said earlier, I am using the radeon driver, and Radeon X1550 card.
> How does WITHOUT_NOUVEAU affect that?

It may have an effect because you are "without nouveau"? Possible? :-)
Half joking here, please report the versions when you have a chance.

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Posted on the Freebsd-x11 mailing list. Go to http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 to subscribe. wrote:
> > As I said earlier, I am using the radeon driver, and Radeon X1550
card.
> > How does WITHOUT_NOUVEAU affect that?
>
> If WITHOUT_NOUVEAU is _not_ set, then you are building
> an older version of mesa.
>
> See graphics/libGL/bsd.mesalib.mk (which affects
> other ports like graphics/libdrm, graphics/dri, etc.).
>
> As is often the case, see ports/UPDATING.

How long ago was that note? I probably did see that note in UPDATING, but
skimmed over it in the assumption that it only applied to NVidia users.
Until now I had thought it meant to build the older free NVidia driver
instead of the new nouveau.

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Posted on the Freebsd-x11 mailing list. Go to http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 to subscribe. On Friday, May 28, 2010 01:06:14 am Andriy Gapon wrote:
> >> on 28/05/2010 03:20 David Johnson said the following:
> >>> xorg-7.5
> >>> xorg-server-1.7.5,1
> >>> kmymoney2-1.0.3_2
> >>> 8.0-STABLE
> >>> radeon driver"
> >>
> >> Which version of the driver?
> >> What hardware?

/var/db/pkg/xf86-video-ati-6.13.0
/var/db/pkg/dri-7.4.4,2

I am also putting in WITHOUT_NOUVEAU, and checking all settings in xorg.conf.

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Posted on the Freebsd-x11 mailing list. Go to http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 to subscribe. So far things seem to be working. I added the WITHOUT_NOUVEAU variable and
updated the dependent ports. As a side effect, all those ports are now marked
as '>' in portversion. I'm hoping that won't cause any problems.

The actual culprit seemed to be EXAVSync in xorg.conf. I added that over a
year ago to get KDE desktop effects working. Now that I took it out the hangs
stop, but KDE desktop effects are now unavailable.

Thanks for the help.

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Posted on the Freebsd-x11 mailing list. Go to http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 to subscribe. on 29/05/2010 20:56 David Johnson said the following:
> So far things seem to be working. I added the WITHOUT_NOUVEAU variable and
> updated the dependent ports. As a side effect, all those ports are now marked
> as '>' in portversion. I'm hoping that won't cause any problems.
>
> The actual culprit seemed to be EXAVSync in xorg.conf. I added that over a
> year ago to get KDE desktop effects working. Now that I took it out the hangs
> stop, but KDE desktop effects are now unavailable.

So, I am confused - you still get the hangs with the new versions of the ports
unless you disable that option?

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Posted on the Freebsd-x11 mailing list. Go to http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 to subscribe. On Mon, 31 May 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote:

> on 29/05/2010 20:56 David Johnson said the following:
>> So far things seem to be working. I added the WITHOUT_NOUVEAU variable and
>> updated the dependent ports. As a side effect, all those ports are now marked
>> as '>' in portversion. I'm hoping that won't cause any problems.
>>
>> The actual culprit seemed to be EXAVSync in xorg.conf. I added that over a
>> year ago to get KDE desktop effects working. Now that I took it out the hangs
>> stop, but KDE desktop effects are now unavailable.
>
> So, I am confused - you still get the hangs with the new versions of the ports
> unless you disable that option?

EXAVSync shouldn't affect compositing, or at least it doesn't seem to
for me. And I think KDE desktop effects are based on compositing. But
I don't run KDE...

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Posted on the Freebsd-x11 mailing list. Go to http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 to subscribe. On Mon, 31 May 2010, Warren Block wrote:

> On Mon, 31 May 2010, Andriy Gapon wrote:
>
>> on 29/05/2010 20:56 David Johnson said the following:
>>> So far things seem to be working. I added the WITHOUT_NOUVEAU variable and
>>> updated the dependent ports. As a side effect, all those ports are now
>>> marked
>>> as '>' in portversion. I'm hoping that won't cause any problems.
>>>
>>> The actual culprit seemed to be EXAVSync in xorg.conf. I added that
>>> over a year ago to get KDE desktop effects working. Now that I took
>>> it out the hangs stop, but KDE desktop effects are now unavailable.
>>
>> So, I am confused - you still get the hangs with the new versions of
>> the ports unless you disable that option?
>
> EXAVSync shouldn't affect compositing, or at least it doesn't seem to for me.
> And I think KDE desktop effects are based on compositing. But I don't run
> KDE...

What I was trying but failed to say was

"Also, EXAVSync should not disable compositing (KDE desktop effects)."

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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