I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.

I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.

Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)

Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet

Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)

Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.

The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.

I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.

All ideas would be appreciated.

JayArr




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I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.

I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.

Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)

Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet

Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)

Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.

The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.

I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.

All ideas would be appreciated.

JayArr




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If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)

> I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
>
> I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>
> Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
>
> Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>
> Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
>
> Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
>
> The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
>
> I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
>
> All ideas would be appreciated.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>

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I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.

I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.

Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)

Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet

Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)

Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.

The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.

I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.

All ideas would be appreciated.

JayArr




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If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)

> I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
>
> I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>
> Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
>
> Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>
> Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
>
> Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
>
> The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
>
> I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
>
> All ideas would be appreciated.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>

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Hi Paul

Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.

JayArr


> If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
>
> > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> >
> > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> >
> > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> >
> > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> >
> > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> >
> > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> >
> > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> >
> > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> >
> > All ideas would be appreciated.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.

I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.

Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)

Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet

Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)

Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.

The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.

I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.

All ideas would be appreciated.

JayArr




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If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)

> I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
>
> I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>
> Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
>
> Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>
> Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
>
> Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
>
> The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
>
> I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
>
> All ideas would be appreciated.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>

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Hi Paul

Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.

JayArr


> If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
>
> > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> >
> > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> >
> > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> >
> > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> >
> > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> >
> > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> >
> > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> >
> > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> >
> > All ideas would be appreciated.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> Hi Paul
>
> Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
>
> JayArr
>
>
> > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> >
> > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > >
> > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > >
> > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > >
> > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > >
> > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > >
> > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > >
> > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > >
> > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > >
> > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.

I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.

Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)

Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet

Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)

Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.

The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.

I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.

All ideas would be appreciated.

JayArr




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If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)

> I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
>
> I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>
> Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
>
> Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>
> Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
>
> Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
>
> The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
>
> I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
>
> All ideas would be appreciated.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>

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Hi Paul

Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.

JayArr


> If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
>
> > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> >
> > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> >
> > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> >
> > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> >
> > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> >
> > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> >
> > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> >
> > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> >
> > All ideas would be appreciated.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> Hi Paul
>
> Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
>
> JayArr
>
>
> > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> >
> > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > >
> > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > >
> > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > >
> > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > >
> > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > >
> > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > >
> > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > >
> > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > >
> > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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Hi Paul

>From the working unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.3"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
*Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
*Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.3
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"

>From the new, broken unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.4"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
*Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.4
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en"

JayArr

> Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > >
> > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > >
> > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > >
> > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > >
> > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > >
> > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > >
> > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > >
> > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > >
> > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > >
> > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.

I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.

Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)

Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet

Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)

Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.

The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.

I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.

All ideas would be appreciated.

JayArr




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If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)

> I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
>
> I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>
> Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
>
> Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>
> Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
>
> Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
>
> The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
>
> I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
>
> All ideas would be appreciated.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>

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Hi Paul

Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.

JayArr


> If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
>
> > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> >
> > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> >
> > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> >
> > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> >
> > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> >
> > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> >
> > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> >
> > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> >
> > All ideas would be appreciated.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> Hi Paul
>
> Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
>
> JayArr
>
>
> > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> >
> > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > >
> > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > >
> > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > >
> > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > >
> > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > >
> > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > >
> > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > >
> > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > >
> > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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Hi Paul

>From the working unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.3"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
*Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
*Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.3
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"

>From the new, broken unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.4"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
*Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.4
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en"

JayArr

> Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > >
> > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > >
> > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > >
> > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > >
> > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > >
> > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > >
> > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > >
> > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > >
> > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > >
> > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.

> Hi Paul
>
> From the working unit:
>
> *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> *FileVersion: "1.3"
> *LanguageVersion: English
> *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> *Manufacturer: "HP"
> *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> *LanguageLevel: "3"
> *ColorDevice: False
> *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> *FileSystem: False
> *Throughput: "8"
> *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> *TTRasterizer: Type42
> *% Driver-defined attributes...
> *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> *cupsVersion: 1.3
> *cupsModelNumber: 0
> *cupsManualCopies: False
> *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
>
> From the new, broken unit:
>
> *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> *FileVersion: "1.4"
> *LanguageVersion: English
> *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> *Manufacturer: "HP"
> *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> *LanguageLevel: "3"
> *ColorDevice: False
> *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> *FileSystem: False
> *Throughput: "8"
> *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> *TTRasterizer: Type42
> *% Driver-defined attributes...
> *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> *cupsVersion: 1.4
> *cupsModelNumber: 0
> *cupsManualCopies: False
> *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> *cupsLanguages: "en"
>
> JayArr
>
> > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > Hi Paul
> > >
> > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > >
> > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > >
> > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > >
> > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > >
> > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > >
> > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > >
> > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > JayArr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.

I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.

Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)

Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet

Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)

Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.

The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.

I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.

All ideas would be appreciated.

JayArr




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If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)

> I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
>
> I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>
> Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
>
> Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>
> Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
>
> Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
>
> The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
>
> I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
>
> All ideas would be appreciated.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>

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Hi Paul

Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.

JayArr


> If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
>
> > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> >
> > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> >
> > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> >
> > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> >
> > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> >
> > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> >
> > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> >
> > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> >
> > All ideas would be appreciated.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> Hi Paul
>
> Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
>
> JayArr
>
>
> > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> >
> > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > >
> > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > >
> > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > >
> > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > >
> > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > >
> > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > >
> > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > >
> > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > >
> > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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Hi Paul

>From the working unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.3"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
*Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
*Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.3
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"

>From the new, broken unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.4"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
*Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.4
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en"

JayArr

> Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > >
> > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > >
> > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > >
> > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > >
> > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > >
> > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > >
> > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > >
> > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > >
> > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > >
> > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.

> Hi Paul
>
> From the working unit:
>
> *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> *FileVersion: "1.3"
> *LanguageVersion: English
> *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> *Manufacturer: "HP"
> *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> *LanguageLevel: "3"
> *ColorDevice: False
> *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> *FileSystem: False
> *Throughput: "8"
> *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> *TTRasterizer: Type42
> *% Driver-defined attributes...
> *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> *cupsVersion: 1.3
> *cupsModelNumber: 0
> *cupsManualCopies: False
> *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
>
> From the new, broken unit:
>
> *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> *FileVersion: "1.4"
> *LanguageVersion: English
> *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> *Manufacturer: "HP"
> *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> *LanguageLevel: "3"
> *ColorDevice: False
> *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> *FileSystem: False
> *Throughput: "8"
> *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> *TTRasterizer: Type42
> *% Driver-defined attributes...
> *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> *cupsVersion: 1.4
> *cupsModelNumber: 0
> *cupsManualCopies: False
> *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> *cupsLanguages: "en"
>
> JayArr
>
> > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > Hi Paul
> > >
> > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > >
> > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > >
> > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > >
> > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > >
> > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > >
> > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > >
> > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > JayArr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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Thanks Paul

I've tried a few other things.

I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder. This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.

Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it isn't a .ppd problem right?

I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.

That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.

JayArr



> I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.
>
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > From the working unit:
> >
> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > *FileVersion: "1.3"
> > *LanguageVersion: English
> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > *ColorDevice: False
> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > *FileSystem: False
> > *Throughput: "8"
> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > *cupsVersion: 1.3
> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
> >
> > From the new, broken unit:
> >
> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > *FileVersion: "1.4"
> > *LanguageVersion: English
> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > *ColorDevice: False
> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > *FileSystem: False
> > *Throughput: "8"
> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > *cupsVersion: 1.4
> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > *cupsLanguages: "en"
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > > Hi Paul
> > > >
> > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.

I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.

Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)

Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet

Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)

Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.

The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.

I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.

All ideas would be appreciated.

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If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)

> I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
>
> I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>
> Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
>
> Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>
> Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
>
> Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
>
> The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
>
> I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
>
> All ideas would be appreciated.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>

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Hi Paul

Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.

JayArr


> If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
>
> > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> >
> > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> >
> > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> >
> > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> >
> > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> >
> > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> >
> > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> >
> > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> >
> > All ideas would be appreciated.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> Hi Paul
>
> Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
>
> JayArr
>
>
> > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> >
> > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > >
> > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > >
> > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > >
> > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > >
> > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > >
> > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > >
> > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > >
> > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > >
> > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Hi Paul

>From the working unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.3"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
*Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
*Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.3
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"

>From the new, broken unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.4"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
*Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.4
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en"

JayArr

> Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > >
> > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > >
> > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > >
> > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > >
> > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > >
> > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > >
> > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > >
> > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > >
> > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > >
> > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.

> Hi Paul
>
> From the working unit:
>
> *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> *FileVersion: "1.3"
> *LanguageVersion: English
> *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> *Manufacturer: "HP"
> *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> *LanguageLevel: "3"
> *ColorDevice: False
> *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> *FileSystem: False
> *Throughput: "8"
> *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> *TTRasterizer: Type42
> *% Driver-defined attributes...
> *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> *cupsVersion: 1.3
> *cupsModelNumber: 0
> *cupsManualCopies: False
> *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
>
> From the new, broken unit:
>
> *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> *FileVersion: "1.4"
> *LanguageVersion: English
> *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> *Manufacturer: "HP"
> *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> *LanguageLevel: "3"
> *ColorDevice: False
> *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> *FileSystem: False
> *Throughput: "8"
> *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> *TTRasterizer: Type42
> *% Driver-defined attributes...
> *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> *cupsVersion: 1.4
> *cupsModelNumber: 0
> *cupsManualCopies: False
> *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> *cupsLanguages: "en"
>
> JayArr
>
> > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > Hi Paul
> > >
> > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > >
> > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > >
> > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > >
> > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > >
> > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > >
> > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > >
> > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > JayArr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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Thanks Paul

I've tried a few other things.

I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder. This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.

Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it isn't a .ppd problem right?

I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.

That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.

JayArr



> I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.
>
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > From the working unit:
> >
> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > *FileVersion: "1.3"
> > *LanguageVersion: English
> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > *ColorDevice: False
> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > *FileSystem: False
> > *Throughput: "8"
> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > *cupsVersion: 1.3
> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
> >
> > From the new, broken unit:
> >
> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > *FileVersion: "1.4"
> > *LanguageVersion: English
> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > *ColorDevice: False
> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > *FileSystem: False
> > *Throughput: "8"
> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > *cupsVersion: 1.4
> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > *cupsLanguages: "en"
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > > Hi Paul
> > > >
> > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Jeff wrote:

> Thanks Paul
>
> I've tried a few other things.
>
> I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no
> change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top
> tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder.
> This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.
>
> Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if
> the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it
> isn't a .ppd problem right?
>
> I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting
> the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.
>
> That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between
> CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>> I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it
>> tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text
>> file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff
>> them.
>>
>> > Hi Paul
>> >
>> > From the working unit:
>> >
>> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
>> > *FileVersion: "1.3"
>> > *LanguageVersion: English
>> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
>> > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
>> > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
>> > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
>> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
>> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
>> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
>> > *ColorDevice: False
>> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
>> > *FileSystem: False
>> > *Throughput: "8"
>> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
>> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
>> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
>> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
>> > *cupsVersion: 1.3
>> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
>> > *cupsManualCopies: False
>> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
>> > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR
>> > ru sv zh zh_TW"
>> >
>> > From the new, broken unit:
>> >
>> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
>> > *FileVersion: "1.4"
>> > *LanguageVersion: English
>> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
>> > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
>> > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
>> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
>> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
>> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
>> > *ColorDevice: False
>> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
>> > *FileSystem: False
>> > *Throughput: "8"
>> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
>> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
>> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
>> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
>> > *cupsVersion: 1.4
>> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
>> > *cupsManualCopies: False
>> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
>> > *cupsLanguages: "en"
>> >
>> > JayArr
>> >
>> > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines
>> > > referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
>> > > > Hi Paul
>> > > >
>> > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1
>> > > > even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
>> > > >
>> > > > JayArr
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
>> > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've
>> > > > > noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was
>> > > > > > 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two
>> > > > > > trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white
>> > > > > > paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two
>> > > > > > (lower) for the accounting software.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster
>> > > > > > single sheet feed)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting
>> > > > > > software.)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not
>> > > > > > duplex.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now
>> > > > > > broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is
>> > > > > > specified in the ppd file.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL
>> > > > > > 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp
>> > > > > > filter.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > JayArr
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>

As both PPDs you told about specify using the rastertohp filter, I looked
into the sources of both the 1.3.5 and the 1.4.5 release of the rasterrohp
filter and see no differences with repsect to MediaPosition (aka tray
number) handling.
That leads me to the suspicion that the raster generating filter used in
your 1.4 configuration probably is the culprit in that it fails to specify
the media position in the raster header.
As the pstoraster or pdftoraster filter is part of Ghostscript (since the
ESP Ghostscript has been merged into GPL Ghostscript a couple of years ago),
which Ghostscript releases are you using in both environments?

Helge

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I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.

I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.

Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)

Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet

Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)

Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.

The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.

I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.

All ideas would be appreciated.

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If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)

> I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
>
> I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>
> Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
>
> Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>
> Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
>
> Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
>
> The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
>
> I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
>
> All ideas would be appreciated.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>

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Hi Paul

Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.

JayArr


> If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
>
> > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> >
> > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> >
> > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> >
> > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> >
> > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> >
> > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> >
> > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> >
> > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> >
> > All ideas would be appreciated.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> Hi Paul
>
> Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
>
> JayArr
>
>
> > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> >
> > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > >
> > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > >
> > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > >
> > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > >
> > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > >
> > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > >
> > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > >
> > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > >
> > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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Hi Paul

>From the working unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.3"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
*Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
*Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.3
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"

>From the new, broken unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.4"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
*Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.4
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en"

JayArr

> Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > >
> > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > >
> > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > >
> > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > >
> > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > >
> > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > >
> > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > >
> > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > >
> > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > >
> > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.

> Hi Paul
>
> From the working unit:
>
> *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> *FileVersion: "1.3"
> *LanguageVersion: English
> *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> *Manufacturer: "HP"
> *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> *LanguageLevel: "3"
> *ColorDevice: False
> *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> *FileSystem: False
> *Throughput: "8"
> *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> *TTRasterizer: Type42
> *% Driver-defined attributes...
> *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> *cupsVersion: 1.3
> *cupsModelNumber: 0
> *cupsManualCopies: False
> *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
>
> From the new, broken unit:
>
> *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> *FileVersion: "1.4"
> *LanguageVersion: English
> *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> *Manufacturer: "HP"
> *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> *LanguageLevel: "3"
> *ColorDevice: False
> *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> *FileSystem: False
> *Throughput: "8"
> *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> *TTRasterizer: Type42
> *% Driver-defined attributes...
> *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> *cupsVersion: 1.4
> *cupsModelNumber: 0
> *cupsManualCopies: False
> *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> *cupsLanguages: "en"
>
> JayArr
>
> > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > Hi Paul
> > >
> > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > >
> > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > >
> > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > >
> > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > >
> > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > >
> > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > >
> > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > JayArr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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Thanks Paul

I've tried a few other things.

I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder. This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.

Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it isn't a .ppd problem right?

I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.

That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.

JayArr



> I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.
>
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > From the working unit:
> >
> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > *FileVersion: "1.3"
> > *LanguageVersion: English
> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > *ColorDevice: False
> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > *FileSystem: False
> > *Throughput: "8"
> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > *cupsVersion: 1.3
> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
> >
> > From the new, broken unit:
> >
> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > *FileVersion: "1.4"
> > *LanguageVersion: English
> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > *ColorDevice: False
> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > *FileSystem: False
> > *Throughput: "8"
> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > *cupsVersion: 1.4
> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > *cupsLanguages: "en"
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > > Hi Paul
> > > >
> > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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Jeff wrote:

> Thanks Paul
>
> I've tried a few other things.
>
> I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no
> change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top
> tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder.
> This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.
>
> Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if
> the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it
> isn't a .ppd problem right?
>
> I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting
> the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.
>
> That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between
> CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>> I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it
>> tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text
>> file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff
>> them.
>>
>> > Hi Paul
>> >
>> > From the working unit:
>> >
>> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
>> > *FileVersion: "1.3"
>> > *LanguageVersion: English
>> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
>> > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
>> > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
>> > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
>> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
>> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
>> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
>> > *ColorDevice: False
>> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
>> > *FileSystem: False
>> > *Throughput: "8"
>> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
>> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
>> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
>> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
>> > *cupsVersion: 1.3
>> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
>> > *cupsManualCopies: False
>> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
>> > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR
>> > ru sv zh zh_TW"
>> >
>> > From the new, broken unit:
>> >
>> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
>> > *FileVersion: "1.4"
>> > *LanguageVersion: English
>> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
>> > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
>> > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
>> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
>> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
>> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
>> > *ColorDevice: False
>> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
>> > *FileSystem: False
>> > *Throughput: "8"
>> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
>> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
>> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
>> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
>> > *cupsVersion: 1.4
>> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
>> > *cupsManualCopies: False
>> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
>> > *cupsLanguages: "en"
>> >
>> > JayArr
>> >
>> > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines
>> > > referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
>> > > > Hi Paul
>> > > >
>> > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1
>> > > > even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
>> > > >
>> > > > JayArr
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
>> > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've
>> > > > > noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was
>> > > > > > 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two
>> > > > > > trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white
>> > > > > > paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two
>> > > > > > (lower) for the accounting software.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster
>> > > > > > single sheet feed)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting
>> > > > > > software.)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not
>> > > > > > duplex.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now
>> > > > > > broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is
>> > > > > > specified in the ppd file.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL
>> > > > > > 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp
>> > > > > > filter.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > JayArr
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>

As both PPDs you told about specify using the rastertohp filter, I looked
into the sources of both the 1.3.5 and the 1.4.5 release of the rasterrohp
filter and see no differences with repsect to MediaPosition (aka tray
number) handling.
That leads me to the suspicion that the raster generating filter used in
your 1.4 configuration probably is the culprit in that it fails to specify
the media position in the raster header.
As the pstoraster or pdftoraster filter is part of Ghostscript (since the
ESP Ghostscript has been merged into GPL Ghostscript a couple of years ago),
which Ghostscript releases are you using in both environments?

Helge

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I was referring more to diffing the output, not the PPD files.


> Thanks Paul
>
> I've tried a few other things.
>
> I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder. This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.
>
> Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it isn't a .ppd problem right?
>
> I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.
>
> That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
> > I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.
> >
> > > Hi Paul
> > >
> > > From the working unit:
> > >
> > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > *FileVersion: "1.3"
> > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> > > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> > > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > *FileSystem: False
> > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > *cupsVersion: 1.3
> > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
> > >
> > > From the new, broken unit:
> > >
> > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > *FileVersion: "1.4"
> > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> > > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > *FileSystem: False
> > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > *cupsVersion: 1.4
> > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > *cupsLanguages: "en"
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > > > Hi Paul
> > > > >
> > > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > > > >
> > > > > JayArr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.

I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.

Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)

Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet

Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)

Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.

The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.

I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.

All ideas would be appreciated.

JayArr




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If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)

> I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
>
> I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>
> Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
>
> Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>
> Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
>
> Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
>
> The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
>
> I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
>
> All ideas would be appreciated.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>

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Hi Paul

Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.

JayArr


> If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
>
> > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> >
> > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> >
> > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> >
> > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> >
> > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> >
> > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> >
> > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> >
> > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> >
> > All ideas would be appreciated.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> Hi Paul
>
> Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
>
> JayArr
>
>
> > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> >
> > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > >
> > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > >
> > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > >
> > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > >
> > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > >
> > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > >
> > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > >
> > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > >
> > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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Hi Paul

>From the working unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.3"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
*Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
*Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.3
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"

>From the new, broken unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.4"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
*Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.4
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en"

JayArr

> Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > >
> > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > >
> > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > >
> > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > >
> > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > >
> > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > >
> > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > >
> > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > >
> > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > >
> > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.

> Hi Paul
>
> From the working unit:
>
> *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> *FileVersion: "1.3"
> *LanguageVersion: English
> *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> *Manufacturer: "HP"
> *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> *LanguageLevel: "3"
> *ColorDevice: False
> *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> *FileSystem: False
> *Throughput: "8"
> *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> *TTRasterizer: Type42
> *% Driver-defined attributes...
> *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> *cupsVersion: 1.3
> *cupsModelNumber: 0
> *cupsManualCopies: False
> *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
>
> From the new, broken unit:
>
> *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> *FileVersion: "1.4"
> *LanguageVersion: English
> *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> *Manufacturer: "HP"
> *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> *LanguageLevel: "3"
> *ColorDevice: False
> *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> *FileSystem: False
> *Throughput: "8"
> *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> *TTRasterizer: Type42
> *% Driver-defined attributes...
> *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> *cupsVersion: 1.4
> *cupsModelNumber: 0
> *cupsManualCopies: False
> *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> *cupsLanguages: "en"
>
> JayArr
>
> > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > Hi Paul
> > >
> > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > >
> > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > >
> > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > >
> > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > >
> > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > >
> > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > >
> > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > JayArr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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Thanks Paul

I've tried a few other things.

I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder. This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.

Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it isn't a .ppd problem right?

I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.

That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.

JayArr



> I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.
>
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > From the working unit:
> >
> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > *FileVersion: "1.3"
> > *LanguageVersion: English
> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > *ColorDevice: False
> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > *FileSystem: False
> > *Throughput: "8"
> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > *cupsVersion: 1.3
> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
> >
> > From the new, broken unit:
> >
> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > *FileVersion: "1.4"
> > *LanguageVersion: English
> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > *ColorDevice: False
> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > *FileSystem: False
> > *Throughput: "8"
> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > *cupsVersion: 1.4
> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > *cupsLanguages: "en"
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > > Hi Paul
> > > >
> > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Jeff wrote:

> Thanks Paul
>
> I've tried a few other things.
>
> I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no
> change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top
> tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder.
> This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.
>
> Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if
> the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it
> isn't a .ppd problem right?
>
> I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting
> the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.
>
> That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between
> CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>> I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it
>> tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text
>> file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff
>> them.
>>
>> > Hi Paul
>> >
>> > From the working unit:
>> >
>> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
>> > *FileVersion: "1.3"
>> > *LanguageVersion: English
>> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
>> > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
>> > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
>> > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
>> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
>> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
>> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
>> > *ColorDevice: False
>> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
>> > *FileSystem: False
>> > *Throughput: "8"
>> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
>> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
>> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
>> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
>> > *cupsVersion: 1.3
>> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
>> > *cupsManualCopies: False
>> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
>> > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR
>> > ru sv zh zh_TW"
>> >
>> > From the new, broken unit:
>> >
>> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
>> > *FileVersion: "1.4"
>> > *LanguageVersion: English
>> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
>> > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
>> > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
>> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
>> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
>> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
>> > *ColorDevice: False
>> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
>> > *FileSystem: False
>> > *Throughput: "8"
>> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
>> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
>> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
>> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
>> > *cupsVersion: 1.4
>> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
>> > *cupsManualCopies: False
>> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
>> > *cupsLanguages: "en"
>> >
>> > JayArr
>> >
>> > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines
>> > > referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
>> > > > Hi Paul
>> > > >
>> > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1
>> > > > even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
>> > > >
>> > > > JayArr
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
>> > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've
>> > > > > noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was
>> > > > > > 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two
>> > > > > > trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white
>> > > > > > paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two
>> > > > > > (lower) for the accounting software.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster
>> > > > > > single sheet feed)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting
>> > > > > > software.)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not
>> > > > > > duplex.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now
>> > > > > > broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is
>> > > > > > specified in the ppd file.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL
>> > > > > > 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp
>> > > > > > filter.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > JayArr
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>

As both PPDs you told about specify using the rastertohp filter, I looked
into the sources of both the 1.3.5 and the 1.4.5 release of the rasterrohp
filter and see no differences with repsect to MediaPosition (aka tray
number) handling.
That leads me to the suspicion that the raster generating filter used in
your 1.4 configuration probably is the culprit in that it fails to specify
the media position in the raster header.
As the pstoraster or pdftoraster filter is part of Ghostscript (since the
ESP Ghostscript has been merged into GPL Ghostscript a couple of years ago),
which Ghostscript releases are you using in both environments?

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I was referring more to diffing the output, not the PPD files.


> Thanks Paul
>
> I've tried a few other things.
>
> I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder. This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.
>
> Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it isn't a .ppd problem right?
>
> I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.
>
> That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
> > I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.
> >
> > > Hi Paul
> > >
> > > From the working unit:
> > >
> > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > *FileVersion: "1.3"
> > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> > > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> > > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > *FileSystem: False
> > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > *cupsVersion: 1.3
> > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
> > >
> > > From the new, broken unit:
> > >
> > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > *FileVersion: "1.4"
> > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> > > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > *FileSystem: False
> > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > *cupsVersion: 1.4
> > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > *cupsLanguages: "en"
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > > > Hi Paul
> > > > >
> > > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > > > >
> > > > > JayArr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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Well, this may take me a little longer to test...

with 1.4.6 the mime.types and mime.convs appear to have moved, but when I found them, i don't see an issue. whenever I lp any type of file (text or postscript) it says unsupported format. looking through the PPD and mime.convs file, I see a path to get there, but i can't figure out why it isn't getting there. we're mostly a RAW shop but I'll keep playing with it and let you know.

> I was referring more to diffing the output, not the PPD files.
>
>
> > Thanks Paul
> >
> > I've tried a few other things.
> >
> > I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder. This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.
> >
> > Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it isn't a .ppd problem right?
> >
> > I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.
> >
> > That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> >
> > > I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.
> > >
> > > > Hi Paul
> > > >
> > > > From the working unit:
> > > >
> > > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > > *FileVersion: "1.3"
> > > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> > > > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> > > > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> > > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> > > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> > > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> > > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > > *FileSystem: False
> > > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > > *cupsVersion: 1.3
> > > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
> > > >
> > > > From the new, broken unit:
> > > >
> > > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > > *FileVersion: "1.4"
> > > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> > > > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> > > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> > > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > > *FileSystem: False
> > > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > > *cupsVersion: 1.4
> > > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > > *cupsLanguages: "en"
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > > > > Hi Paul
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.

I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.

Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)

Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet

Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)

Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.

The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.

I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.

All ideas would be appreciated.

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If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)

> I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
>
> I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>
> Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
>
> Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>
> Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
>
> Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
>
> The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
>
> I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
>
> All ideas would be appreciated.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>

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Hi Paul

Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.

JayArr


> If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
>
> > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> >
> > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> >
> > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> >
> > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> >
> > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> >
> > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> >
> > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> >
> > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> >
> > All ideas would be appreciated.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> Hi Paul
>
> Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
>
> JayArr
>
>
> > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> >
> > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > >
> > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > >
> > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > >
> > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > >
> > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > >
> > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > >
> > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > >
> > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > >
> > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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>From the working unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.3"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
*Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
*Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.3
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"

>From the new, broken unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.4"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
*Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.4
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en"

JayArr

> Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > >
> > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > >
> > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > >
> > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > >
> > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > >
> > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > >
> > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > >
> > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > >
> > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > >
> > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.

> Hi Paul
>
> From the working unit:
>
> *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> *FileVersion: "1.3"
> *LanguageVersion: English
> *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> *Manufacturer: "HP"
> *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> *LanguageLevel: "3"
> *ColorDevice: False
> *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> *FileSystem: False
> *Throughput: "8"
> *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> *TTRasterizer: Type42
> *% Driver-defined attributes...
> *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> *cupsVersion: 1.3
> *cupsModelNumber: 0
> *cupsManualCopies: False
> *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
>
> From the new, broken unit:
>
> *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> *FileVersion: "1.4"
> *LanguageVersion: English
> *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> *Manufacturer: "HP"
> *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> *LanguageLevel: "3"
> *ColorDevice: False
> *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> *FileSystem: False
> *Throughput: "8"
> *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> *TTRasterizer: Type42
> *% Driver-defined attributes...
> *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> *cupsVersion: 1.4
> *cupsModelNumber: 0
> *cupsManualCopies: False
> *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> *cupsLanguages: "en"
>
> JayArr
>
> > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > Hi Paul
> > >
> > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > >
> > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > >
> > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > >
> > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > >
> > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > >
> > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > >
> > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > JayArr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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Thanks Paul

I've tried a few other things.

I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder. This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.

Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it isn't a .ppd problem right?

I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.

That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.

JayArr



> I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.
>
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > From the working unit:
> >
> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > *FileVersion: "1.3"
> > *LanguageVersion: English
> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > *ColorDevice: False
> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > *FileSystem: False
> > *Throughput: "8"
> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > *cupsVersion: 1.3
> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
> >
> > From the new, broken unit:
> >
> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > *FileVersion: "1.4"
> > *LanguageVersion: English
> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > *ColorDevice: False
> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > *FileSystem: False
> > *Throughput: "8"
> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > *cupsVersion: 1.4
> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > *cupsLanguages: "en"
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > > Hi Paul
> > > >
> > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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Jeff wrote:

> Thanks Paul
>
> I've tried a few other things.
>
> I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no
> change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top
> tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder.
> This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.
>
> Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if
> the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it
> isn't a .ppd problem right?
>
> I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting
> the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.
>
> That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between
> CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>> I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it
>> tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text
>> file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff
>> them.
>>
>> > Hi Paul
>> >
>> > From the working unit:
>> >
>> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
>> > *FileVersion: "1.3"
>> > *LanguageVersion: English
>> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
>> > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
>> > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
>> > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
>> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
>> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
>> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
>> > *ColorDevice: False
>> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
>> > *FileSystem: False
>> > *Throughput: "8"
>> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
>> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
>> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
>> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
>> > *cupsVersion: 1.3
>> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
>> > *cupsManualCopies: False
>> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
>> > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR
>> > ru sv zh zh_TW"
>> >
>> > From the new, broken unit:
>> >
>> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
>> > *FileVersion: "1.4"
>> > *LanguageVersion: English
>> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
>> > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
>> > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
>> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
>> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
>> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
>> > *ColorDevice: False
>> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
>> > *FileSystem: False
>> > *Throughput: "8"
>> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
>> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
>> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
>> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
>> > *cupsVersion: 1.4
>> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
>> > *cupsManualCopies: False
>> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
>> > *cupsLanguages: "en"
>> >
>> > JayArr
>> >
>> > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines
>> > > referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
>> > > > Hi Paul
>> > > >
>> > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1
>> > > > even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
>> > > >
>> > > > JayArr
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
>> > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've
>> > > > > noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was
>> > > > > > 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two
>> > > > > > trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white
>> > > > > > paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two
>> > > > > > (lower) for the accounting software.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster
>> > > > > > single sheet feed)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting
>> > > > > > software.)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not
>> > > > > > duplex.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now
>> > > > > > broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is
>> > > > > > specified in the ppd file.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL
>> > > > > > 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp
>> > > > > > filter.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > JayArr
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>

As both PPDs you told about specify using the rastertohp filter, I looked
into the sources of both the 1.3.5 and the 1.4.5 release of the rasterrohp
filter and see no differences with repsect to MediaPosition (aka tray
number) handling.
That leads me to the suspicion that the raster generating filter used in
your 1.4 configuration probably is the culprit in that it fails to specify
the media position in the raster header.
As the pstoraster or pdftoraster filter is part of Ghostscript (since the
ESP Ghostscript has been merged into GPL Ghostscript a couple of years ago),
which Ghostscript releases are you using in both environments?

Helge

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I was referring more to diffing the output, not the PPD files.


> Thanks Paul
>
> I've tried a few other things.
>
> I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder. This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.
>
> Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it isn't a .ppd problem right?
>
> I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.
>
> That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
> > I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.
> >
> > > Hi Paul
> > >
> > > From the working unit:
> > >
> > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > *FileVersion: "1.3"
> > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> > > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> > > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > *FileSystem: False
> > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > *cupsVersion: 1.3
> > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
> > >
> > > From the new, broken unit:
> > >
> > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > *FileVersion: "1.4"
> > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> > > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > *FileSystem: False
> > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > *cupsVersion: 1.4
> > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > *cupsLanguages: "en"
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > > > Hi Paul
> > > > >
> > > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > > > >
> > > > > JayArr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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Well, this may take me a little longer to test...

with 1.4.6 the mime.types and mime.convs appear to have moved, but when I found them, i don't see an issue. whenever I lp any type of file (text or postscript) it says unsupported format. looking through the PPD and mime.convs file, I see a path to get there, but i can't figure out why it isn't getting there. we're mostly a RAW shop but I'll keep playing with it and let you know.

> I was referring more to diffing the output, not the PPD files.
>
>
> > Thanks Paul
> >
> > I've tried a few other things.
> >
> > I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder. This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.
> >
> > Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it isn't a .ppd problem right?
> >
> > I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.
> >
> > That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> >
> > > I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.
> > >
> > > > Hi Paul
> > > >
> > > > From the working unit:
> > > >
> > > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > > *FileVersion: "1.3"
> > > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> > > > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> > > > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> > > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> > > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> > > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> > > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > > *FileSystem: False
> > > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > > *cupsVersion: 1.3
> > > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
> > > >
> > > > From the new, broken unit:
> > > >
> > > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > > *FileVersion: "1.4"
> > > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> > > > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> > > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> > > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > > *FileSystem: False
> > > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > > *cupsVersion: 1.4
> > > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > > *cupsLanguages: "en"
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > > > > Hi Paul
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Paul wrote:

> Well, this may take me a little longer to test...
>
> with 1.4.6 the mime.types and mime.convs appear to have moved, but when I
> found them, i don't see an issue. whenever I lp any type of file (text or
> postscript) it says unsupported format. looking through the PPD and
> mime.convs file, I see a path to get there, but i can't figure out why it
> isn't getting there. we're mostly a RAW shop but I'll keep playing with
> it and let you know.
>

As the final content type requested by the filter specified in the printer's
PPD (rastertohp), there must be a filter pstoraster (or gstoraster)
installed. These filters are part of Ghostscript and get only installed if
Ghostscript has been compiled with the cups device included.
Missing these filters causes the unsupported format message.
(I remember there is a RFE for cupsd to tell missing filters in cases like
this, but this has been postponed to a future release).

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I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.

I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.

Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)

Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet

Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)

Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.

The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.

I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.

All ideas would be appreciated.

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If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)

> I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
>
> I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>
> Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
>
> Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>
> Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
>
> Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
>
> The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
>
> I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
>
> All ideas would be appreciated.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>

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Hi Paul

Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.

JayArr


> If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
>
> > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> >
> > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> >
> > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> >
> > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> >
> > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> >
> > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> >
> > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> >
> > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> >
> > All ideas would be appreciated.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> Hi Paul
>
> Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
>
> JayArr
>
>
> > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> >
> > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > >
> > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > >
> > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > >
> > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > >
> > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > >
> > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > >
> > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > >
> > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > >
> > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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Hi Paul

>From the working unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.3"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
*Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
*Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.3
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"

>From the new, broken unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.4"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
*Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.4
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en"

JayArr

> Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > >
> > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > >
> > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > >
> > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > >
> > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > >
> > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > >
> > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > >
> > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > >
> > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > >
> > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.

> Hi Paul
>
> From the working unit:
>
> *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> *FileVersion: "1.3"
> *LanguageVersion: English
> *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> *Manufacturer: "HP"
> *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> *LanguageLevel: "3"
> *ColorDevice: False
> *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> *FileSystem: False
> *Throughput: "8"
> *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> *TTRasterizer: Type42
> *% Driver-defined attributes...
> *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> *cupsVersion: 1.3
> *cupsModelNumber: 0
> *cupsManualCopies: False
> *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
>
> From the new, broken unit:
>
> *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> *FileVersion: "1.4"
> *LanguageVersion: English
> *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> *Manufacturer: "HP"
> *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> *LanguageLevel: "3"
> *ColorDevice: False
> *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> *FileSystem: False
> *Throughput: "8"
> *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> *TTRasterizer: Type42
> *% Driver-defined attributes...
> *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> *cupsVersion: 1.4
> *cupsModelNumber: 0
> *cupsManualCopies: False
> *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> *cupsLanguages: "en"
>
> JayArr
>
> > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > Hi Paul
> > >
> > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > >
> > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > >
> > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > >
> > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > >
> > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > >
> > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > >
> > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > JayArr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Thanks Paul

I've tried a few other things.

I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder. This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.

Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it isn't a .ppd problem right?

I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.

That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.

JayArr



> I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.
>
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > From the working unit:
> >
> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > *FileVersion: "1.3"
> > *LanguageVersion: English
> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > *ColorDevice: False
> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > *FileSystem: False
> > *Throughput: "8"
> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > *cupsVersion: 1.3
> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
> >
> > From the new, broken unit:
> >
> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > *FileVersion: "1.4"
> > *LanguageVersion: English
> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > *ColorDevice: False
> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > *FileSystem: False
> > *Throughput: "8"
> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > *cupsVersion: 1.4
> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > *cupsLanguages: "en"
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > > Hi Paul
> > > >
> > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Jeff wrote:

> Thanks Paul
>
> I've tried a few other things.
>
> I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no
> change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top
> tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder.
> This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.
>
> Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if
> the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it
> isn't a .ppd problem right?
>
> I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting
> the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.
>
> That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between
> CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>> I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it
>> tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text
>> file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff
>> them.
>>
>> > Hi Paul
>> >
>> > From the working unit:
>> >
>> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
>> > *FileVersion: "1.3"
>> > *LanguageVersion: English
>> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
>> > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
>> > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
>> > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
>> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
>> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
>> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
>> > *ColorDevice: False
>> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
>> > *FileSystem: False
>> > *Throughput: "8"
>> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
>> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
>> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
>> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
>> > *cupsVersion: 1.3
>> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
>> > *cupsManualCopies: False
>> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
>> > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR
>> > ru sv zh zh_TW"
>> >
>> > From the new, broken unit:
>> >
>> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
>> > *FileVersion: "1.4"
>> > *LanguageVersion: English
>> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
>> > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
>> > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
>> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
>> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
>> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
>> > *ColorDevice: False
>> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
>> > *FileSystem: False
>> > *Throughput: "8"
>> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
>> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
>> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
>> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
>> > *cupsVersion: 1.4
>> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
>> > *cupsManualCopies: False
>> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
>> > *cupsLanguages: "en"
>> >
>> > JayArr
>> >
>> > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines
>> > > referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
>> > > > Hi Paul
>> > > >
>> > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1
>> > > > even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
>> > > >
>> > > > JayArr
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
>> > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've
>> > > > > noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was
>> > > > > > 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two
>> > > > > > trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white
>> > > > > > paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two
>> > > > > > (lower) for the accounting software.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster
>> > > > > > single sheet feed)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting
>> > > > > > software.)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not
>> > > > > > duplex.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now
>> > > > > > broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is
>> > > > > > specified in the ppd file.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL
>> > > > > > 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp
>> > > > > > filter.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > JayArr
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>

As both PPDs you told about specify using the rastertohp filter, I looked
into the sources of both the 1.3.5 and the 1.4.5 release of the rasterrohp
filter and see no differences with repsect to MediaPosition (aka tray
number) handling.
That leads me to the suspicion that the raster generating filter used in
your 1.4 configuration probably is the culprit in that it fails to specify
the media position in the raster header.
As the pstoraster or pdftoraster filter is part of Ghostscript (since the
ESP Ghostscript has been merged into GPL Ghostscript a couple of years ago),
which Ghostscript releases are you using in both environments?

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I was referring more to diffing the output, not the PPD files.


> Thanks Paul
>
> I've tried a few other things.
>
> I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder. This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.
>
> Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it isn't a .ppd problem right?
>
> I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.
>
> That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
> > I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.
> >
> > > Hi Paul
> > >
> > > From the working unit:
> > >
> > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > *FileVersion: "1.3"
> > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> > > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> > > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > *FileSystem: False
> > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > *cupsVersion: 1.3
> > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
> > >
> > > From the new, broken unit:
> > >
> > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > *FileVersion: "1.4"
> > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> > > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > *FileSystem: False
> > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > *cupsVersion: 1.4
> > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > *cupsLanguages: "en"
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > > > Hi Paul
> > > > >
> > > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > > > >
> > > > > JayArr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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Well, this may take me a little longer to test...

with 1.4.6 the mime.types and mime.convs appear to have moved, but when I found them, i don't see an issue. whenever I lp any type of file (text or postscript) it says unsupported format. looking through the PPD and mime.convs file, I see a path to get there, but i can't figure out why it isn't getting there. we're mostly a RAW shop but I'll keep playing with it and let you know.

> I was referring more to diffing the output, not the PPD files.
>
>
> > Thanks Paul
> >
> > I've tried a few other things.
> >
> > I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder. This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.
> >
> > Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it isn't a .ppd problem right?
> >
> > I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.
> >
> > That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> >
> > > I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.
> > >
> > > > Hi Paul
> > > >
> > > > From the working unit:
> > > >
> > > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > > *FileVersion: "1.3"
> > > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> > > > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> > > > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> > > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> > > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> > > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> > > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > > *FileSystem: False
> > > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > > *cupsVersion: 1.3
> > > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
> > > >
> > > > From the new, broken unit:
> > > >
> > > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > > *FileVersion: "1.4"
> > > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> > > > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> > > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> > > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > > *FileSystem: False
> > > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > > *cupsVersion: 1.4
> > > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > > *cupsLanguages: "en"
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > > > > Hi Paul
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Paul wrote:

> Well, this may take me a little longer to test...
>
> with 1.4.6 the mime.types and mime.convs appear to have moved, but when I
> found them, i don't see an issue. whenever I lp any type of file (text or
> postscript) it says unsupported format. looking through the PPD and
> mime.convs file, I see a path to get there, but i can't figure out why it
> isn't getting there. we're mostly a RAW shop but I'll keep playing with
> it and let you know.
>

As the final content type requested by the filter specified in the printer's
PPD (rastertohp), there must be a filter pstoraster (or gstoraster)
installed. These filters are part of Ghostscript and get only installed if
Ghostscript has been compiled with the cups device included.
Missing these filters causes the unsupported format message.
(I remember there is a RFE for cupsd to tell missing filters in cases like
this, but this has been postponed to a future release).

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> Paul wrote:
>
> > Well, this may take me a little longer to test...
> >
> > with 1.4.6 the mime.types and mime.convs appear to have moved, but when I
> > found them, i don't see an issue. whenever I lp any type of file (text or
> > postscript) it says unsupported format. looking through the PPD and
> > mime.convs file, I see a path to get there, but i can't figure out why it
> > isn't getting there. we're mostly a RAW shop but I'll keep playing with
> > it and let you know.
> >
>
> As the final content type requested by the filter specified in the printer's
> PPD (rastertohp), there must be a filter pstoraster (or gstoraster)
> installed. These filters are part of Ghostscript and get only installed if
> Ghostscript has been compiled with the cups device included.
> Missing these filters causes the unsupported format message.
> (I remember there is a RFE for cupsd to tell missing filters in cases like
> this, but this has been postponed to a future release).
>
> Helge
>
Thanks Helge, I missed the fact that that filter went away with the upgrade, it used to be there.
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I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.

I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.

Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)

Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet

Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)

Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.

The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.

I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.

All ideas would be appreciated.

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If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)

> I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
>
> I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>
> Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
>
> Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>
> Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
>
> Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
>
> The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
>
> I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
>
> All ideas would be appreciated.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>

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Hi Paul

Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.

JayArr


> If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
>
> > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> >
> > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> >
> > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> >
> > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> >
> > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> >
> > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> >
> > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> >
> > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> >
> > All ideas would be appreciated.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> Hi Paul
>
> Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
>
> JayArr
>
>
> > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> >
> > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > >
> > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > >
> > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > >
> > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > >
> > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > >
> > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > >
> > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > >
> > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > >
> > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Hi Paul

>From the working unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.3"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
*Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
*Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.3
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"

>From the new, broken unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.4"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
*Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.4
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en"

JayArr

> Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > >
> > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > >
> > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > >
> > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > >
> > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > >
> > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > >
> > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > >
> > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > >
> > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > >
> > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.

> Hi Paul
>
> From the working unit:
>
> *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> *FileVersion: "1.3"
> *LanguageVersion: English
> *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> *Manufacturer: "HP"
> *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> *LanguageLevel: "3"
> *ColorDevice: False
> *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> *FileSystem: False
> *Throughput: "8"
> *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> *TTRasterizer: Type42
> *% Driver-defined attributes...
> *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> *cupsVersion: 1.3
> *cupsModelNumber: 0
> *cupsManualCopies: False
> *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
>
> From the new, broken unit:
>
> *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> *FileVersion: "1.4"
> *LanguageVersion: English
> *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> *Manufacturer: "HP"
> *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> *LanguageLevel: "3"
> *ColorDevice: False
> *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> *FileSystem: False
> *Throughput: "8"
> *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> *TTRasterizer: Type42
> *% Driver-defined attributes...
> *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> *cupsVersion: 1.4
> *cupsModelNumber: 0
> *cupsManualCopies: False
> *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> *cupsLanguages: "en"
>
> JayArr
>
> > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > Hi Paul
> > >
> > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > >
> > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > >
> > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > >
> > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > >
> > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > >
> > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > >
> > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > JayArr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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Thanks Paul

I've tried a few other things.

I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder. This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.

Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it isn't a .ppd problem right?

I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.

That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.

JayArr



> I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.
>
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > From the working unit:
> >
> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > *FileVersion: "1.3"
> > *LanguageVersion: English
> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > *ColorDevice: False
> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > *FileSystem: False
> > *Throughput: "8"
> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > *cupsVersion: 1.3
> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
> >
> > From the new, broken unit:
> >
> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > *FileVersion: "1.4"
> > *LanguageVersion: English
> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > *ColorDevice: False
> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > *FileSystem: False
> > *Throughput: "8"
> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > *cupsVersion: 1.4
> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > *cupsLanguages: "en"
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > > Hi Paul
> > > >
> > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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Jeff wrote:

> Thanks Paul
>
> I've tried a few other things.
>
> I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no
> change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top
> tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder.
> This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.
>
> Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if
> the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it
> isn't a .ppd problem right?
>
> I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting
> the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.
>
> That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between
> CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>> I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it
>> tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text
>> file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff
>> them.
>>
>> > Hi Paul
>> >
>> > From the working unit:
>> >
>> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
>> > *FileVersion: "1.3"
>> > *LanguageVersion: English
>> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
>> > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
>> > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
>> > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
>> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
>> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
>> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
>> > *ColorDevice: False
>> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
>> > *FileSystem: False
>> > *Throughput: "8"
>> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
>> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
>> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
>> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
>> > *cupsVersion: 1.3
>> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
>> > *cupsManualCopies: False
>> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
>> > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR
>> > ru sv zh zh_TW"
>> >
>> > From the new, broken unit:
>> >
>> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
>> > *FileVersion: "1.4"
>> > *LanguageVersion: English
>> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
>> > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
>> > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
>> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
>> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
>> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
>> > *ColorDevice: False
>> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
>> > *FileSystem: False
>> > *Throughput: "8"
>> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
>> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
>> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
>> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
>> > *cupsVersion: 1.4
>> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
>> > *cupsManualCopies: False
>> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
>> > *cupsLanguages: "en"
>> >
>> > JayArr
>> >
>> > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines
>> > > referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
>> > > > Hi Paul
>> > > >
>> > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1
>> > > > even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
>> > > >
>> > > > JayArr
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
>> > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've
>> > > > > noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was
>> > > > > > 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two
>> > > > > > trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white
>> > > > > > paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two
>> > > > > > (lower) for the accounting software.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster
>> > > > > > single sheet feed)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting
>> > > > > > software.)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not
>> > > > > > duplex.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now
>> > > > > > broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is
>> > > > > > specified in the ppd file.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL
>> > > > > > 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp
>> > > > > > filter.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > JayArr
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>

As both PPDs you told about specify using the rastertohp filter, I looked
into the sources of both the 1.3.5 and the 1.4.5 release of the rasterrohp
filter and see no differences with repsect to MediaPosition (aka tray
number) handling.
That leads me to the suspicion that the raster generating filter used in
your 1.4 configuration probably is the culprit in that it fails to specify
the media position in the raster header.
As the pstoraster or pdftoraster filter is part of Ghostscript (since the
ESP Ghostscript has been merged into GPL Ghostscript a couple of years ago),
which Ghostscript releases are you using in both environments?

Helge

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I was referring more to diffing the output, not the PPD files.


> Thanks Paul
>
> I've tried a few other things.
>
> I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder. This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.
>
> Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it isn't a .ppd problem right?
>
> I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.
>
> That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
> > I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.
> >
> > > Hi Paul
> > >
> > > From the working unit:
> > >
> > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > *FileVersion: "1.3"
> > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> > > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> > > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > *FileSystem: False
> > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > *cupsVersion: 1.3
> > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
> > >
> > > From the new, broken unit:
> > >
> > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > *FileVersion: "1.4"
> > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> > > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > *FileSystem: False
> > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > *cupsVersion: 1.4
> > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > *cupsLanguages: "en"
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > > > Hi Paul
> > > > >
> > > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > > > >
> > > > > JayArr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Well, this may take me a little longer to test...

with 1.4.6 the mime.types and mime.convs appear to have moved, but when I found them, i don't see an issue. whenever I lp any type of file (text or postscript) it says unsupported format. looking through the PPD and mime.convs file, I see a path to get there, but i can't figure out why it isn't getting there. we're mostly a RAW shop but I'll keep playing with it and let you know.

> I was referring more to diffing the output, not the PPD files.
>
>
> > Thanks Paul
> >
> > I've tried a few other things.
> >
> > I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder. This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.
> >
> > Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it isn't a .ppd problem right?
> >
> > I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.
> >
> > That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> >
> > > I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.
> > >
> > > > Hi Paul
> > > >
> > > > From the working unit:
> > > >
> > > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > > *FileVersion: "1.3"
> > > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> > > > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> > > > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> > > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> > > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> > > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> > > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > > *FileSystem: False
> > > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > > *cupsVersion: 1.3
> > > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
> > > >
> > > > From the new, broken unit:
> > > >
> > > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > > *FileVersion: "1.4"
> > > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> > > > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> > > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> > > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > > *FileSystem: False
> > > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > > *cupsVersion: 1.4
> > > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > > *cupsLanguages: "en"
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > > > > Hi Paul
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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> Well, this may take me a little longer to test...
>
> with 1.4.6 the mime.types and mime.convs appear to have moved, but when I
> found them, i don't see an issue. whenever I lp any type of file (text or
> postscript) it says unsupported format. looking through the PPD and
> mime.convs file, I see a path to get there, but i can't figure out why it
> isn't getting there. we're mostly a RAW shop but I'll keep playing with
> it and let you know.
>

As the final content type requested by the filter specified in the printer's
PPD (rastertohp), there must be a filter pstoraster (or gstoraster)
installed. These filters are part of Ghostscript and get only installed if
Ghostscript has been compiled with the cups device included.
Missing these filters causes the unsupported format message.
(I remember there is a RFE for cupsd to tell missing filters in cases like
this, but this has been postponed to a future release).

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> Paul wrote:
>
> > Well, this may take me a little longer to test...
> >
> > with 1.4.6 the mime.types and mime.convs appear to have moved, but when I
> > found them, i don't see an issue. whenever I lp any type of file (text or
> > postscript) it says unsupported format. looking through the PPD and
> > mime.convs file, I see a path to get there, but i can't figure out why it
> > isn't getting there. we're mostly a RAW shop but I'll keep playing with
> > it and let you know.
> >
>
> As the final content type requested by the filter specified in the printer's
> PPD (rastertohp), there must be a filter pstoraster (or gstoraster)
> installed. These filters are part of Ghostscript and get only installed if
> Ghostscript has been compiled with the cups device included.
> Missing these filters causes the unsupported format message.
> (I remember there is a RFE for cupsd to tell missing filters in cases like
> this, but this has been postponed to a future release).
>
> Helge
>
Thanks Helge, I missed the fact that that filter went away with the upgrade, it used to be there.
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> Paul wrote:
>
> > Well, this may take me a little longer to test...
> >
> > with 1.4.6 the mime.types and mime.convs appear to have moved, but when I
> > found them, i don't see an issue. whenever I lp any type of file (text or
> > postscript) it says unsupported format. looking through the PPD and
> > mime.convs file, I see a path to get there, but i can't figure out why it
> > isn't getting there. we're mostly a RAW shop but I'll keep playing with
> > it and let you know.
> >
>
> As the final content type requested by the filter specified in the printer's
> PPD (rastertohp), there must be a filter pstoraster (or gstoraster)
> installed. These filters are part of Ghostscript and get only installed if
> Ghostscript has been compiled with the cups device included.
> Missing these filters causes the unsupported format message.
> (I remember there is a RFE for cupsd to tell missing filters in cases like
> this, but this has been postponed to a future release).
>
> Helge
>

At the risk of sounding stupid here (*NOTE* my expertise is more around Printer communications / hardware as well as software / script design, not compiling) I'm not finding any doc on how to compile GhostScript with the cups device included. I found the chunk of code in the devs.mak file for CUPS, but not seeing how to "turn it on" can you point me in the right direction at all? I've googled, looked on cups.org, GhostScripts Site and came up empty.
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I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.

I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.

Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)

Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet

Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)

Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.

The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.

I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.

All ideas would be appreciated.

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If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)

> I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
>
> I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>
> Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
>
> Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>
> Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
>
> Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
>
> The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
>
> I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
>
> All ideas would be appreciated.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>

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Hi Paul

Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.

JayArr


> If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
>
> > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> >
> > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> >
> > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> >
> > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> >
> > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> >
> > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> >
> > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> >
> > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> >
> > All ideas would be appreciated.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> Hi Paul
>
> Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
>
> JayArr
>
>
> > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> >
> > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > >
> > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > >
> > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > >
> > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > >
> > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > >
> > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > >
> > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > >
> > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > >
> > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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Hi Paul

>From the working unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.3"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
*Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
*Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.3
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"

>From the new, broken unit:

*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.4"
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
*Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
*Manufacturer: "HP"
*ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
*PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: "8"
*LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*% Driver-defined attributes...
*cupsBackSide: "Normal"
*cupsVersion: 1.4
*cupsModelNumber: 0
*cupsManualCopies: False
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
*cupsLanguages: "en"

JayArr

> Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > >
> > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > >
> > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > >
> > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > >
> > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > >
> > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > >
> > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > >
> > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > >
> > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > >
> > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.

> Hi Paul
>
> From the working unit:
>
> *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> *FileVersion: "1.3"
> *LanguageVersion: English
> *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> *Manufacturer: "HP"
> *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> *LanguageLevel: "3"
> *ColorDevice: False
> *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> *FileSystem: False
> *Throughput: "8"
> *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> *TTRasterizer: Type42
> *% Driver-defined attributes...
> *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> *cupsVersion: 1.3
> *cupsModelNumber: 0
> *cupsManualCopies: False
> *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
>
> From the new, broken unit:
>
> *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> *FileVersion: "1.4"
> *LanguageVersion: English
> *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> *Manufacturer: "HP"
> *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> *LanguageLevel: "3"
> *ColorDevice: False
> *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> *FileSystem: False
> *Throughput: "8"
> *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> *TTRasterizer: Type42
> *% Driver-defined attributes...
> *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> *cupsVersion: 1.4
> *cupsModelNumber: 0
> *cupsManualCopies: False
> *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> *cupsLanguages: "en"
>
> JayArr
>
> > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > Hi Paul
> > >
> > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > >
> > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > >
> > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > >
> > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > >
> > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > >
> > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > >
> > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > >
> > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > JayArr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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Thanks Paul

I've tried a few other things.

I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder. This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.

Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it isn't a .ppd problem right?

I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.

That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.

JayArr



> I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.
>
> > Hi Paul
> >
> > From the working unit:
> >
> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > *FileVersion: "1.3"
> > *LanguageVersion: English
> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > *ColorDevice: False
> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > *FileSystem: False
> > *Throughput: "8"
> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > *cupsVersion: 1.3
> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
> >
> > From the new, broken unit:
> >
> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > *FileVersion: "1.4"
> > *LanguageVersion: English
> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > *ColorDevice: False
> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > *FileSystem: False
> > *Throughput: "8"
> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > *cupsVersion: 1.4
> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > *cupsLanguages: "en"
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > > Hi Paul
> > > >
> > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> Thanks Paul
>
> I've tried a few other things.
>
> I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no
> change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top
> tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder.
> This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.
>
> Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if
> the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it
> isn't a .ppd problem right?
>
> I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting
> the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.
>
> That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between
> CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
>> I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it
>> tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text
>> file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff
>> them.
>>
>> > Hi Paul
>> >
>> > From the working unit:
>> >
>> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
>> > *FileVersion: "1.3"
>> > *LanguageVersion: English
>> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
>> > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
>> > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
>> > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
>> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
>> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
>> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
>> > *ColorDevice: False
>> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
>> > *FileSystem: False
>> > *Throughput: "8"
>> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
>> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
>> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
>> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
>> > *cupsVersion: 1.3
>> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
>> > *cupsManualCopies: False
>> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
>> > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR
>> > ru sv zh zh_TW"
>> >
>> > From the new, broken unit:
>> >
>> > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
>> > *FileVersion: "1.4"
>> > *LanguageVersion: English
>> > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
>> > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
>> > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
>> > *Manufacturer: "HP"
>> > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
>> > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
>> > *LanguageLevel: "3"
>> > *ColorDevice: False
>> > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
>> > *FileSystem: False
>> > *Throughput: "8"
>> > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
>> > *TTRasterizer: Type42
>> > *% Driver-defined attributes...
>> > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
>> > *cupsVersion: 1.4
>> > *cupsModelNumber: 0
>> > *cupsManualCopies: False
>> > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
>> > *cupsLanguages: "en"
>> >
>> > JayArr
>> >
>> > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines
>> > > referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
>> > > > Hi Paul
>> > > >
>> > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1
>> > > > even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
>> > > >
>> > > > JayArr
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
>> > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've
>> > > > > noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was
>> > > > > > 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two
>> > > > > > trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white
>> > > > > > paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two
>> > > > > > (lower) for the accounting software.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster
>> > > > > > single sheet feed)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting
>> > > > > > software.)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not
>> > > > > > duplex.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now
>> > > > > > broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is
>> > > > > > specified in the ppd file.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL
>> > > > > > 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp
>> > > > > > filter.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > JayArr
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>

As both PPDs you told about specify using the rastertohp filter, I looked
into the sources of both the 1.3.5 and the 1.4.5 release of the rasterrohp
filter and see no differences with repsect to MediaPosition (aka tray
number) handling.
That leads me to the suspicion that the raster generating filter used in
your 1.4 configuration probably is the culprit in that it fails to specify
the media position in the raster header.
As the pstoraster or pdftoraster filter is part of Ghostscript (since the
ESP Ghostscript has been merged into GPL Ghostscript a couple of years ago),
which Ghostscript releases are you using in both environments?

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I was referring more to diffing the output, not the PPD files.


> Thanks Paul
>
> I've tried a few other things.
>
> I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder. This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.
>
> Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it isn't a .ppd problem right?
>
> I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.
>
> That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.
>
> JayArr
>
>
>
> > I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.
> >
> > > Hi Paul
> > >
> > > From the working unit:
> > >
> > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > *FileVersion: "1.3"
> > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> > > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> > > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > *FileSystem: False
> > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > *cupsVersion: 1.3
> > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
> > >
> > > From the new, broken unit:
> > >
> > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > *FileVersion: "1.4"
> > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> > > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > *FileSystem: False
> > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > *cupsVersion: 1.4
> > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > *cupsLanguages: "en"
> > >
> > > JayArr
> > >
> > > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > > > Hi Paul
> > > > >
> > > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > > > >
> > > > > JayArr
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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Well, this may take me a little longer to test...

with 1.4.6 the mime.types and mime.convs appear to have moved, but when I found them, i don't see an issue. whenever I lp any type of file (text or postscript) it says unsupported format. looking through the PPD and mime.convs file, I see a path to get there, but i can't figure out why it isn't getting there. we're mostly a RAW shop but I'll keep playing with it and let you know.

> I was referring more to diffing the output, not the PPD files.
>
>
> > Thanks Paul
> >
> > I've tried a few other things.
> >
> > I pulled the .ppd file from the working computer to the new one - no change, in fact no matter which tray you select it takes from the top tray, there is no way to select the bottom tray or the envelope feeder. This is confirmed no matter which .ppd file I use.
> >
> > Thas sort of rules out comparing the two .ppd files for discrepancies, if the .ppd file that works on the old server won't work on the new one it isn't a .ppd problem right?
> >
> > I tried to set up the same printer on an third computer, still selecting the same driver and CUPS 1.4.6. It is also broken.
> >
> > That made me feel a little better, it seems there is some problem between CUPS 1.3 and cups 1.4 that has broken the HP driver.
> >
> > JayArr
> >
> >
> >
> > > I think I have a laserjet III in storage, I'll try and play with it tomorrow. If you still have the 1.3.x install you might print a text file to file and print the same text file to file with 1.4.x then diff them.
> > >
> > > > Hi Paul
> > > >
> > > > From the working unit:
> > > >
> > > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > > *FileVersion: "1.3"
> > > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > > *PCFileName: "LASERJET.PPD"
> > > > *Product: "(ESP Ghostscript)"
> > > > *Product: "(GPL Ghostscript)"
> > > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5, 1.3"
> > > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 81504"
> > > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 860"
> > > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > > *FileSystem: False
> > > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > > *cupsVersion: 1.3
> > > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > > *cupsLanguages: "en da de es et fi fr he id it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ru sv zh zh_TW"
> > > >
> > > > From the new, broken unit:
> > > >
> > > > *FormatVersion: "4.3"
> > > > *FileVersion: "1.4"
> > > > *LanguageVersion: English
> > > > *LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
> > > > *PCFileName: "laserjet.ppd"
> > > > *Product: "(LaserJet Series PCL 4/5)"
> > > > *Manufacturer: "HP"
> > > > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *NickName: "HP LaserJet Series PCL 4/5"
> > > > *PSVersion: "(3010.000) 0"
> > > > *LanguageLevel: "3"
> > > > *ColorDevice: False
> > > > *DefaultColorSpace: Gray
> > > > *FileSystem: False
> > > > *Throughput: "8"
> > > > *LandscapeOrientation: Plus90
> > > > *TTRasterizer: Type42
> > > > *% Driver-defined attributes...
> > > > *cupsBackSide: "Normal"
> > > > *cupsVersion: 1.4
> > > > *cupsModelNumber: 0
> > > > *cupsManualCopies: False
> > > > *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp"
> > > > *cupsLanguages: "en"
> > > >
> > > > JayArr
> > > >
> > > > > Up near the top of the PPD file, there should be some lines referencing a cupsFilter. can you copy those out here please?
> > > > > > Hi Paul
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nothing in the error log. If I print a test page it goes to tray 1 even though the ppd specifically says tray 3.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you print a test page does it honor the PPD?
> > > > > > > anything in the error_log (1.4 logs a little different i've noticed, you may want to kick logging to debug)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm building a new print server with CUPS 1.4, the old one was 1.3. I have an HPIIID printer with an envelope feeder and two trays. I use the top try for general printing, it has white paper 8.5X11. I have our company cheques loaded into try two (lower) for the accounting software.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I create a series of printers all aimed at the same socket.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Simplex uses tray 1 and does not duplex the sheet. (faster single sheet feed)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Duplex uses tray 1 and duplexes the sheet
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheques "should" use tray 2. (only for the accounting software.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Envelope "should" use the #10 envelope feeder and does not duplex.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The trouble is that since upgrading to CUPS 1.4 this is now broken. All printing comes from the top tray no matter what is specified in the ppd file.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm still using the same albeit updated HP Laserjet Series PCL 4/5 driver and the application/vnd.cups-raster 50 rastertohp filter.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > All ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > JayArr
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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Paul wrote:

> Well, this may take me a little longer to test...
>
> with 1.4.6 the mime.types and mime.convs appear to have moved, but when I
> found them, i don't see an issue. whenever I lp any type of file (text or
> postscript) it says unsupported format. looking through the PPD and
> mime.convs file, I see a path to get there, but i can't figure out why it
> isn't getting there. we're mostly a RAW shop but I'll keep playing with
> it and let you know.
>

As the final content type requested by the filter specified in the printer's
PPD (rastertohp), there must be a filter pstoraster (or gstoraster)
installed. These filters are part of Ghostscript and get only installed if
Ghostscript has been compiled with the cups device included.
Missing these filters causes the unsupported format message.
(I remember there is a RFE for cupsd to tell missing filters in cases like
this, but this has been postponed to a future release).

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> Paul wrote:
>
> > Well, this may take me a little longer to test...
> >
> > with 1.4.6 the mime.types and mime.convs appear to have moved, but when I
> > found them, i don't see an issue. whenever I lp any type of file (text or
> > postscript) it says unsupported format. looking through the PPD and
> > mime.convs file, I see a path to get there, but i can't figure out why it
> > isn't getting there. we're mostly a RAW shop but I'll keep playing with
> > it and let you know.
> >
>
> As the final content type requested by the filter specified in the printer's
> PPD (rastertohp), there must be a filter pstoraster (or gstoraster)
> installed. These filters are part of Ghostscript and get only installed if
> Ghostscript has been compiled with the cups device included.
> Missing these filters causes the unsupported format message.
> (I remember there is a RFE for cupsd to tell missing filters in cases like
> this, but this has been postponed to a future release).
>
> Helge
>
Thanks Helge, I missed the fact that that filter went away with the upgrade, it used to be there.
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> Paul wrote:
>
> > Well, this may take me a little longer to test...
> >
> > with 1.4.6 the mime.types and mime.convs appear to have moved, but when I
> > found them, i don't see an issue. whenever I lp any type of file (text or
> > postscript) it says unsupported format. looking through the PPD and
> > mime.convs file, I see a path to get there, but i can't figure out why it
> > isn't getting there. we're mostly a RAW shop but I'll keep playing with
> > it and let you know.
> >
>
> As the final content type requested by the filter specified in the printer's
> PPD (rastertohp), there must be a filter pstoraster (or gstoraster)
> installed. These filters are part of Ghostscript and get only installed if
> Ghostscript has been compiled with the cups device included.
> Missing these filters causes the unsupported format message.
> (I remember there is a RFE for cupsd to tell missing filters in cases like
> this, but this has been postponed to a future release).
>
> Helge
>

At the risk of sounding stupid here (*NOTE* my expertise is more around Printer communications / hardware as well as software / script design, not compiling) I'm not finding any doc on how to compile GhostScript with the cups device included. I found the chunk of code in the devs.mak file for CUPS, but not seeing how to "turn it on" can you point me in the right direction at all? I've googled, looked on cups.org, GhostScripts Site and came up empty.
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> > Paul wrote:
> >
> > > Well, this may take me a little longer to test...
> > >
> > > with 1.4.6 the mime.types and mime.convs appear to have moved, but when I
> > > found them, i don't see an issue. whenever I lp any type of file (text or
> > > postscript) it says unsupported format. looking through the PPD and
> > > mime.convs file, I see a path to get there, but i can't figure out why it
> > > isn't getting there. we're mostly a RAW shop but I'll keep playing with
> > > it and let you know.
> > >
> >
> > As the final content type requested by the filter specified in the printer's
> > PPD (rastertohp), there must be a filter pstoraster (or gstoraster)
> > installed. These filters are part of Ghostscript and get only installed if
> > Ghostscript has been compiled with the cups device included.
> > Missing these filters causes the unsupported format message.
> > (I remember there is a RFE for cupsd to tell missing filters in cases like
> > this, but this has been postponed to a future release).
> >
> > Helge
> >
>
> At the risk of sounding stupid here (*NOTE* my expertise is more around Printer communications / hardware as well as software / script design, not compiling) I'm not finding any doc on how to compile GhostScript with the cups device included. I found the chunk of code in the devs.mak file for CUPS, but not seeing how to "turn it on" can you point me in the right direction at all? I've googled, looked on cups.org, GhostScripts Site and came up empty.

Nevermind, default configure and make seem to do the trick and make the gstoraster.convs file for me as well
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