Maya

You are so naive

The artist has made the music over a course of years. It is ambient music.

He has worked on his craft to the point where a label is prepared to invest
in getting it made into a CD, promoted and sold.

I don't do this for the money - I do it for the love of the music. I work
hours and hours and hours per week on it. As well as hold down my main job.
I do it out of love for the music.

But if I invest £900 and don't receive a near break even return then I go
out of business and the music is not released.... the smaller labels get
forced out and we are left with myspace unsigned and the majors.



David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb
Records > Exploratory music



_____

From: Maya R. Odinezenko [mailto:]
Sent: 07 May 2011 16:11
To: David Newman
Cc: <>; ambient;

Subject: Re: (amb) Thoughtless idiots who masquerade as supporters of small
labels


Honestly, I really wouldn't complain.

I know this will come off as harsh, but it really bothers me people use this
list more for promoting their own stuff than just talking about ambient
music.

You're already investing in making music, but it sounds like you're involved
more fir making some sort if cash flow as opposed to just making music for
the sake of art/the love of it.

If I were a musician, I'd be flattered my music was being shared. At least
it's good enough to be shared. If people dig it, they will buy it. There
are a ton of artists I invested in after I downloaded their stuff.

The investment is there for you, don't blame file sharing for losing sales.
Maybe people want to try before they buy, bc technology in this day and age
allows them to do so.

Just saying.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 7, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "David Newman" <> wrote:



To the thoughtless idiots....

So here I am 3 weeks from the release of a beautiful album by A Dancing
Beggar.


http://www.audiobulb.com/albums/AB036/AB036.htm

The album has been sent out as per usual to 120 reviewers on our promo list.
One or more of these people who purport to support independent music and
small labels has uploaded the album onto every file sharing platform there
is.

So it's out - people can help themselves for free. The £200 I spent on
postage won't get recouped, the £750 I spent on making the CD won't get
recouped.

Some people think it's easy balancing the books if you are a record small
record company - I can tell you it is not. I only made 500 of these and if I
don't get close to £900 back I can see Audiobulb sinking/closing for good.

So you may be thinking why am I ranting at you? Well I don't know who has
done this - they hide behind stupid names in Fileshare etc - but whoever you
are - you are selfish, thoughtless and stupid.


David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb
Records > Exploratory music



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Maya

You are so naive

The artist has made the music over a course of years. It is ambient music.

He has worked on his craft to the point where a label is prepared to invest
in getting it made into a CD, promoted and sold.

I don't do this for the money - I do it for the love of the music. I work
hours and hours and hours per week on it. As well as hold down my main job.
I do it out of love for the music.

But if I invest £900 and don't receive a near break even return then I go
out of business and the music is not released.... the smaller labels get
forced out and we are left with myspace unsigned and the majors.



David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb
Records > Exploratory music



_____

From: Maya R. Odinezenko [mailto:]
Sent: 07 May 2011 16:11
To: David Newman
Cc: <>; ambient;

Subject: Re: (amb) Thoughtless idiots who masquerade as supporters of small
labels


Honestly, I really wouldn't complain.

I know this will come off as harsh, but it really bothers me people use this
list more for promoting their own stuff than just talking about ambient
music.

You're already investing in making music, but it sounds like you're involved
more fir making some sort if cash flow as opposed to just making music for
the sake of art/the love of it.

If I were a musician, I'd be flattered my music was being shared. At least
it's good enough to be shared. If people dig it, they will buy it. There
are a ton of artists I invested in after I downloaded their stuff.

The investment is there for you, don't blame file sharing for losing sales.
Maybe people want to try before they buy, bc technology in this day and age
allows them to do so.

Just saying.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 7, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "David Newman" <> wrote:



To the thoughtless idiots....

So here I am 3 weeks from the release of a beautiful album by A Dancing
Beggar.


http://www.audiobulb.com/albums/AB036/AB036.htm

The album has been sent out as per usual to 120 reviewers on our promo list.
One or more of these people who purport to support independent music and
small labels has uploaded the album onto every file sharing platform there
is.

So it's out - people can help themselves for free. The £200 I spent on
postage won't get recouped, the £750 I spent on making the CD won't get
recouped.

Some people think it's easy balancing the books if you are a record small
record company - I can tell you it is not. I only made 500 of these and if I
don't get close to £900 back I can see Audiobulb sinking/closing for good.

So you may be thinking why am I ranting at you? Well I don't know who has
done this - they hide behind stupid names in Fileshare etc - but whoever you
are - you are selfish, thoughtless and stupid.


David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb
Records > Exploratory music



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Absolutely Dene - we are being shafted - robbed - taken advatage of -
disrespected.


David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb
Records > Exploratory music



_____

From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Dene
Carter
Sent: 07 May 2011 16:34
To: Maya R. Odinezenko
Cc: David Newman; <>; ambient;

Subject: Re: (amb) Thoughtless idiots who masquerade as supporters of small
labels


I imagine that if this happened at some point after the release it might
have seemed less painful.

I can quite understand why a bootlegged copy's existence spoils the launch
and undermines all the effort that went into producing the work whether it
ultimately hurt sales or not (a subject much debated elsewhere).

Musicians and their promoters should at least have a choice when their work
becomes available as a whole. In the world of increasingly 'democratised'
media and distribution, creatives and those who aid them seem to have few
rights left.


On 7 May 2011 16:10, Maya R. Odinezenko <> wrote:


Honestly, I really wouldn't complain.

I know this will come off as harsh, but it really bothers me people use this
list more for promoting their own stuff than just talking about ambient
music.

You're already investing in making music, but it sounds like you're involved
more fir making some sort if cash flow as opposed to just making music for
the sake of art/the love of it.

If I were a musician, I'd be flattered my music was being shared. At least
it's good enough to be shared. If people dig it, they will buy it. There
are a ton of artists I invested in after I downloaded their stuff.

The investment is there for you, don't blame file sharing for losing sales.
Maybe people want to try before they buy, bc technology in this day and age
allows them to do so.

Just saying.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 7, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "David Newman" <> wrote:



To the thoughtless idiots....

So here I am 3 weeks from the release of a beautiful album by A Dancing
Beggar.


http://www.audiobulb.com/albums/AB036/AB036.htm

The album has been sent out as per usual to 120 reviewers on our promo list.
One or more of these people who purport to support independent music and
small labels has uploaded the album onto every file sharing platform there
is.

So it's out - people can help themselves for free. The £200 I spent on
postage won't get recouped, the £750 I spent on making the CD won't get
recouped.

Some people think it's easy balancing the books if you are a record small
record company - I can tell you it is not. I only made 500 of these and if I
don't get close to £900 back I can see Audiobulb sinking/closing for good.

So you may be thinking why am I ranting at you? Well I don't know who has
done this - they hide behind stupid names in Fileshare etc - but whoever you
are - you are selfish, thoughtless and stupid.


David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb Records > Exploratory music






--
http://www.fluttermind.com

Flaboo! now available on the App Store:
http://www.itunes.com/apps/Flaboo

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Maya

You are so naive

The artist has made the music over a course of years. It is ambient music.

He has worked on his craft to the point where a label is prepared to invest
in getting it made into a CD, promoted and sold.

I don't do this for the money - I do it for the love of the music. I work
hours and hours and hours per week on it. As well as hold down my main job.
I do it out of love for the music.

But if I invest £900 and don't receive a near break even return then I go
out of business and the music is not released.... the smaller labels get
forced out and we are left with myspace unsigned and the majors.



David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb
Records > Exploratory music



_____

From: Maya R. Odinezenko [mailto:]
Sent: 07 May 2011 16:11
To: David Newman
Cc: <>; ambient;

Subject: Re: (amb) Thoughtless idiots who masquerade as supporters of small
labels


Honestly, I really wouldn't complain.

I know this will come off as harsh, but it really bothers me people use this
list more for promoting their own stuff than just talking about ambient
music.

You're already investing in making music, but it sounds like you're involved
more fir making some sort if cash flow as opposed to just making music for
the sake of art/the love of it.

If I were a musician, I'd be flattered my music was being shared. At least
it's good enough to be shared. If people dig it, they will buy it. There
are a ton of artists I invested in after I downloaded their stuff.

The investment is there for you, don't blame file sharing for losing sales.
Maybe people want to try before they buy, bc technology in this day and age
allows them to do so.

Just saying.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 7, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "David Newman" <> wrote:



To the thoughtless idiots....

So here I am 3 weeks from the release of a beautiful album by A Dancing
Beggar.


http://www.audiobulb.com/albums/AB036/AB036.htm

The album has been sent out as per usual to 120 reviewers on our promo list.
One or more of these people who purport to support independent music and
small labels has uploaded the album onto every file sharing platform there
is.

So it's out - people can help themselves for free. The £200 I spent on
postage won't get recouped, the £750 I spent on making the CD won't get
recouped.

Some people think it's easy balancing the books if you are a record small
record company - I can tell you it is not. I only made 500 of these and if I
don't get close to £900 back I can see Audiobulb sinking/closing for good.

So you may be thinking why am I ranting at you? Well I don't know who has
done this - they hide behind stupid names in Fileshare etc - but whoever you
are - you are selfish, thoughtless and stupid.


David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb
Records > Exploratory music



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Absolutely Dene - we are being shafted - robbed - taken advatage of -
disrespected.


David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb
Records > Exploratory music



_____

From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Dene
Carter
Sent: 07 May 2011 16:34
To: Maya R. Odinezenko
Cc: David Newman; <>; ambient;

Subject: Re: (amb) Thoughtless idiots who masquerade as supporters of small
labels


I imagine that if this happened at some point after the release it might
have seemed less painful.

I can quite understand why a bootlegged copy's existence spoils the launch
and undermines all the effort that went into producing the work whether it
ultimately hurt sales or not (a subject much debated elsewhere).

Musicians and their promoters should at least have a choice when their work
becomes available as a whole. In the world of increasingly 'democratised'
media and distribution, creatives and those who aid them seem to have few
rights left.


On 7 May 2011 16:10, Maya R. Odinezenko <> wrote:


Honestly, I really wouldn't complain.

I know this will come off as harsh, but it really bothers me people use this
list more for promoting their own stuff than just talking about ambient
music.

You're already investing in making music, but it sounds like you're involved
more fir making some sort if cash flow as opposed to just making music for
the sake of art/the love of it.

If I were a musician, I'd be flattered my music was being shared. At least
it's good enough to be shared. If people dig it, they will buy it. There
are a ton of artists I invested in after I downloaded their stuff.

The investment is there for you, don't blame file sharing for losing sales.
Maybe people want to try before they buy, bc technology in this day and age
allows them to do so.

Just saying.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 7, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "David Newman" <> wrote:



To the thoughtless idiots....

So here I am 3 weeks from the release of a beautiful album by A Dancing
Beggar.


http://www.audiobulb.com/albums/AB036/AB036.htm

The album has been sent out as per usual to 120 reviewers on our promo list.
One or more of these people who purport to support independent music and
small labels has uploaded the album onto every file sharing platform there
is.

So it's out - people can help themselves for free. The £200 I spent on
postage won't get recouped, the £750 I spent on making the CD won't get
recouped.

Some people think it's easy balancing the books if you are a record small
record company - I can tell you it is not. I only made 500 of these and if I
don't get close to £900 back I can see Audiobulb sinking/closing for good.

So you may be thinking why am I ranting at you? Well I don't know who has
done this - they hide behind stupid names in Fileshare etc - but whoever you
are - you are selfish, thoughtless and stupid.


David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb Records > Exploratory music






--
http://www.fluttermind.com

Flaboo! now available on the App Store:
http://www.itunes.com/apps/Flaboo

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I can understand your point Darren, but on the other hand I think that due to so much music available you need to have some kind of filter (and magazines and radios, can function like that in a sense), or you can invest in a label for a lot of time (and build the respect of the community) and maybe, just maybe you can reach the point where the self promotional tools work out as a "domino effect", as an example, I run a "netlabel" as you know and after 1 week, no one talks about the music anymore, no one tweets it, no one "likes it", if you look at the best available stats to understand this phenomenon, you will see that after 2 weeks, 1 month maximum (with few exceptions) the number of downloads decrease to almost zero. so I think the magazines help to keep the momentum going.

Of course, I am talking about labels and artists that hardly get any money out of there releases, but that doesn't mean they don't deserve it (on the contrary), but they truly do it for their love to music.

Kindly,

Leonardo Rosado by FeedbackLoop Label

On May 7, 2011, at 5:32 PM, darren harper wrote:

> I'm having a hard time getting past the accusation made that David Newman(Autistici), the labels he runs (Audiobulb , Audiomoves) and then by extension the artists he represents, are simply in this for the 'cash flow'.
>
> Beyond ludicrous, and this is clearly a case of being taken advantage of.....betrayed even.
>
> Is it necessary to send out these 'promotional packages' to reviewers anymore? I'm very naive to this, but it seems to me, with all the self-promoting tools we have at our disposal (lists like this, soundcloud, facebook, etc..) that, save for the few wonderful reviewers we have on the Ambient list, sending out pre-release packages are becoming a thing of the past? Like I said, I'm naive to this end of things...
>
> Sorry this has happened, David.
>
> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:10 AM, J Zachary <> wrote:
> 1. I like to hear about new releases directly from small labels and
> independent artists on this list. The more info about these releases
> I have, the more likely I am to purchase.
>
> 2. Audiobulb is a fine label that deserves support for their
> investment in independent musicians.
>
> 3. It is ironic that Audiobulb provides promotional material at their
> expense to someone that then poisons the well so to speak.
>
> 4. I encourage everyone to use this incident to support David's label
> in a twist of irony on the bootleggers.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:10 AM, David Newman <> wrote:
> > Absolutely Dene - we are being shafted - robbed - taken advatage of -
> > disrespected.
> >
> >
> > David Newman
> >
> > http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves > Digital audio solutions
> >
> > http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb Records > Exploratory music
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Dene
> > Carter
> > Sent: 07 May 2011 16:34
> > To: Maya R. Odinezenko
> > Cc: David Newman; <>; ambient;
> >
> > Subject: Re: (amb) Thoughtless idiots who masquerade as supporters of small
> > labels
> >
> > I imagine that if this happened at some point after the release it might
> > have seemed less painful.
> >
> > I can quite understand why a bootlegged copy's existence spoils the launch
> > and undermines all the effort that went into producing the work whether it
> > ultimately hurt sales or not (a subject much debated elsewhere).
> >
> > Musicians and their promoters should at least have a choice when their work
> > becomes available as a whole. In the world of increasingly 'democratised'
> > media and distribution, creatives and those who aid them seem to have few
> > rights left.
> >
> > On 7 May 2011 16:10, Maya R. Odinezenko <> wrote:
> >>
> >> Honestly, I really wouldn't complain.
> >> I know this will come off as harsh, but it really bothers me people use
> >> this list more for promoting their own stuff than just talking about ambient
> >> music.
> >> You're already investing in making music, but it sounds like you're
> >> involved more fir making some sort if cash flow as opposed to just making
> >> music for the sake of art/the love of it.
> >> If I were a musician, I'd be flattered my music was being shared. At
> >> least it's good enough to be shared. If people dig it, they will buy it.
> >> There are a ton of artists I invested in after I downloaded their stuff.
> >> The investment is there for you, don't blame file sharing for losing
> >> sales. Maybe people want to try before they buy, bc technology in this day
> >> and age allows them to do so.
> >> Just saying.
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> On May 7, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "David Newman" <> wrote:
> >>
> >> To the thoughtless idiots....
> >>
> >> So here I am 3 weeks from the release of a beautiful album by A Dancing
> >> Beggar.
> >>
> >> http://www.audiobulb.com/albums/AB036/AB036.htm
> >>
> >> The album has been sent out as per usual to 120 reviewers on our promo
> >> list. One or more of these people who purport to support independent music
> >> and small labels has uploaded the album onto every file sharing platform
> >> there is.
> >>
> >> So it's out - people can help themselves for free. The £200 I spent on
> >> postage won't get recouped, the £750 I spent on making the CD won't get
> >> recouped.
> >>
> >> Some people think it's easy balancing the books if you are a record small
> >> record company - I can tell you it is not. I only made 500 of these and if I
> >> don't get close to £900 back I can see Audiobulb sinking/closing for good.
> >>
> >> So you may be thinking why am I ranting at you? Well I don't know who has
> >> done this - they hide behind stupid names in Fileshare etc - but whoever you
> >> are - you are selfish, thoughtless and stupid.
> >>
> >>
> >> David Newman
> >>
> >> http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves > Digital audio solutions
> >>
> >> http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb Records > Exploratory music
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.fluttermind.com
> >
> > Flaboo! now available on the App Store:
> > http://www.itunes.com/apps/Flaboo
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> >
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>
>
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>
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>
>

Maya

You are so naive

The artist has made the music over a course of years. It is ambient music.

He has worked on his craft to the point where a label is prepared to invest
in getting it made into a CD, promoted and sold.

I don't do this for the money - I do it for the love of the music. I work
hours and hours and hours per week on it. As well as hold down my main job.
I do it out of love for the music.

But if I invest £900 and don't receive a near break even return then I go
out of business and the music is not released.... the smaller labels get
forced out and we are left with myspace unsigned and the majors.



David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb
Records > Exploratory music



_____

From: Maya R. Odinezenko [mailto:]
Sent: 07 May 2011 16:11
To: David Newman
Cc: <>; ambient;

Subject: Re: (amb) Thoughtless idiots who masquerade as supporters of small
labels


Honestly, I really wouldn't complain.

I know this will come off as harsh, but it really bothers me people use this
list more for promoting their own stuff than just talking about ambient
music.

You're already investing in making music, but it sounds like you're involved
more fir making some sort if cash flow as opposed to just making music for
the sake of art/the love of it.

If I were a musician, I'd be flattered my music was being shared. At least
it's good enough to be shared. If people dig it, they will buy it. There
are a ton of artists I invested in after I downloaded their stuff.

The investment is there for you, don't blame file sharing for losing sales.
Maybe people want to try before they buy, bc technology in this day and age
allows them to do so.

Just saying.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 7, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "David Newman" <> wrote:



To the thoughtless idiots....

So here I am 3 weeks from the release of a beautiful album by A Dancing
Beggar.


http://www.audiobulb.com/albums/AB036/AB036.htm

The album has been sent out as per usual to 120 reviewers on our promo list.
One or more of these people who purport to support independent music and
small labels has uploaded the album onto every file sharing platform there
is.

So it's out - people can help themselves for free. The £200 I spent on
postage won't get recouped, the £750 I spent on making the CD won't get
recouped.

Some people think it's easy balancing the books if you are a record small
record company - I can tell you it is not. I only made 500 of these and if I
don't get close to £900 back I can see Audiobulb sinking/closing for good.

So you may be thinking why am I ranting at you? Well I don't know who has
done this - they hide behind stupid names in Fileshare etc - but whoever you
are - you are selfish, thoughtless and stupid.


David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb
Records > Exploratory music



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Absolutely Dene - we are being shafted - robbed - taken advatage of -
disrespected.


David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb
Records > Exploratory music



_____

From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Dene
Carter
Sent: 07 May 2011 16:34
To: Maya R. Odinezenko
Cc: David Newman; <>; ambient;

Subject: Re: (amb) Thoughtless idiots who masquerade as supporters of small
labels


I imagine that if this happened at some point after the release it might
have seemed less painful.

I can quite understand why a bootlegged copy's existence spoils the launch
and undermines all the effort that went into producing the work whether it
ultimately hurt sales or not (a subject much debated elsewhere).

Musicians and their promoters should at least have a choice when their work
becomes available as a whole. In the world of increasingly 'democratised'
media and distribution, creatives and those who aid them seem to have few
rights left.


On 7 May 2011 16:10, Maya R. Odinezenko <> wrote:


Honestly, I really wouldn't complain.

I know this will come off as harsh, but it really bothers me people use this
list more for promoting their own stuff than just talking about ambient
music.

You're already investing in making music, but it sounds like you're involved
more fir making some sort if cash flow as opposed to just making music for
the sake of art/the love of it.

If I were a musician, I'd be flattered my music was being shared. At least
it's good enough to be shared. If people dig it, they will buy it. There
are a ton of artists I invested in after I downloaded their stuff.

The investment is there for you, don't blame file sharing for losing sales.
Maybe people want to try before they buy, bc technology in this day and age
allows them to do so.

Just saying.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 7, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "David Newman" <> wrote:



To the thoughtless idiots....

So here I am 3 weeks from the release of a beautiful album by A Dancing
Beggar.


http://www.audiobulb.com/albums/AB036/AB036.htm

The album has been sent out as per usual to 120 reviewers on our promo list.
One or more of these people who purport to support independent music and
small labels has uploaded the album onto every file sharing platform there
is.

So it's out - people can help themselves for free. The £200 I spent on
postage won't get recouped, the £750 I spent on making the CD won't get
recouped.

Some people think it's easy balancing the books if you are a record small
record company - I can tell you it is not. I only made 500 of these and if I
don't get close to £900 back I can see Audiobulb sinking/closing for good.

So you may be thinking why am I ranting at you? Well I don't know who has
done this - they hide behind stupid names in Fileshare etc - but whoever you
are - you are selfish, thoughtless and stupid.


David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb Records > Exploratory music






--
http://www.fluttermind.com

Flaboo! now available on the App Store:
http://www.itunes.com/apps/Flaboo

_____


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I can understand your point Darren, but on the other hand I think that due to so much music available you need to have some kind of filter (and magazines and radios, can function like that in a sense), or you can invest in a label for a lot of time (and build the respect of the community) and maybe, just maybe you can reach the point where the self promotional tools work out as a "domino effect", as an example, I run a "netlabel" as you know and after 1 week, no one talks about the music anymore, no one tweets it, no one "likes it", if you look at the best available stats to understand this phenomenon, you will see that after 2 weeks, 1 month maximum (with few exceptions) the number of downloads decrease to almost zero. so I think the magazines help to keep the momentum going.

Of course, I am talking about labels and artists that hardly get any money out of there releases, but that doesn't mean they don't deserve it (on the contrary), but they truly do it for their love to music.

Kindly,

Leonardo Rosado by FeedbackLoop Label

On May 7, 2011, at 5:32 PM, darren harper wrote:

> I'm having a hard time getting past the accusation made that David Newman(Autistici), the labels he runs (Audiobulb , Audiomoves) and then by extension the artists he represents, are simply in this for the 'cash flow'.
>
> Beyond ludicrous, and this is clearly a case of being taken advantage of.....betrayed even.
>
> Is it necessary to send out these 'promotional packages' to reviewers anymore? I'm very naive to this, but it seems to me, with all the self-promoting tools we have at our disposal (lists like this, soundcloud, facebook, etc..) that, save for the few wonderful reviewers we have on the Ambient list, sending out pre-release packages are becoming a thing of the past? Like I said, I'm naive to this end of things...
>
> Sorry this has happened, David.
>
> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:10 AM, J Zachary <> wrote:
> 1. I like to hear about new releases directly from small labels and
> independent artists on this list. The more info about these releases
> I have, the more likely I am to purchase.
>
> 2. Audiobulb is a fine label that deserves support for their
> investment in independent musicians.
>
> 3. It is ironic that Audiobulb provides promotional material at their
> expense to someone that then poisons the well so to speak.
>
> 4. I encourage everyone to use this incident to support David's label
> in a twist of irony on the bootleggers.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:10 AM, David Newman <> wrote:
> > Absolutely Dene - we are being shafted - robbed - taken advatage of -
> > disrespected.
> >
> >
> > David Newman
> >
> > http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves > Digital audio solutions
> >
> > http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb Records > Exploratory music
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Dene
> > Carter
> > Sent: 07 May 2011 16:34
> > To: Maya R. Odinezenko
> > Cc: David Newman; <>; ambient;
> >
> > Subject: Re: (amb) Thoughtless idiots who masquerade as supporters of small
> > labels
> >
> > I imagine that if this happened at some point after the release it might
> > have seemed less painful.
> >
> > I can quite understand why a bootlegged copy's existence spoils the launch
> > and undermines all the effort that went into producing the work whether it
> > ultimately hurt sales or not (a subject much debated elsewhere).
> >
> > Musicians and their promoters should at least have a choice when their work
> > becomes available as a whole. In the world of increasingly 'democratised'
> > media and distribution, creatives and those who aid them seem to have few
> > rights left.
> >
> > On 7 May 2011 16:10, Maya R. Odinezenko <> wrote:
> >>
> >> Honestly, I really wouldn't complain.
> >> I know this will come off as harsh, but it really bothers me people use
> >> this list more for promoting their own stuff than just talking about ambient
> >> music.
> >> You're already investing in making music, but it sounds like you're
> >> involved more fir making some sort if cash flow as opposed to just making
> >> music for the sake of art/the love of it.
> >> If I were a musician, I'd be flattered my music was being shared. At
> >> least it's good enough to be shared. If people dig it, they will buy it.
> >> There are a ton of artists I invested in after I downloaded their stuff.
> >> The investment is there for you, don't blame file sharing for losing
> >> sales. Maybe people want to try before they buy, bc technology in this day
> >> and age allows them to do so.
> >> Just saying.
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> On May 7, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "David Newman" <> wrote:
> >>
> >> To the thoughtless idiots....
> >>
> >> So here I am 3 weeks from the release of a beautiful album by A Dancing
> >> Beggar.
> >>
> >> http://www.audiobulb.com/albums/AB036/AB036.htm
> >>
> >> The album has been sent out as per usual to 120 reviewers on our promo
> >> list. One or more of these people who purport to support independent music
> >> and small labels has uploaded the album onto every file sharing platform
> >> there is.
> >>
> >> So it's out - people can help themselves for free. The £200 I spent on
> >> postage won't get recouped, the £750 I spent on making the CD won't get
> >> recouped.
> >>
> >> Some people think it's easy balancing the books if you are a record small
> >> record company - I can tell you it is not. I only made 500 of these and if I
> >> don't get close to £900 back I can see Audiobulb sinking/closing for good.
> >>
> >> So you may be thinking why am I ranting at you? Well I don't know who has
> >> done this - they hide behind stupid names in Fileshare etc - but whoever you
> >> are - you are selfish, thoughtless and stupid.
> >>
> >>
> >> David Newman
> >>
> >> http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves > Digital audio solutions
> >>
> >> http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb Records > Exploratory music
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.fluttermind.com
> >
> > Flaboo! now available on the App Store:
> > http://www.itunes.com/apps/Flaboo
> > ________________________________
> >
> > No virus found in this message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3621 - Release Date: 05/06/11
>
>
>
> --
> "Any act, if in accordance with the Will, is an act of Magick"
>
> http://soundcloud.com/darrenharper
> http://metameme.org
> http://darrenjh.blogspot.com/
>
>



I think for the small independent labels (as David points out about Audiobulb) the question is not to loose money with each release, instead of the "massive profit" being cut by torrents

Leonardo Rosado by FeedbackLoop Label

On May 7, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Maya R. Odinezenko wrote:

> Honestly, I really wouldn't complain.
>
> I know this will come off as harsh, but it really bothers me people use this list more for promoting their own stuff than just talking about ambient music.
>
> You're already investing in making music, but it sounds like you're involved more fir making some sort if cash flow as opposed to just making music for the sake of art/the love of it.
>
> If I were a musician, I'd be flattered my music was being shared. At least it's good enough to be shared. If people dig it, they will buy it. There are a ton of artists I invested in after I downloaded their stuff.
>
> The investment is there for you, don't blame file sharing for losing sales. Maybe people want to try before they buy, bc technology in this day and age allows them to do so.
>
> Just saying.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 7, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "David Newman" <> wrote:
>
>> To the thoughtless idiots....
>>
>> So here I am 3 weeks from the release of a beautiful album by A Dancing Beggar.
>>
>> http://www.audiobulb.com/albums/AB036/AB036.htm
>>
>> The album has been sent out as per usual to 120 reviewers on our promo list. One or more of these people who purport to support independent music and small labels has uploaded the album onto every file sharing platform there is.
>>
>> So it's out - people can help themselves for free. The £200 I spent on postage won't get recouped, the £750 I spent on making the CD won't get recouped.
>>
>> Some people think it's easy balancing the books if you are a record small record company - I can tell you it is not. I only made 500 of these and if I don't get close to £900 back I can see Audiobulb sinking/closing for good.
>>
>> So you may be thinking why am I ranting at you? Well I don't know who has done this - they hide behind stupid names in Fileshare etc - but whoever you are - you are selfish, thoughtless and stupid.
>>
>> David Newman
>>
>> http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves > Digital audio solutions
>>
>> http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb Records > Exploratory music
>>
>>

Maya

You are so naive

The artist has made the music over a course of years. It is ambient music.

He has worked on his craft to the point where a label is prepared to invest
in getting it made into a CD, promoted and sold.

I don't do this for the money - I do it for the love of the music. I work
hours and hours and hours per week on it. As well as hold down my main job.
I do it out of love for the music.

But if I invest £900 and don't receive a near break even return then I go
out of business and the music is not released.... the smaller labels get
forced out and we are left with myspace unsigned and the majors.



David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb
Records > Exploratory music



_____

From: Maya R. Odinezenko [mailto:]
Sent: 07 May 2011 16:11
To: David Newman
Cc: <>; ambient;

Subject: Re: (amb) Thoughtless idiots who masquerade as supporters of small
labels


Honestly, I really wouldn't complain.

I know this will come off as harsh, but it really bothers me people use this
list more for promoting their own stuff than just talking about ambient
music.

You're already investing in making music, but it sounds like you're involved
more fir making some sort if cash flow as opposed to just making music for
the sake of art/the love of it.

If I were a musician, I'd be flattered my music was being shared. At least
it's good enough to be shared. If people dig it, they will buy it. There
are a ton of artists I invested in after I downloaded their stuff.

The investment is there for you, don't blame file sharing for losing sales.
Maybe people want to try before they buy, bc technology in this day and age
allows them to do so.

Just saying.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 7, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "David Newman" <> wrote:



To the thoughtless idiots....

So here I am 3 weeks from the release of a beautiful album by A Dancing
Beggar.


http://www.audiobulb.com/albums/AB036/AB036.htm

The album has been sent out as per usual to 120 reviewers on our promo list.
One or more of these people who purport to support independent music and
small labels has uploaded the album onto every file sharing platform there
is.

So it's out - people can help themselves for free. The £200 I spent on
postage won't get recouped, the £750 I spent on making the CD won't get
recouped.

Some people think it's easy balancing the books if you are a record small
record company - I can tell you it is not. I only made 500 of these and if I
don't get close to £900 back I can see Audiobulb sinking/closing for good.

So you may be thinking why am I ranting at you? Well I don't know who has
done this - they hide behind stupid names in Fileshare etc - but whoever you
are - you are selfish, thoughtless and stupid.


David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb
Records > Exploratory music



_____

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Absolutely Dene - we are being shafted - robbed - taken advatage of -
disrespected.


David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb
Records > Exploratory music



_____

From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Dene
Carter
Sent: 07 May 2011 16:34
To: Maya R. Odinezenko
Cc: David Newman; <>; ambient;

Subject: Re: (amb) Thoughtless idiots who masquerade as supporters of small
labels


I imagine that if this happened at some point after the release it might
have seemed less painful.

I can quite understand why a bootlegged copy's existence spoils the launch
and undermines all the effort that went into producing the work whether it
ultimately hurt sales or not (a subject much debated elsewhere).

Musicians and their promoters should at least have a choice when their work
becomes available as a whole. In the world of increasingly 'democratised'
media and distribution, creatives and those who aid them seem to have few
rights left.


On 7 May 2011 16:10, Maya R. Odinezenko <> wrote:


Honestly, I really wouldn't complain.

I know this will come off as harsh, but it really bothers me people use this
list more for promoting their own stuff than just talking about ambient
music.

You're already investing in making music, but it sounds like you're involved
more fir making some sort if cash flow as opposed to just making music for
the sake of art/the love of it.

If I were a musician, I'd be flattered my music was being shared. At least
it's good enough to be shared. If people dig it, they will buy it. There
are a ton of artists I invested in after I downloaded their stuff.

The investment is there for you, don't blame file sharing for losing sales.
Maybe people want to try before they buy, bc technology in this day and age
allows them to do so.

Just saying.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 7, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "David Newman" <> wrote:



To the thoughtless idiots....

So here I am 3 weeks from the release of a beautiful album by A Dancing
Beggar.


http://www.audiobulb.com/albums/AB036/AB036.htm

The album has been sent out as per usual to 120 reviewers on our promo list.
One or more of these people who purport to support independent music and
small labels has uploaded the album onto every file sharing platform there
is.

So it's out - people can help themselves for free. The £200 I spent on
postage won't get recouped, the £750 I spent on making the CD won't get
recouped.

Some people think it's easy balancing the books if you are a record small
record company - I can tell you it is not. I only made 500 of these and if I
don't get close to £900 back I can see Audiobulb sinking/closing for good.

So you may be thinking why am I ranting at you? Well I don't know who has
done this - they hide behind stupid names in Fileshare etc - but whoever you
are - you are selfish, thoughtless and stupid.


David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb Records > Exploratory music






--
http://www.fluttermind.com

Flaboo! now available on the App Store:
http://www.itunes.com/apps/Flaboo

_____


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I can understand your point Darren, but on the other hand I think that due to so much music available you need to have some kind of filter (and magazines and radios, can function like that in a sense), or you can invest in a label for a lot of time (and build the respect of the community) and maybe, just maybe you can reach the point where the self promotional tools work out as a "domino effect", as an example, I run a "netlabel" as you know and after 1 week, no one talks about the music anymore, no one tweets it, no one "likes it", if you look at the best available stats to understand this phenomenon, you will see that after 2 weeks, 1 month maximum (with few exceptions) the number of downloads decrease to almost zero. so I think the magazines help to keep the momentum going.

Of course, I am talking about labels and artists that hardly get any money out of there releases, but that doesn't mean they don't deserve it (on the contrary), but they truly do it for their love to music.

Kindly,

Leonardo Rosado by FeedbackLoop Label

On May 7, 2011, at 5:32 PM, darren harper wrote:

> I'm having a hard time getting past the accusation made that David Newman(Autistici), the labels he runs (Audiobulb , Audiomoves) and then by extension the artists he represents, are simply in this for the 'cash flow'.
>
> Beyond ludicrous, and this is clearly a case of being taken advantage of.....betrayed even.
>
> Is it necessary to send out these 'promotional packages' to reviewers anymore? I'm very naive to this, but it seems to me, with all the self-promoting tools we have at our disposal (lists like this, soundcloud, facebook, etc..) that, save for the few wonderful reviewers we have on the Ambient list, sending out pre-release packages are becoming a thing of the past? Like I said, I'm naive to this end of things...
>
> Sorry this has happened, David.
>
> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:10 AM, J Zachary <> wrote:
> 1. I like to hear about new releases directly from small labels and
> independent artists on this list. The more info about these releases
> I have, the more likely I am to purchase.
>
> 2. Audiobulb is a fine label that deserves support for their
> investment in independent musicians.
>
> 3. It is ironic that Audiobulb provides promotional material at their
> expense to someone that then poisons the well so to speak.
>
> 4. I encourage everyone to use this incident to support David's label
> in a twist of irony on the bootleggers.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:10 AM, David Newman <> wrote:
> > Absolutely Dene - we are being shafted - robbed - taken advatage of -
> > disrespected.
> >
> >
> > David Newman
> >
> > http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves > Digital audio solutions
> >
> > http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb Records > Exploratory music
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Dene
> > Carter
> > Sent: 07 May 2011 16:34
> > To: Maya R. Odinezenko
> > Cc: David Newman; <>; ambient;
> >
> > Subject: Re: (amb) Thoughtless idiots who masquerade as supporters of small
> > labels
> >
> > I imagine that if this happened at some point after the release it might
> > have seemed less painful.
> >
> > I can quite understand why a bootlegged copy's existence spoils the launch
> > and undermines all the effort that went into producing the work whether it
> > ultimately hurt sales or not (a subject much debated elsewhere).
> >
> > Musicians and their promoters should at least have a choice when their work
> > becomes available as a whole. In the world of increasingly 'democratised'
> > media and distribution, creatives and those who aid them seem to have few
> > rights left.
> >
> > On 7 May 2011 16:10, Maya R. Odinezenko <> wrote:
> >>
> >> Honestly, I really wouldn't complain.
> >> I know this will come off as harsh, but it really bothers me people use
> >> this list more for promoting their own stuff than just talking about ambient
> >> music.
> >> You're already investing in making music, but it sounds like you're
> >> involved more fir making some sort if cash flow as opposed to just making
> >> music for the sake of art/the love of it.
> >> If I were a musician, I'd be flattered my music was being shared. At
> >> least it's good enough to be shared. If people dig it, they will buy it.
> >> There are a ton of artists I invested in after I downloaded their stuff.
> >> The investment is there for you, don't blame file sharing for losing
> >> sales. Maybe people want to try before they buy, bc technology in this day
> >> and age allows them to do so.
> >> Just saying.
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> On May 7, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "David Newman" <> wrote:
> >>
> >> To the thoughtless idiots....
> >>
> >> So here I am 3 weeks from the release of a beautiful album by A Dancing
> >> Beggar.
> >>
> >> http://www.audiobulb.com/albums/AB036/AB036.htm
> >>
> >> The album has been sent out as per usual to 120 reviewers on our promo
> >> list. One or more of these people who purport to support independent music
> >> and small labels has uploaded the album onto every file sharing platform
> >> there is.
> >>
> >> So it's out - people can help themselves for free. The £200 I spent on
> >> postage won't get recouped, the £750 I spent on making the CD won't get
> >> recouped.
> >>
> >> Some people think it's easy balancing the books if you are a record small
> >> record company - I can tell you it is not. I only made 500 of these and if I
> >> don't get close to £900 back I can see Audiobulb sinking/closing for good.
> >>
> >> So you may be thinking why am I ranting at you? Well I don't know who has
> >> done this - they hide behind stupid names in Fileshare etc - but whoever you
> >> are - you are selfish, thoughtless and stupid.
> >>
> >>
> >> David Newman
> >>
> >> http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves > Digital audio solutions
> >>
> >> http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb Records > Exploratory music
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.fluttermind.com
> >
> > Flaboo! now available on the App Store:
> > http://www.itunes.com/apps/Flaboo
> > ________________________________
> >
> > No virus found in this message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3621 - Release Date: 05/06/11
>
>
>
> --
> "Any act, if in accordance with the Will, is an act of Magick"
>
> http://soundcloud.com/darrenharper
> http://metameme.org
> http://darrenjh.blogspot.com/
>
>



I think for the small independent labels (as David points out about Audiobulb) the question is not to loose money with each release, instead of the "massive profit" being cut by torrents

Leonardo Rosado by FeedbackLoop Label

On May 7, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Maya R. Odinezenko wrote:

> Honestly, I really wouldn't complain.
>
> I know this will come off as harsh, but it really bothers me people use this list more for promoting their own stuff than just talking about ambient music.
>
> You're already investing in making music, but it sounds like you're involved more fir making some sort if cash flow as opposed to just making music for the sake of art/the love of it.
>
> If I were a musician, I'd be flattered my music was being shared. At least it's good enough to be shared. If people dig it, they will buy it. There are a ton of artists I invested in after I downloaded their stuff.
>
> The investment is there for you, don't blame file sharing for losing sales. Maybe people want to try before they buy, bc technology in this day and age allows them to do so.
>
> Just saying.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 7, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "David Newman" <> wrote:
>
>> To the thoughtless idiots....
>>
>> So here I am 3 weeks from the release of a beautiful album by A Dancing Beggar.
>>
>> http://www.audiobulb.com/albums/AB036/AB036.htm
>>
>> The album has been sent out as per usual to 120 reviewers on our promo list. One or more of these people who purport to support independent music and small labels has uploaded the album onto every file sharing platform there is.
>>
>> So it's out - people can help themselves for free. The £200 I spent on postage won't get recouped, the £750 I spent on making the CD won't get recouped.
>>
>> Some people think it's easy balancing the books if you are a record small record company - I can tell you it is not. I only made 500 of these and if I don't get close to £900 back I can see Audiobulb sinking/closing for good.
>>
>> So you may be thinking why am I ranting at you? Well I don't know who has done this - they hide behind stupid names in Fileshare etc - but whoever you are - you are selfish, thoughtless and stupid.
>>
>> David Newman
>>
>> http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves > Digital audio solutions
>>
>> http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb Records > Exploratory music
>>
>>



I have never illegally downloaded music - fact.


David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb
Records > Exploratory music



_____

From: Maya R. Odinezenko [mailto:]
Sent: 08 May 2011 15:43
To: David Newman
Cc: <>; ambient;

Subject: Re: (amb) Thoughtless idiots who masquerade as supporters of small
labels


No, I am not naive.
I've been in the industry and I know how it is.

You're taking this way too personally, as in the person deliberately planned
to hurt you and specifically you only.

People do not share for an ego boost. They share bc they want people to
hear what they feel is great music. And they will buy the CD. If they
don't buy today, they will tomorrow. They *WILL* always buy. For those who
don't buy this release, they'll buy the next one. However, as long as one
puts out quality, they'll always be able to sell it.

Do not think like a major label, bc look at the state they're all in. They
cry and cry and still make cookie cutter crap.

For the love of music, please get off your high horse and calm down. I bet
you've downloaded music before. You cannot say you didn't, bc anyone who
owns a computer and has a brain downloads music.

A ton of people in the industry download music.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 7, 2011, at 12:08 PM, "David Newman" <> wrote:



Maya

You are so naive

The artist has made the music over a course of years. It is ambient music.

He has worked on his craft to the point where a label is prepared to invest
in getting it made into a CD, promoted and sold.

I don't do this for the money - I do it for the love of the music. I work
hours and hours and hours per week on it. As well as hold down my main job.
I do it out of love for the music.

But if I invest £900 and don't receive a near break even return then I go
out of business and the music is not released.... the smaller labels get
forced out and we are left with myspace unsigned and the majors.



David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb
Records > Exploratory music



_____

From: Maya R. Odinezenko [mailto:]
Sent: 07 May 2011 16:11
To: David Newman
Cc: <>; ambient;

Subject: Re: (amb) Thoughtless idiots who masquerade as supporters of small
labels


Honestly, I really wouldn't complain.

I know this will come off as harsh, but it really bothers me people use this
list more for promoting their own stuff than just talking about ambient
music.

You're already investing in making music, but it sounds like you're involved
more fir making some sort if cash flow as opposed to just making music for
the sake of art/the love of it.

If I were a musician, I'd be flattered my music was being shared. At least
it's good enough to be shared. If people dig it, they will buy it. There
are a ton of artists I invested in after I downloaded their stuff.

The investment is there for you, don't blame file sharing for losing sales.
Maybe people want to try before they buy, bc technology in this day and age
allows them to do so.

Just saying.

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On May 7, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "David Newman" <
> wrote:



To the thoughtless idiots....

So here I am 3 weeks from the release of a beautiful album by A Dancing
Beggar.



http://www.audiobulb.com/albums/AB036/AB036.htm

The album has been sent out as per usual to 120 reviewers on our promo list.
One or more of these people who purport to support independent music and
small labels has uploaded the album onto every file sharing platform there
is.

So it's out - people can help themselves for free. The £200 I spent on
postage won't get recouped, the £750 I spent on making the CD won't get
recouped.

Some people think it's easy balancing the books if you are a record small
record company - I can tell you it is not. I only made 500 of these and if I
don't get close to £900 back I can see Audiobulb sinking/closing for good.

So you may be thinking why am I ranting at you? Well I don't know who has
done this - they hide behind stupid names in Fileshare etc - but whoever you
are - you are selfish, thoughtless and stupid.


David Newman

http://www.audiomoves.com | Audiomoves >
Digital audio solutions

http://www.audiobulb.com | Audiobulb
Records > Exploratory music



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