Just a short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put
on his lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He
brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous
technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings
including paying close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes
for how the piece is to be played, I found that lecture to be one of the
finest I've ever heard. I hope to make my way through the rest of his
fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at
all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred Houpt
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Just a short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put
on his lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He
brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous
technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings
including paying close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes
for how the piece is to be played, I found that lecture to be one of the
finest I've ever heard. I hope to make my way through the rest of his
fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at
all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred Houpt
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Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven








Just a short
word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on
Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He brings a
Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous technique,
sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings including paying
close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be
played, I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope to
make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a worthwhile
adventure. GG would be pleased at all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred
Houpt_______________________________________________________________________



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Just a short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put
on his lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He
brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous
technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings
including paying close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes
for how the piece is to be played, I found that lecture to be one of the
finest I've ever heard. I hope to make my way through the rest of his
fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at
all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred Houpt
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Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven








Just a short
word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on
Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He brings a
Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous technique,
sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings including paying
close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be
played, I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope to
make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a worthwhile
adventure. GG would be pleased at all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred
Houpt_______________________________________________________________________



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Hi Mary et al
The Internet never forgets, with cunning and thinking arond the corners one should at least in theory be able to find almost everything.

I was able to locate some of these lectures as an iTunes podcast here:
http://itunes.apple.com/ch/artist/guardian-co-uk/id136731196

Wether they are complete I cannot say, just scroll down and you should see them, starting at 100.

The podcast directory with the mp3 files can be found here:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=d730cccb2d7eeba1340fac5bfe9065d6&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.ilounge.com%2Ffree-music%2F182817-free-beethoven-piano-sonatas-lecture-recitals-andras-schiff.html&v=1&libid=1307063656513&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Fpodcast%2F0%2C%2C329467939%2C00.xml&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.ch%2Fsearch%3Fsourceid%3Dnavclient%26hl%3Dde%26ie%3DUTF-8%26%26q%3Dschiff%2Bbweethoven%2Blectures&title=Free%20Beethoven%20Piano%20Sonatas%20Lecture-Recitals%20by%20Andras%20Schiff%20-%20iLounge%20Forums&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Fpodcast%2F0%2C%2C329467939%2C00.xml

Just scroll down to the bottom of the page, right-click and choose Save As.

This link should also help I reckon:
http://forums.ilounge.com/free-music/182817-free-beethoven-piano-sonatas-lecture-recitals-andras-schiff.html

If these links still won’t do the trick just let me or us know.

Pat

From: maryellen jensen
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:47 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Just a short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings including paying close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be played, I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope to make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred Houpt
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Just a short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put
on his lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He
brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous
technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings
including paying close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes
for how the piece is to be played, I found that lecture to be one of the
finest I've ever heard. I hope to make my way through the rest of his
fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at
all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred Houpt
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Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven








Just a short
word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on
Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He brings a
Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous technique,
sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings including paying
close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be
played, I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope to
make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a worthwhile
adventure. GG would be pleased at all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred
Houpt_______________________________________________________________________



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Hi Mary et al
The Internet never forgets, with cunning and thinking arond the corners one should at least in theory be able to find almost everything.

I was able to locate some of these lectures as an iTunes podcast here:
http://itunes.apple.com/ch/artist/guardian-co-uk/id136731196

Wether they are complete I cannot say, just scroll down and you should see them, starting at 100.

The podcast directory with the mp3 files can be found here:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=d730cccb2d7eeba1340fac5bfe9065d6&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.ilounge.com%2Ffree-music%2F182817-free-beethoven-piano-sonatas-lecture-recitals-andras-schiff.html&v=1&libid=1307063656513&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Fpodcast%2F0%2C%2C329467939%2C00.xml&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.ch%2Fsearch%3Fsourceid%3Dnavclient%26hl%3Dde%26ie%3DUTF-8%26%26q%3Dschiff%2Bbweethoven%2Blectures&title=Free%20Beethoven%20Piano%20Sonatas%20Lecture-Recitals%20by%20Andras%20Schiff%20-%20iLounge%20Forums&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Fpodcast%2F0%2C%2C329467939%2C00.xml

Just scroll down to the bottom of the page, right-click and choose Save As.

This link should also help I reckon:
http://forums.ilounge.com/free-music/182817-free-beethoven-piano-sonatas-lecture-recitals-andras-schiff.html

If these links still won’t do the trick just let me or us know.

Pat

From: maryellen jensen
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:47 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Just a short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings including paying close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be played, I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope to make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred Houpt
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Hello Mary,

On 03/06/2011, at 8:47 AM, maryellen jensen wrote:

>
> Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
> The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.
>
> http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html
>
> Mary


Try:

It has the first 4 sonatas, and you can find some others if you scroll to the bottom of the page. The link to Wigmore Hall doesn't seem to be working, and I think that's where you will find the complete lectures rather than 1-lecture-per-sonata, as above. Google might help but I've run out of time. Regards,


-- Tim

Just a short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put
on his lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He
brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous
technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings
including paying close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes
for how the piece is to be played, I found that lecture to be one of the
finest I've ever heard. I hope to make my way through the rest of his
fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at
all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred Houpt
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Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven








Just a short
word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on
Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He brings a
Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous technique,
sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings including paying
close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be
played, I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope to
make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a worthwhile
adventure. GG would be pleased at all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred
Houpt_______________________________________________________________________



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Hi Mary et al
The Internet never forgets, with cunning and thinking arond the corners one should at least in theory be able to find almost everything.

I was able to locate some of these lectures as an iTunes podcast here:
http://itunes.apple.com/ch/artist/guardian-co-uk/id136731196

Wether they are complete I cannot say, just scroll down and you should see them, starting at 100.

The podcast directory with the mp3 files can be found here:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=d730cccb2d7eeba1340fac5bfe9065d6&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.ilounge.com%2Ffree-music%2F182817-free-beethoven-piano-sonatas-lecture-recitals-andras-schiff.html&v=1&libid=1307063656513&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Fpodcast%2F0%2C%2C329467939%2C00.xml&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.ch%2Fsearch%3Fsourceid%3Dnavclient%26hl%3Dde%26ie%3DUTF-8%26%26q%3Dschiff%2Bbweethoven%2Blectures&title=Free%20Beethoven%20Piano%20Sonatas%20Lecture-Recitals%20by%20Andras%20Schiff%20-%20iLounge%20Forums&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Fpodcast%2F0%2C%2C329467939%2C00.xml

Just scroll down to the bottom of the page, right-click and choose Save As.

This link should also help I reckon:
http://forums.ilounge.com/free-music/182817-free-beethoven-piano-sonatas-lecture-recitals-andras-schiff.html

If these links still won’t do the trick just let me or us know.

Pat

From: maryellen jensen
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:47 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Just a short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings including paying close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be played, I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope to make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred Houpt
_______________________________________________________________________

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Hello Mary,

On 03/06/2011, at 8:47 AM, maryellen jensen wrote:

>
> Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
> The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.
>
> http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html
>
> Mary


Try:

It has the first 4 sonatas, and you can find some others if you scroll to the bottom of the page. The link to Wigmore Hall doesn't seem to be working, and I think that's where you will find the complete lectures rather than 1-lecture-per-sonata, as above. Google might help but I've run out of time. Regards,


-- Tim



Hello Mary,

On 03/06/2011, at 8:47 AM, maryellen jensen wrote:

> Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
> The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.
>
> http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html
>
> Mary


I did a swift Google and found . The lectures are in reverse order, so 1-3 are at the bottom of the list. Regards,


-- Tim

Just a short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put
on his lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He
brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous
technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings
including paying close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes
for how the piece is to be played, I found that lecture to be one of the
finest I've ever heard. I hope to make my way through the rest of his
fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at
all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred Houpt
_______________________________________________________________________

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Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven








Just a short
word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on
Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He brings a
Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous technique,
sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings including paying
close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be
played, I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope to
make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a worthwhile
adventure. GG would be pleased at all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred
Houpt_______________________________________________________________________



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Hi Mary et al
The Internet never forgets, with cunning and thinking arond the corners one should at least in theory be able to find almost everything.

I was able to locate some of these lectures as an iTunes podcast here:
http://itunes.apple.com/ch/artist/guardian-co-uk/id136731196

Wether they are complete I cannot say, just scroll down and you should see them, starting at 100.

The podcast directory with the mp3 files can be found here:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=d730cccb2d7eeba1340fac5bfe9065d6&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.ilounge.com%2Ffree-music%2F182817-free-beethoven-piano-sonatas-lecture-recitals-andras-schiff.html&v=1&libid=1307063656513&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Fpodcast%2F0%2C%2C329467939%2C00.xml&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.ch%2Fsearch%3Fsourceid%3Dnavclient%26hl%3Dde%26ie%3DUTF-8%26%26q%3Dschiff%2Bbweethoven%2Blectures&title=Free%20Beethoven%20Piano%20Sonatas%20Lecture-Recitals%20by%20Andras%20Schiff%20-%20iLounge%20Forums&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Fpodcast%2F0%2C%2C329467939%2C00.xml

Just scroll down to the bottom of the page, right-click and choose Save As.

This link should also help I reckon:
http://forums.ilounge.com/free-music/182817-free-beethoven-piano-sonatas-lecture-recitals-andras-schiff.html

If these links still won’t do the trick just let me or us know.

Pat

From: maryellen jensen
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:47 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Just a short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings including paying close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be played, I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope to make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred Houpt
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Hello Mary,

On 03/06/2011, at 8:47 AM, maryellen jensen wrote:

>
> Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
> The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.
>
> http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html
>
> Mary


Try:

It has the first 4 sonatas, and you can find some others if you scroll to the bottom of the page. The link to Wigmore Hall doesn't seem to be working, and I think that's where you will find the complete lectures rather than 1-lecture-per-sonata, as above. Google might help but I've run out of time. Regards,


-- Tim



Hello Mary,

On 03/06/2011, at 8:47 AM, maryellen jensen wrote:

> Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
> The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.
>
> http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html
>
> Mary


I did a swift Google and found . The lectures are in reverse order, so 1-3 are at the bottom of the list. Regards,


-- Tim





Yes, Parts One through Three are at the bottom of the page and they no longer work.

These Beethoven Lectures are not at Wigmore Hall site but Schiff's Haydn lectures are there and they are terrific.

Pat, thanks for the sleuthing - I'm gonna give your solution a try.

Mary

From:
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:53:57 +0800
To:
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven



Hello Mary,
On 03/06/2011, at 8:47 AM, maryellen jensen wrote:Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary


I did a swift Google and found . The lectures are in reverse order, so 1-3 are at the bottom of the list. Regards,
-- Tim

Just a short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put
on his lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He
brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous
technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings
including paying close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes
for how the piece is to be played, I found that lecture to be one of the
finest I've ever heard. I hope to make my way through the rest of his
fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at
all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred Houpt
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Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven








Just a short
word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on
Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He brings a
Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous technique,
sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings including paying
close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be
played, I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope to
make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a worthwhile
adventure. GG would be pleased at all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred
Houpt_______________________________________________________________________



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Hi Mary et al
The Internet never forgets, with cunning and thinking arond the corners one should at least in theory be able to find almost everything.

I was able to locate some of these lectures as an iTunes podcast here:
http://itunes.apple.com/ch/artist/guardian-co-uk/id136731196

Wether they are complete I cannot say, just scroll down and you should see them, starting at 100.

The podcast directory with the mp3 files can be found here:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=d730cccb2d7eeba1340fac5bfe9065d6&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.ilounge.com%2Ffree-music%2F182817-free-beethoven-piano-sonatas-lecture-recitals-andras-schiff.html&v=1&libid=1307063656513&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Fpodcast%2F0%2C%2C329467939%2C00.xml&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.ch%2Fsearch%3Fsourceid%3Dnavclient%26hl%3Dde%26ie%3DUTF-8%26%26q%3Dschiff%2Bbweethoven%2Blectures&title=Free%20Beethoven%20Piano%20Sonatas%20Lecture-Recitals%20by%20Andras%20Schiff%20-%20iLounge%20Forums&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Fpodcast%2F0%2C%2C329467939%2C00.xml

Just scroll down to the bottom of the page, right-click and choose Save As.

This link should also help I reckon:
http://forums.ilounge.com/free-music/182817-free-beethoven-piano-sonatas-lecture-recitals-andras-schiff.html

If these links still won’t do the trick just let me or us know.

Pat

From: maryellen jensen
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:47 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Just a short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings including paying close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be played, I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope to make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred Houpt
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Hello Mary,

On 03/06/2011, at 8:47 AM, maryellen jensen wrote:

>
> Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
> The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.
>
> http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html
>
> Mary


Try:

It has the first 4 sonatas, and you can find some others if you scroll to the bottom of the page. The link to Wigmore Hall doesn't seem to be working, and I think that's where you will find the complete lectures rather than 1-lecture-per-sonata, as above. Google might help but I've run out of time. Regards,


-- Tim



Hello Mary,

On 03/06/2011, at 8:47 AM, maryellen jensen wrote:

> Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
> The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.
>
> http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html
>
> Mary


I did a swift Google and found . The lectures are in reverse order, so 1-3 are at the bottom of the list. Regards,


-- Tim





Yes, Parts One through Three are at the bottom of the page and they no longer work.

These Beethoven Lectures are not at Wigmore Hall site but Schiff's Haydn lectures are there and they are terrific.

Pat, thanks for the sleuthing - I'm gonna give your solution a try.

Mary

From:
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:53:57 +0800
To:
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven



Hello Mary,
On 03/06/2011, at 8:47 AM, maryellen jensen wrote:Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary


I did a swift Google and found . The lectures are in reverse order, so 1-3 are at the bottom of the list. Regards,
-- Tim



In fact, it is impossible to listen to the first
sonatas in streaming, but I've had no problem in
downloading them from the Guardian site.
Good luck!
Marco



>Once again: If anyone has the now missing first
>three parts to this lecture series will you
>please help out?
>The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards
>the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.
>
>http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html
>
>Mary
>
>
>Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
>From:
>To:
>Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven
>
>Just a short word.....last night as I was
>drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on
>Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be
>missed. He brings a Gouldian depth to his
>insights and coupled with a fabulous technique,
>sensitivities and respect for the ultimate
>"urtext" meanings including paying close
>attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes
>for how the piece is to be played, I found that
>lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard.
>I hope to make my way through the rest of his
>fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure.
>GG would be pleased at all that insight.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Fred Houpt
>_______________________________________________________________________
>
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>confidential, and the sender does not waive
>any related rights and obligations. Any
>distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or
>the information
>it contains by other than an intended recipient is unauthorized.
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>advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise)
>immediately.
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Just a short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put
on his lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He
brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous
technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings
including paying close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes
for how the piece is to be played, I found that lecture to be one of the
finest I've ever heard. I hope to make my way through the rest of his
fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at
all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred Houpt
_______________________________________________________________________

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Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven








Just a short
word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on
Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He brings a
Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous technique,
sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings including paying
close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be
played, I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope to
make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a worthwhile
adventure. GG would be pleased at all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred
Houpt_______________________________________________________________________



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Hi Mary et al
The Internet never forgets, with cunning and thinking arond the corners one should at least in theory be able to find almost everything.

I was able to locate some of these lectures as an iTunes podcast here:
http://itunes.apple.com/ch/artist/guardian-co-uk/id136731196

Wether they are complete I cannot say, just scroll down and you should see them, starting at 100.

The podcast directory with the mp3 files can be found here:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=d730cccb2d7eeba1340fac5bfe9065d6&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.ilounge.com%2Ffree-music%2F182817-free-beethoven-piano-sonatas-lecture-recitals-andras-schiff.html&v=1&libid=1307063656513&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Fpodcast%2F0%2C%2C329467939%2C00.xml&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.ch%2Fsearch%3Fsourceid%3Dnavclient%26hl%3Dde%26ie%3DUTF-8%26%26q%3Dschiff%2Bbweethoven%2Blectures&title=Free%20Beethoven%20Piano%20Sonatas%20Lecture-Recitals%20by%20Andras%20Schiff%20-%20iLounge%20Forums&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Fpodcast%2F0%2C%2C329467939%2C00.xml

Just scroll down to the bottom of the page, right-click and choose Save As.

This link should also help I reckon:
http://forums.ilounge.com/free-music/182817-free-beethoven-piano-sonatas-lecture-recitals-andras-schiff.html

If these links still won’t do the trick just let me or us know.

Pat

From: maryellen jensen
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:47 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Just a short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings including paying close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be played, I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope to make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred Houpt
_______________________________________________________________________

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Hello Mary,

On 03/06/2011, at 8:47 AM, maryellen jensen wrote:

>
> Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
> The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.
>
> http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html
>
> Mary


Try:

It has the first 4 sonatas, and you can find some others if you scroll to the bottom of the page. The link to Wigmore Hall doesn't seem to be working, and I think that's where you will find the complete lectures rather than 1-lecture-per-sonata, as above. Google might help but I've run out of time. Regards,


-- Tim



Hello Mary,

On 03/06/2011, at 8:47 AM, maryellen jensen wrote:

> Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
> The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.
>
> http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html
>
> Mary


I did a swift Google and found . The lectures are in reverse order, so 1-3 are at the bottom of the list. Regards,


-- Tim





Yes, Parts One through Three are at the bottom of the page and they no longer work.

These Beethoven Lectures are not at Wigmore Hall site but Schiff's Haydn lectures are there and they are terrific.

Pat, thanks for the sleuthing - I'm gonna give your solution a try.

Mary

From:
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:53:57 +0800
To:
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven



Hello Mary,
On 03/06/2011, at 8:47 AM, maryellen jensen wrote:Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary


I did a swift Google and found . The lectures are in reverse order, so 1-3 are at the bottom of the list. Regards,
-- Tim



In fact, it is impossible to listen to the first
sonatas in streaming, but I've had no problem in
downloading them from the Guardian site.
Good luck!
Marco



>Once again: If anyone has the now missing first
>three parts to this lecture series will you
>please help out?
>The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards
>the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.
>
>http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html
>
>Mary
>
>
>Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
>From:
>To:
>Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven
>
>Just a short word.....last night as I was
>drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on
>Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be
>missed. He brings a Gouldian depth to his
>insights and coupled with a fabulous technique,
>sensitivities and respect for the ultimate
>"urtext" meanings including paying close
>attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes
>for how the piece is to be played, I found that
>lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard.
>I hope to make my way through the rest of his
>fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure.
>GG would be pleased at all that insight.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Fred Houpt
>_______________________________________________________________________
>
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Marco,

I had thought of that but I didn't give it a try. It makes sense. Thanks for the advice.

The Guardian deserves enormous credit for offering these lectures.

I think The Guardian also still offers a lot of goodies from the Hay Festival of Literature but in
honour of Nuncle allow me to say: be an active sleuth and find the links yourselves.

Mary

Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:00:36 +0200
To:
From:
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven




Message body
In fact, it is impossible to listen to the first sonatas in
streaming, but I've had no problem in downloading them from the
Guardian site.
Good luck!
Marco






Once again: If anyone has the now missing
first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?

The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I
don't know.



http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html



Mary




Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400

From:

To:

Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Just a
short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his
lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be
missed. He brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled
with a fabulous technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate
"urtext" meanings including paying close attention to
Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be played,
I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope
to make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a
worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at all that
insight.

Cheers,

Fred
Houpt
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Just a short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put
on his lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He
brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous
technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings
including paying close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes
for how the piece is to be played, I found that lecture to be one of the
finest I've ever heard. I hope to make my way through the rest of his
fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at
all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred Houpt
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Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven








Just a short
word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on
Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He brings a
Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous technique,
sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings including paying
close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be
played, I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope to
make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a worthwhile
adventure. GG would be pleased at all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred
Houpt_______________________________________________________________________



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Hi Mary et al
The Internet never forgets, with cunning and thinking arond the corners one should at least in theory be able to find almost everything.

I was able to locate some of these lectures as an iTunes podcast here:
http://itunes.apple.com/ch/artist/guardian-co-uk/id136731196

Wether they are complete I cannot say, just scroll down and you should see them, starting at 100.

The podcast directory with the mp3 files can be found here:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=d730cccb2d7eeba1340fac5bfe9065d6&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.ilounge.com%2Ffree-music%2F182817-free-beethoven-piano-sonatas-lecture-recitals-andras-schiff.html&v=1&libid=1307063656513&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Fpodcast%2F0%2C%2C329467939%2C00.xml&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.ch%2Fsearch%3Fsourceid%3Dnavclient%26hl%3Dde%26ie%3DUTF-8%26%26q%3Dschiff%2Bbweethoven%2Blectures&title=Free%20Beethoven%20Piano%20Sonatas%20Lecture-Recitals%20by%20Andras%20Schiff%20-%20iLounge%20Forums&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Fpodcast%2F0%2C%2C329467939%2C00.xml

Just scroll down to the bottom of the page, right-click and choose Save As.

This link should also help I reckon:
http://forums.ilounge.com/free-music/182817-free-beethoven-piano-sonatas-lecture-recitals-andras-schiff.html

If these links still won’t do the trick just let me or us know.

Pat

From: maryellen jensen
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:47 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Just a short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings including paying close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be played, I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope to make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred Houpt
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Hello Mary,

On 03/06/2011, at 8:47 AM, maryellen jensen wrote:

>
> Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
> The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.
>
> http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html
>
> Mary


Try:

It has the first 4 sonatas, and you can find some others if you scroll to the bottom of the page. The link to Wigmore Hall doesn't seem to be working, and I think that's where you will find the complete lectures rather than 1-lecture-per-sonata, as above. Google might help but I've run out of time. Regards,


-- Tim



Hello Mary,

On 03/06/2011, at 8:47 AM, maryellen jensen wrote:

> Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
> The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.
>
> http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html
>
> Mary


I did a swift Google and found . The lectures are in reverse order, so 1-3 are at the bottom of the list. Regards,


-- Tim





Yes, Parts One through Three are at the bottom of the page and they no longer work.

These Beethoven Lectures are not at Wigmore Hall site but Schiff's Haydn lectures are there and they are terrific.

Pat, thanks for the sleuthing - I'm gonna give your solution a try.

Mary

From:
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:53:57 +0800
To:
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven



Hello Mary,
On 03/06/2011, at 8:47 AM, maryellen jensen wrote:Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary


I did a swift Google and found . The lectures are in reverse order, so 1-3 are at the bottom of the list. Regards,
-- Tim



In fact, it is impossible to listen to the first
sonatas in streaming, but I've had no problem in
downloading them from the Guardian site.
Good luck!
Marco



>Once again: If anyone has the now missing first
>three parts to this lecture series will you
>please help out?
>The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards
>the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.
>
>http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html
>
>Mary
>
>
>Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
>From:
>To:
>Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven
>
>Just a short word.....last night as I was
>drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on
>Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be
>missed. He brings a Gouldian depth to his
>insights and coupled with a fabulous technique,
>sensitivities and respect for the ultimate
>"urtext" meanings including paying close
>attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes
>for how the piece is to be played, I found that
>lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard.
>I hope to make my way through the rest of his
>fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure.
>GG would be pleased at all that insight.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Fred Houpt
>_______________________________________________________________________
>
>This e-mail may be privileged and/or
>confidential, and the sender does not waive
>any related rights and obligations. Any
>distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or
>the information
>it contains by other than an intended recipient is unauthorized.
>If you received this e-mail in error, please
>advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise)
>immediately.
>
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>courriel ou des renseignements qu'il contient
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>par retour de courriel ou par un autre moyen.
>


--
Prof. Marco D. Poli

Università di Milano
Dipartimento di Scienze e Tecnologie Biomediche
Sezione di Psicologia
LITA
via F.lli Cervi 93
20090 Segrate - MI
ITALY
phone +39 02 5033 0348
Fax +39 02 5033 0384


Marco,

I had thought of that but I didn't give it a try. It makes sense. Thanks for the advice.

The Guardian deserves enormous credit for offering these lectures.

I think The Guardian also still offers a lot of goodies from the Hay Festival of Literature but in
honour of Nuncle allow me to say: be an active sleuth and find the links yourselves.

Mary

Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:00:36 +0200
To:
From:
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven




Message body
In fact, it is impossible to listen to the first sonatas in
streaming, but I've had no problem in downloading them from the
Guardian site.
Good luck!
Marco






Once again: If anyone has the now missing
first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?

The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I
don't know.



http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html



Mary




Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400

From:

To:

Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Just a
short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his
lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be
missed. He brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled
with a fabulous technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate
"urtext" meanings including paying close attention to
Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be played,
I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope
to make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a
worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at all that
insight.

Cheers,

Fred
Houpt
_______________________________________________________________________



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Sezione di Psicologia

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20090 Segrate - MI

ITALY

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I clicked on the link to the Guardian and parts 1 through 8 of the lecture series are all there.
http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

I'm listening to part 2 of Part One & it's streaming.






-----Original Message-----
From: maryellen jensen <>
To: f_minor <>
Sent: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 3:27 pm
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Marco,

I had thought of that but I didn't give it a try. It makes sense. Thanks for the advice.

The Guardian deserves enormous credit for offering these lectures.

I think The Guardian also still offers a lot of goodies from the Hay Festival of Literature but in
honour of Nuncle allow me to say: be an active sleuth and find the links yourselves.

Mary


Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:00:36 +0200
To:
From:
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


In fact, it is impossible to listen to the first sonatas instreaming, but I've had no problem in downloading them from theGuardian site.
Good luck!
Marco






Once again: If anyone has the now missingfirst three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? Idon't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary



Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven

Just ashort word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on hislecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to bemissed. He brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupledwith a fabulous technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate"urtext" meanings including paying close attention toBeethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be played,I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hopeto make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....aworthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at all thatinsight.

Cheers,

FredHoupt
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Sezione di Psicologia
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ITALY
phone +39 02 5033 0348
Fax +39 02 5033 0384

Just a short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put
on his lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He
brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous
technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings
including paying close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes
for how the piece is to be played, I found that lecture to be one of the
finest I've ever heard. I hope to make my way through the rest of his
fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at
all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred Houpt
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Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven








Just a short
word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on
Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He brings a
Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous technique,
sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings including paying
close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be
played, I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope to
make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a worthwhile
adventure. GG would be pleased at all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred
Houpt_______________________________________________________________________



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Hi Mary et al
The Internet never forgets, with cunning and thinking arond the corners one should at least in theory be able to find almost everything.

I was able to locate some of these lectures as an iTunes podcast here:
http://itunes.apple.com/ch/artist/guardian-co-uk/id136731196

Wether they are complete I cannot say, just scroll down and you should see them, starting at 100.

The podcast directory with the mp3 files can be found here:
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=d730cccb2d7eeba1340fac5bfe9065d6&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.ilounge.com%2Ffree-music%2F182817-free-beethoven-piano-sonatas-lecture-recitals-andras-schiff.html&v=1&libid=1307063656513&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Fpodcast%2F0%2C%2C329467939%2C00.xml&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.ch%2Fsearch%3Fsourceid%3Dnavclient%26hl%3Dde%26ie%3DUTF-8%26%26q%3Dschiff%2Bbweethoven%2Blectures&title=Free%20Beethoven%20Piano%20Sonatas%20Lecture-Recitals%20by%20Andras%20Schiff%20-%20iLounge%20Forums&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guardian.co.uk%2Fpodcast%2F0%2C%2C329467939%2C00.xml

Just scroll down to the bottom of the page, right-click and choose Save As.

This link should also help I reckon:
http://forums.ilounge.com/free-music/182817-free-beethoven-piano-sonatas-lecture-recitals-andras-schiff.html

If these links still won’t do the trick just let me or us know.

Pat

From: maryellen jensen
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:47 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Just a short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings including paying close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be played, I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope to make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred Houpt
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Hello Mary,

On 03/06/2011, at 8:47 AM, maryellen jensen wrote:

>
> Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
> The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.
>
> http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html
>
> Mary


Try:

It has the first 4 sonatas, and you can find some others if you scroll to the bottom of the page. The link to Wigmore Hall doesn't seem to be working, and I think that's where you will find the complete lectures rather than 1-lecture-per-sonata, as above. Google might help but I've run out of time. Regards,


-- Tim



Hello Mary,

On 03/06/2011, at 8:47 AM, maryellen jensen wrote:

> Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
> The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.
>
> http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html
>
> Mary


I did a swift Google and found . The lectures are in reverse order, so 1-3 are at the bottom of the list. Regards,


-- Tim





Yes, Parts One through Three are at the bottom of the page and they no longer work.

These Beethoven Lectures are not at Wigmore Hall site but Schiff's Haydn lectures are there and they are terrific.

Pat, thanks for the sleuthing - I'm gonna give your solution a try.

Mary

From:
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 10:53:57 +0800
To:
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven



Hello Mary,
On 03/06/2011, at 8:47 AM, maryellen jensen wrote:Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary


I did a swift Google and found . The lectures are in reverse order, so 1-3 are at the bottom of the list. Regards,
-- Tim



In fact, it is impossible to listen to the first
sonatas in streaming, but I've had no problem in
downloading them from the Guardian site.
Good luck!
Marco



>Once again: If anyone has the now missing first
>three parts to this lecture series will you
>please help out?
>The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards
>the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.
>
>http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html
>
>Mary
>
>
>Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
>From:
>To:
>Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven
>
>Just a short word.....last night as I was
>drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on
>Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be
>missed. He brings a Gouldian depth to his
>insights and coupled with a fabulous technique,
>sensitivities and respect for the ultimate
>"urtext" meanings including paying close
>attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes
>for how the piece is to be played, I found that
>lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard.
>I hope to make my way through the rest of his
>fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure.
>GG would be pleased at all that insight.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Fred Houpt
>_______________________________________________________________________
>
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>distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or
>the information
>it contains by other than an intended recipient is unauthorized.
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>advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise)
>immediately.
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Marco,

I had thought of that but I didn't give it a try. It makes sense. Thanks for the advice.

The Guardian deserves enormous credit for offering these lectures.

I think The Guardian also still offers a lot of goodies from the Hay Festival of Literature but in
honour of Nuncle allow me to say: be an active sleuth and find the links yourselves.

Mary

Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:00:36 +0200
To:
From:
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven




Message body
In fact, it is impossible to listen to the first sonatas in
streaming, but I've had no problem in downloading them from the
Guardian site.
Good luck!
Marco






Once again: If anyone has the now missing
first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?

The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I
don't know.



http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html



Mary




Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400

From:

To:

Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Just a
short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his
lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be
missed. He brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled
with a fabulous technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate
"urtext" meanings including paying close attention to
Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be played,
I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope
to make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a
worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at all that
insight.

Cheers,

Fred
Houpt
_______________________________________________________________________



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I clicked on the link to the Guardian and parts 1 through 8 of the lecture series are all there.
http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

I'm listening to part 2 of Part One & it's streaming.






-----Original Message-----
From: maryellen jensen <>
To: f_minor <>
Sent: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 3:27 pm
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Marco,

I had thought of that but I didn't give it a try. It makes sense. Thanks for the advice.

The Guardian deserves enormous credit for offering these lectures.

I think The Guardian also still offers a lot of goodies from the Hay Festival of Literature but in
honour of Nuncle allow me to say: be an active sleuth and find the links yourselves.

Mary


Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:00:36 +0200
To:
From:
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


In fact, it is impossible to listen to the first sonatas instreaming, but I've had no problem in downloading them from theGuardian site.
Good luck!
Marco






Once again: If anyone has the now missingfirst three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? Idon't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary



Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven

Just ashort word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on hislecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to bemissed. He brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupledwith a fabulous technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate"urtext" meanings including paying close attention toBeethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be played,I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hopeto make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....aworthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at all thatinsight.

Cheers,

FredHoupt
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They all work via "streaming" too indeed, it's a matter of browser, make sure to use Firefox or Chrome latest versions, 'cause with older browsers like IE7you have to wait the file is fully downloaded in the cache before the mp3 player page opens (first time only of course until you will delete the cache) and depending on your connection speed it can require several minutes ;)
----- Original Message -----
From: Sauertieg
To:
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


I clicked on the link to the Guardian and parts 1 through 8 of the lecture series are all there.
http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

I'm listening to part 2 of Part One & it's streaming.





-----Original Message-----
From: maryellen jensen <>
To: f_minor <>
Sent: Fri, Jun 3, 2011 3:27 pm
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


Marco,

I had thought of that but I didn't give it a try. It makes sense. Thanks for the advice.

The Guardian deserves enormous credit for offering these lectures.

I think The Guardian also still offers a lot of goodies from the Hay Festival of Literature but in
honour of Nuncle allow me to say: be an active sleuth and find the links yourselves.

Mary


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Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:00:36 +0200
To:
From:
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven


In fact, it is impossible to listen to the first sonatas in streaming, but I've had no problem in downloading them from the Guardian site.
Good luck!
Marco






Once again: If anyone has the now missing first three parts to this lecture series will you please help out?
The Guardian site begins at Part Four: Towards the Pastoral. Why? I don't know.

http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Mary


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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:23:32 -0400
From:
To:
Subject: [f_minor] Andras Schiff on Beethoven

Just a short word.....last night as I was drifting off to sleep, I put on his lecture on Beethoven's "Waldstein". It is not to be missed. He brings a Gouldian depth to his insights and coupled with a fabulous technique, sensitivities and respect for the ultimate "urtext" meanings including paying close attention to Beethoven's own hand written notes for how the piece is to be played, I found that lecture to be one of the finest I've ever heard. I hope to make my way through the rest of his fascinating lectures....a worthwhile adventure. GG would be pleased at all that insight.

Cheers,

Fred Houpt
_______________________________________________________________________

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--
Prof. Marco D. Poli

Università di Milano
Dipartimento di Scienze e Tecnologie Biomediche
Sezione di Psicologia
LITA
via F.lli Cervi 93
20090 Segrate - MI
ITALY
phone +39 02 5033 0348
Fax +39 02 5033 0384





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