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Hi all,
So excited by this great weather! Whoo hoo!!
Anyone know where to get red wigglers around here? I know I can mail order
them, but would prefer to use a local source if there is one...
Thanks!
Monique

I'm sure there are local sources, but I've always wanted to order them from Maggie Pipkin, the delightful little old lady on Buzzards' Bay who's been selling them since before anyone heard of vermiculture!!

http://capecodwormfarm.com/

I visited her years ago. A real pioneer :)

Jane

On Apr 11, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Monique Chaplin wrote:

> Hi all,
> So excited by this great weather! Whoo hoo!!
> Anyone know where to get red wigglers around here? I know I can mail order them, but would prefer to use a local source if there is one...
> Thanks!
> Monique
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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Monique Chaplin <> wrote:

> Hi all,
> So excited by this great weather! Whoo hoo!!
> Anyone know where to get red wigglers around here? I know I can mail order
> them, but would prefer to use a local source if there is one...
>

Isn't there a bait shop on Mass Ave in East Arlington? Would they have such
specialized worms?

Meg Muckenhoupt

I was just checking by worm bin over the weekend. The little guys are
looking good. I probably wouldn't give you as many as you'd get from the
lovely lady in Buzzard's Bay, but I'm sure local.

Feel free to get in touch. (Realistically, unlikely to be home at a
reasonable time for distributing worms before Friday.)

JKS

On 4/11/2011 4:31 PM, Monique Chaplin wrote:
> Hi all,
> So excited by this great weather! Whoo hoo!!
> Anyone know where to get red wigglers around here? I know I can mail
> order them, but would prefer to use a local source if there is one...
> Thanks!
> Monique
>
>
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turns out Arlington Bait and Tackle sell them for $2.95 for 25 (but when you buy
them mail order, you usually get ~1000 for about $20.00. Will be looking into
alternative sources, much as I perfer to support my local provider....

________________________________
From: Meg Muckenhoupt <>
To: Monique Chaplin <>
Cc:
Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 4:39:32 PM
Subject: Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Monique Chaplin <> wrote:

Hi all,
>So excited by this great weather! Whoo hoo!!
>Anyone know where to get red wigglers around here? I know I can mail order
>them, but would prefer to use a local source if there is one...
>

Isn't there a bait shop on Mass Ave in East Arlington? Would they have such
specialized worms?

Meg Muckenhoupt

I bought 1000 red wigglers recently from Uncle Jim's:
http://www.unclejimswormfarm.com

Cost = $20

I was happy with the service, although I would have liked to have bought
from a more local source as well.

Todd

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Monique Chaplin <> wrote:

> turns out Arlington Bait and Tackle sell them for $2.95 for 25 (but when
> you buy them mail order, you usually get ~1000 for about $20.00. Will be
> looking into alternative sources, much as I perfer to support my local
> provider....
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Meg Muckenhoupt <>
> *To:* Monique Chaplin <>
> *Cc:*
> *Sent:* Mon, April 11, 2011 4:39:32 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Monique Chaplin <>wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> So excited by this great weather! Whoo hoo!!
>> Anyone know where to get red wigglers around here? I know I can mail
>> order them, but would prefer to use a local source if there is one...
>>
>
> Isn't there a bait shop on Mass Ave in East Arlington? Would they have
> such specialized worms?
>
>
> Meg Muckenhoupt
>
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>

I have a worm bin and would be happy to share some worms- you really
don't need that many to get started.
Mimi

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> Thanks!
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Maggie Pipkin, Buzzards Bay. http://capecodwormfarm.com/

She's been selling worms and their accoutrements since 1974 (when we were but babes!).

I'm looking forward to a worm farm, too, later on in the summer probably. If anyone wants to carpool out there, it would be a fun trip. I've visited her years back, but wasn't ready to become a vermiculturist. Now's the time :)

Jane

On Apr 11, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Todd Hay wrote:

> I bought 1000 red wigglers recently from Uncle Jim's: http://www.unclejimswormfarm.com
>
> Cost = $20
>
> I was happy with the service, although I would have liked to have bought from a more local source as well.
>
> Todd
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Monique Chaplin <> wrote:
> turns out Arlington Bait and Tackle sell them for $2.95 for 25 (but when you buy them mail order, you usually get ~1000 for about $20.00. Will be looking into alternative sources, much as I perfer to support my local provider....
>
> From: Meg Muckenhoupt <>
> To: Monique Chaplin <>
> Cc:
> Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 4:39:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Monique Chaplin <> wrote:
> Hi all,
> So excited by this great weather! Whoo hoo!!
> Anyone know where to get red wigglers around here? I know I can mail order them, but would prefer to use a local source if there is one...
>
> Isn't there a bait shop on Mass Ave in East Arlington? Would they have such specialized worms?
>
>
> Meg Muckenhoupt
>
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Jane Connor
*******************************
FYArlington
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http://www.fyarlington.org

I think worm farmers should be careful not to let them ecape froim their happy worm farm boxes, as they are not native.

Mary
----- Original Message -----
From: Jane Connor
To:
Cc: Monique Chaplin ;
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers

Maggie Pipkin, Buzzards Bay. http://capecodwormfarm.com/

She's been selling worms and their accoutrements since 1974 (when we were but babes!).

I'm looking forward to a worm farm, too, later on in the summer probably. If anyone wants to carpool out there, it would be a fun trip. I've visited her years back, but wasn't ready to become a vermiculturist. Now's the time :)

Jane

On Apr 11, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Todd Hay wrote:

I bought 1000 red wigglers recently from Uncle Jim's: http://www.unclejimswormfarm.com

Cost = $20

I was happy with the service, although I would have liked to have bought from a more local source as well.

Todd

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Monique Chaplin <> wrote:

turns out Arlington Bait and Tackle sell them for $2.95 for 25 (but when you buy them mail order, you usually get ~1000 for about $20.00. Will be looking into alternative sources, much as I perfer to support my local provider....

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Meg Muckenhoupt <>
To: Monique Chaplin <>
Cc:
Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 4:39:32 PM
Subject: Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Monique Chaplin <> wrote:

Hi all,
So excited by this great weather! Whoo hoo!!
Anyone know where to get red wigglers around here? I know I can mail order them, but would prefer to use a local source if there is one...

Isn't there a bait shop on Mass Ave in East Arlington? Would they have such specialized worms?

Meg Muckenhoupt

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Personally, I'm planning on an electric fence, a moat, and a guard dog. But I thought red wigglers are the garden-variety guys... no? Are there really invasive worms? OMG.
J

On Apr 12, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Mary Gilbert wrote:

> I think worm farmers should be careful not to let them ecape froim their happy worm farm boxes, as they are not native.
>
> Mary
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jane Connor
> To:
> Cc: Monique Chaplin ;
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers
>
> Maggie Pipkin, Buzzards Bay. http://capecodwormfarm.com/
>
> She's been selling worms and their accoutrements since 1974 (when we were but babes!).
>
> I'm looking forward to a worm farm, too, later on in the summer probably. If anyone wants to carpool out there, it would be a fun trip. I've visited her years back, but wasn't ready to become a vermiculturist. Now's the time :)
>
> Jane
>
>
>
> On Apr 11, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Todd Hay wrote:
>
>> I bought 1000 red wigglers recently from Uncle Jim's: http://www.unclejimswormfarm.com
>>
>> Cost = $20
>>
>> I was happy with the service, although I would have liked to have bought from a more local source as well.
>>
>> Todd
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Monique Chaplin <> wrote:
>> turns out Arlington Bait and Tackle sell them for $2.95 for 25 (but when you buy them mail order, you usually get ~1000 for about $20.00. Will be looking into alternative sources, much as I perfer to support my local provider....
>>
>> From: Meg Muckenhoupt <>
>> To: Monique Chaplin <>
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 4:39:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Monique Chaplin <> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> So excited by this great weather! Whoo hoo!!
>> Anyone know where to get red wigglers around here? I know I can mail order them, but would prefer to use a local source if there is one...
>>
>> Isn't there a bait shop on Mass Ave in East Arlington? Would they have such specialized worms?
>>
>>
>> Meg Muckenhoupt
>>
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>
> Jane Connor
> *******************************
> FYArlington
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> http://www.fyarlington.org
>
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Jane Connor
*******************************
FYArlington
For Your Town. For Your Schools. For Your Arlington.
http://www.fyarlington.org

Worms are not native to North America but are so completely
entrenched and pervasive that they are now an irrefutable truth.

Unless Mary had some specific point about red wigglers?

-- Diane

At 10:59 AM 4/12/2011, Jane Connor wrote:
>Personally, I'm planning on an electric fence, a moat, and a guard
>dog. But I thought red wigglers are the garden-variety guys...
>no? Are there really invasive worms? OMG.
>J
>
>
>On Apr 12, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Mary Gilbert wrote:
>
>>I think worm farmers should be careful not to let them ecape froim
>>their happy worm farm boxes, as they are not native.
>>
>>Mary
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Jane Connor
>>To:
>>Cc: Monique Chaplin ;
>>
>>Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 7:20 PM
>>Subject: Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers
>>
>>Maggie Pipkin, Buzzards
>>Bay. http://capecodwormfarm.com/
>>
>>She's been selling worms and their accoutrements since 1974 (when
>>we were but babes!).
>>
>>I'm looking forward to a worm farm, too, later on in the summer
>>probably. If anyone wants to carpool out there, it would be a fun
>>trip. I've visited her years back, but wasn't ready to become a
>>vermiculturist. Now's the time :)
>>
>>Jane
>>
>>
>>
>>On Apr 11, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Todd Hay wrote:
>>
>>>I bought 1000 red wigglers recently from Uncle
>>>Jim's: http://www.unclejimswormfarm.com
>>>
>>>Cost = $20
>>>
>>>I was happy with the service, although I would have liked to have
>>>bought from a more local source as well.
>>>
>>>Todd
>>>
>>>On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Monique Chaplin
>>><> wrote:
>>>turns out Arlington Bait and Tackle sell them for $2.95 for 25
>>>(but when you buy them mail order, you usually get ~1000 for about
>>>$20.00. Will be looking into alternative sources, much as I
>>>perfer to support my local provider....
>>>
>>>
>>>From: Meg Muckenhoupt <>
>>>To: Monique Chaplin <>
>>>Cc:
>>>Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 4:39:32 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Monique Chaplin
>>><> wrote:
>>>Hi all,
>>>So excited by this great weather! Whoo hoo!!
>>>Anyone know where to get red wigglers around here? I know I can
>>>mail order them, but would prefer to use a local source if there is one...
>>>
>>>
>>>Isn't there a bait shop on Mass Ave in East Arlington? Would they
>>>have such specialized worms?
>>>
>>>
>>>Meg Muckenhoupt
>>>
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>>
>>Jane Connor
>>*******************************
>>FYArlington
>>For Your Town. For Your Schools. For Your Arlington.
>>http://www.fyarlington.org
>>
>>
>>
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Why do I know this stuff?...

On Apr 12, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Mary Gilbert wrote:
> I think worm farmers should be careful not to let them ecape froim
> their happy worm farm boxes, as they are not native

Worms are not native[1]; they arrived with the Europeans. Big change
that.

But, it is my understanding the vermiculture worms are very unlikely
to over winter in New England.

[1] http://www.westchestergov.com/parks/pdfs/CoCArchives/InvasiveNonNativeEarthworms.pdf

My understanding re: worms is that none of them are native to this area
(don't know if that means the entire NA continent -- that's what I think
it means) and while they are beneficial in agricultural contexts (which
of course overwhelmingly involve non-native plants) they are no friend
to the forest.

OTOH, they've been living here since they were brought by the European
invaders, so I'm not sure how much difference what we do at this point
can make. I'd love to be enlightened if others have more information. I
also believe that the red wigglers used in worm composting are worms
that typically live in manure piles, and don't overwinter in this
climate w/o a heat source. But I'm also no 100% sure on that. Maybe
their eggs will overwinter regardless of the cold. Anybody know?

But if you're going to put the resulting worm compost anywhere, you're
going to be taking a gazillion worm eggs and little bitty worms with it,
unless you take some active steps to kill them, and I have no idea what
such steps would be.

JKS

On 4/12/2011 10:59 AM, Jane Connor wrote:
> Personally, I'm planning on an electric fence, a moat, and a guard
> dog. But I thought red wigglers are the garden-variety guys... no?
> Are there really invasive worms? OMG.
> J
>
>
> On Apr 12, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Mary Gilbert wrote:
>
>> I think worm farmers should be careful not to let them ecape froim
>> their happy worm farm boxes, as they are not native.
>> Mary
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:*Jane Connor
>> *To:*
>> *Cc:*Monique Chaplin
>> ;
>>
>> *Sent:*Monday, April 11, 2011 7:20 PM
>> *Subject:*Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers
>>
>> Maggie Pipkin, Buzzards Bay. http://capecodwormfarm.com/
>>
>> She's been selling worms and their accoutrements since 1974 (when
>> we were but babes!).
>>
>> I'm looking forward to a worm farm, too, later on in the summer
>> probably. If anyone wants to carpool out there, it would be a
>> fun trip. I've visited her years back, but wasn't ready to
>> become a vermiculturist. Now's the time :)
>>
>> Jane
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 11, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Todd Hay wrote:
>>
>>> I bought 1000 red wigglers recently from Uncle Jim's:
>>> http://www.unclejimswormfarm.com
>>>
>>> Cost = $20
>>>
>>> I was happy with the service, although I would have liked to
>>> have bought from a more local source as well.
>>>
>>> Todd
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Monique
>>> Chaplin< >wrote:
>>>
>>> turns out Arlington Bait and Tackle sell them for $2.95 for
>>> 25 (but when you buy them mail order, you usually get ~1000
>>> for about $20.00. Will be looking into alternative sources,
>>> much as I perfer to support my local provider....
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:*Meg Muckenhoupt <
>>> >
>>> *To:*Monique Chaplin <
>>> >
>>> *Cc:*
>>>
>>> *Sent:*Mon, April 11, 2011 4:39:32 PM
>>> *Subject:*Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Monique
>>> Chaplin< >wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> So excited by this great weather! Whoo hoo!!
>>> Anyone know where to get red wigglers around here? I
>>> know I can mail order them, but would prefer to use a
>>> local source if there is one...
>>>
>>>
>>> Isn't there a bait shop on Mass Ave in East Arlington?
>>> Would they have such specialized worms?
>>>
>>>
>>> Meg Muckenhoupt
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>
>> Jane Connor
>> *******************************
>> FYArlington
>> For Your Town. For Your Schools. For Your Arlington.
>> http://www.fyarlington.org
>>
>>
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Here's something I didn't know... the red wigglers are a variety of earthworm, from Europe like the others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenia_foetida

Here is another article on the effect of earthworms on forests. It's from a Minnesota site but it's true for all of North America. Well, earthworms are wonderful for vegetable gardens. But how does one limit their spread?

Mary
----- Original Message -----
From: Jan Stetson
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers

My understanding re: worms is that none of them are native to this area (don't know if that means the entire NA continent -- that's what I think it means) and while they are beneficial in agricultural contexts (which of course overwhelmingly involve non-native plants) they are no friend to the forest.

OTOH, they've been living here since they were brought by the European invaders, so I'm not sure how much difference what we do at this point can make. I'd love to be enlightened if others have more information. I also believe that the red wigglers used in worm composting are worms that typically live in manure piles, and don't overwinter in this climate w/o a heat source. But I'm also no 100% sure on that. Maybe their eggs will overwinter regardless of the cold. Anybody know?

But if you're going to put the resulting worm compost anywhere, you're going to be taking a gazillion worm eggs and little bitty worms with it, unless you take some active steps to kill them, and I have no idea what such steps would be.

JKS

On 4/12/2011 10:59 AM, Jane Connor wrote:
Personally, I'm planning on an electric fence, a moat, and a guard dog. But I thought red wigglers are the garden-variety guys... no? Are there really invasive worms? OMG.
J

On Apr 12, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Mary Gilbert wrote:

I think worm farmers should be careful not to let them ecape froim their happy worm farm boxes, as they are not native.

Mary
----- Original Message -----
From: Jane Connor
To:
Cc: Monique Chaplin ;
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers

Maggie Pipkin, Buzzards Bay. http://capecodwormfarm.com/

She's been selling worms and their accoutrements since 1974 (when we were but babes!).

I'm looking forward to a worm farm, too, later on in the summer probably. If anyone wants to carpool out there, it would be a fun trip. I've visited her years back, but wasn't ready to become a vermiculturist. Now's the time :)

Jane

On Apr 11, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Todd Hay wrote:

I bought 1000 red wigglers recently from Uncle Jim's: http://www.unclejimswormfarm.com

Cost = $20

I was happy with the service, although I would have liked to have bought from a more local source as well.

Todd

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Monique Chaplin <> wrote:

turns out Arlington Bait and Tackle sell them for $2.95 for 25 (but when you buy them mail order, you usually get ~1000 for about $20.00. Will be looking into alternative sources, much as I perfer to support my local provider....

--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Meg Muckenhoupt <>
To: Monique Chaplin <>
Cc:
Sent: Mon, April 11, 2011 4:39:32 PM
Subject: Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Monique Chaplin <> wrote:

Hi all,
So excited by this great weather! Whoo hoo!!
Anyone know where to get red wigglers around here? I know I can mail order them, but would prefer to use a local source if there is one...

Isn't there a bait shop on Mass Ave in East Arlington? Would they have such specialized worms?

Meg Muckenhoupt

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This is simply not an issue in this part of the country, or anywhere but
the few remaining places in the upper Midwest like Minnesota where there
are still some forests that haven't been colonized by earthworms. The
rest of our forests were long since invaded-- and changed-- by earthworms.

That's it's not a conservation/environmental issue anywhere except those
few remaining uncolonized forest tracts in Minnnesota. It's like
dandelions, way too late. It's done already.

The good/bad news is there's no need to worry about your red wigglers
getting loose.

Jane

On 4/12/2011 12:10 PM, Mary Gilbert wrote:
> Here's something I didn't know... the red wigglers are a variety of
> earthworm, from Europe like the others.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenia_foetida
> Here is another article on the effect of earthworms on forests. It's
> from a Minnesota site but it's true for all of North America. Well,
> earthworms are wonderful for vegetable gardens. But how does one limit
> their spread?
> Mary
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jan Stetson
> *To:*
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 12, 2011 11:15 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers
>
> My understanding re: worms is that none of them are native to this
> area (don't know if that means the entire NA continent -- that's
> what I think it means) and while they are beneficial in agricultural
> contexts (which of course overwhelmingly involve non-native plants)
> they are no friend to the forest.
>
> OTOH, they've been living here since they were brought by the
> European invaders, so I'm not sure how much difference what we do at
> this point can make. I'd love to be enlightened if others have more
> information. I also believe that the red wigglers used in worm
> composting are worms that typically live in manure piles, and don't
> overwinter in this climate w/o a heat source. But I'm also no 100%
> sure on that. Maybe their eggs will overwinter regardless of the
> cold. Anybody know?
>
> But if you're going to put the resulting worm compost anywhere,
> you're going to be taking a gazillion worm eggs and little bitty
> worms with it, unless you take some active steps to kill them, and I
> have no idea what such steps would be.
>
> JKS
>
> On 4/12/2011 10:59 AM, Jane Connor wrote:
>> Personally, I'm planning on an electric fence, a moat, and a guard
>> dog. But I thought red wigglers are the garden-variety guys... no?
>> Are there really invasive worms? OMG.
>> J
>>
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Mary Gilbert wrote:
>>
>>> I think worm farmers should be careful not to let them ecape
>>> froim their happy worm farm boxes, as they are not native.
>>> Mary
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:*Jane Connor
>>> *To:*
>>> *Cc:*Monique Chaplin
>>> ;
>>>
>>> *Sent:*Monday, April 11, 2011 7:20 PM
>>> *Subject:*Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers
>>>
>>> Maggie Pipkin, Buzzards Bay. http://capecodwormfarm.com/
>>>
>>> She's been selling worms and their accoutrements since 1974
>>> (when we were but babes!).
>>>
>>> I'm looking forward to a worm farm, too, later on in the
>>> summer probably. If anyone wants to carpool out there, it
>>> would be a fun trip. I've visited her years back, but wasn't
>>> ready to become a vermiculturist. Now's the time :)
>>>
>>> Jane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 11, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Todd Hay wrote:
>>>
>>>> I bought 1000 red wigglers recently from Uncle Jim's:
>>>> http://www.unclejimswormfarm.com
>>>>
>>>> Cost = $20
>>>>
>>>> I was happy with the service, although I would have liked to
>>>> have bought from a more local source as well.
>>>>
>>>> Todd
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Monique
>>>> Chaplin< >wrote:
>>>>
>>>> turns out Arlington Bait and Tackle sell them for $2.95
>>>> for 25 (but when you buy them mail order, you usually
>>>> get ~1000 for about $20.00. Will be looking into
>>>> alternative sources, much as I perfer to support my
>>>> local provider....
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:*Meg Muckenhoupt <
>>>> >
>>>> *To:*Monique Chaplin <
>>>> >
>>>> *Cc:*
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:*Mon, April 11, 2011 4:39:32 PM
>>>> *Subject:*Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Monique
>>>> Chaplin< >wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> So excited by this great weather! Whoo hoo!!
>>>> Anyone know where to get red wigglers around here? I
>>>> know I can mail order them, but would prefer to use
>>>> a local source if there is one...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Isn't there a bait shop on Mass Ave in East Arlington?
>>>> Would they have such specialized worms?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Meg Muckenhoupt
>>>>
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>>>
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This process of education is so strange: I'd had "worms" firmly in the "good," "green," "ecological," "beneficial" categories in my aging brain.

But no, it's not that simple. Thanks for the info everyone. I've had the Tallamy book on my shelf for months now. I guess I'm going to have to read it, not just wave it.

Jane

On Apr 12, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Jane Stein wrote:

> This is simply not an issue in this part of the country, or anywhere but the few remaining places in the upper Midwest like Minnesota where there are still some forests that haven't been colonized by earthworms. The rest of our forests were long since invaded-- and changed-- by earthworms.
>
> That's it's not a conservation/environmental issue anywhere except those few remaining uncolonized forest tracts in Minnnesota. It's like dandelions, way too late. It's done already.
>
> The good/bad news is there's no need to worry about your red wigglers getting loose.
>
> Jane
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4/12/2011 12:10 PM, Mary Gilbert wrote:
>> Here's something I didn't know... the red wigglers are a variety of
>> earthworm, from Europe like the others.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenia_foetida
>> Here is another article on the effect of earthworms on forests. It's
>> from a Minnesota site but it's true for all of North America. Well,
>> earthworms are wonderful for vegetable gardens. But how does one limit
>> their spread?
>> Mary
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Jan Stetson
>> *To:*
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 12, 2011 11:15 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers
>>
>> My understanding re: worms is that none of them are native to this
>> area (don't know if that means the entire NA continent -- that's
>> what I think it means) and while they are beneficial in agricultural
>> contexts (which of course overwhelmingly involve non-native plants)
>> they are no friend to the forest.
>>
>> OTOH, they've been living here since they were brought by the
>> European invaders, so I'm not sure how much difference what we do at
>> this point can make. I'd love to be enlightened if others have more
>> information. I also believe that the red wigglers used in worm
>> composting are worms that typically live in manure piles, and don't
>> overwinter in this climate w/o a heat source. But I'm also no 100%
>> sure on that. Maybe their eggs will overwinter regardless of the
>> cold. Anybody know?
>>
>> But if you're going to put the resulting worm compost anywhere,
>> you're going to be taking a gazillion worm eggs and little bitty
>> worms with it, unless you take some active steps to kill them, and I
>> have no idea what such steps would be.
>>
>> JKS
>>
>> On 4/12/2011 10:59 AM, Jane Connor wrote:
>>> Personally, I'm planning on an electric fence, a moat, and a guard
>>> dog. But I thought red wigglers are the garden-variety guys... no?
>>> Are there really invasive worms? OMG.
>>> J
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Mary Gilbert wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think worm farmers should be careful not to let them ecape
>>>> froim their happy worm farm boxes, as they are not native.
>>>> Mary
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> *From:*Jane Connor
>>>> *To:*
>>>> *Cc:*Monique Chaplin
>>>> ;
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:*Monday, April 11, 2011 7:20 PM
>>>> *Subject:*Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers
>>>>
>>>> Maggie Pipkin, Buzzards Bay. http://capecodwormfarm.com/
>>>>
>>>> She's been selling worms and their accoutrements since 1974
>>>> (when we were but babes!).
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking forward to a worm farm, too, later on in the
>>>> summer probably. If anyone wants to carpool out there, it
>>>> would be a fun trip. I've visited her years back, but wasn't
>>>> ready to become a vermiculturist. Now's the time :)
>>>>
>>>> Jane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 11, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Todd Hay wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I bought 1000 red wigglers recently from Uncle Jim's:
>>>>> http://www.unclejimswormfarm.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Cost = $20
>>>>>
>>>>> I was happy with the service, although I would have liked to
>>>>> have bought from a more local source as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Todd
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Monique
>>>>> Chaplin< >wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> turns out Arlington Bait and Tackle sell them for $2.95
>>>>> for 25 (but when you buy them mail order, you usually
>>>>> get ~1000 for about $20.00. Will be looking into
>>>>> alternative sources, much as I perfer to support my
>>>>> local provider....
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> *From:*Meg Muckenhoupt <
>>>>> >
>>>>> *To:*Monique Chaplin <
>>>>> >
>>>>> *Cc:*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sent:*Mon, April 11, 2011 4:39:32 PM
>>>>> *Subject:*Re: [menotomygardeners] red wigglers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Monique
>>>>> Chaplin< >wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> So excited by this great weather! Whoo hoo!!
>>>>> Anyone know where to get red wigglers around here? I
>>>>> know I can mail order them, but would prefer to use
>>>>> a local source if there is one...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't there a bait shop on Mass Ave in East Arlington?
>>>>> Would they have such specialized worms?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Meg Muckenhoupt
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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I'd never heard of it either until it came up on this very list several
years ago. At the time, I thought the idea that worms were "bad" for
the environment had to be some weird tinfoil hat idea coming out of the
truly lunatic fringe.

Turns out it's true, but it's an entirely moot point because the deed
has been done, which is why we never hear about it.

Jane 2

On 4/12/2011 3:08 PM, Jane Connor wrote:
> This process of education is so strange: I'd had "worms" firmly in
> the "good," "green," "ecological," "beneficial" categories in my
> aging brain.
>
> But no, it's not that simple. Thanks for the info everyone. I've
> had the Tallamy book on my shelf for months now. I guess I'm going
> to have to read it, not just wave it.
>
> Jane
>
> On Apr 12, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Jane Stein wrote:
>
>> This is simply not an issue in this part of the country, or
>> anywhere but the few remaining places in the upper Midwest like
>> Minnesota where there are still some forests that haven't been
>> colonized by earthworms. The rest of our forests were long since
>> invaded-- and changed-- by earthworms.
>>
>> That's it's not a conservation/environmental issue anywhere except
>> those few remaining uncolonized forest tracts in Minnnesota. It's
>> like dandelions, way too late. It's done already.
>>
>> The good/bad news is there's no need to worry about your red
>> wigglers getting loose.
>>
>> Jane
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/12/2011 12:10 PM, Mary Gilbert wrote:
>>> Here's something I didn't know... the red wigglers are a variety
>>> of earthworm, from Europe like the others.
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenia_foetida Here is another
>>> article on the effect of earthworms on forests. It's from a
>>> Minnesota site but it's true for all of North America. Well,
>>> earthworms are wonderful for vegetable gardens. But how does one
>>> limit their spread? Mary
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Jan
>>> Stetson *To:*
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April
>>> 12, 2011 11:15 AM *Subject:* Re: [menotomygardeners] red
>>> wigglers
>>>
>>> My understanding re: worms is that none of them are native to
>>> this area (don't know if that means the entire NA continent --
>>> that's what I think it means) and while they are beneficial in
>>> agricultural contexts (which of course overwhelmingly involve
>>> non-native plants) they are no friend to the forest.
>>>
>>> OTOH, they've been living here since they were brought by the
>>> European invaders, so I'm not sure how much difference what we do
>>> at this point can make. I'd love to be enlightened if others have
>>> more information. I also believe that the red wigglers used in
>>> worm composting are worms that typically live in manure piles,
>>> and don't overwinter in this climate w/o a heat source. But I'm
>>> also no 100% sure on that. Maybe their eggs will overwinter
>>> regardless of the cold. Anybody know?
>>>
>>> But if you're going to put the resulting worm compost anywhere,
>>> you're going to be taking a gazillion worm eggs and little bitty
>>> worms with it, unless you take some active steps to kill them,
>>> and I have no idea what such steps would be.
>>>
>>> JKS
>>>
>>> On 4/12/2011 10:59 AM, Jane Connor wrote:
>>>> Personally, I'm planning on an electric fence, a moat, and a
>>>> guard dog. But I thought red wigglers are the garden-variety
>>>> guys... no? Are there really invasive worms? OMG. J
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 12, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Mary Gilbert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think worm farmers should be careful not to let them ecape
>>>>> froim their happy worm farm boxes, as they are not native.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- *From:*Jane
>>>>> Connor
>>>>> *To:*
>>>>> *Cc:*Monique Chaplin
>>>>> ;
>>>>> *Sent:*Monday, April
>>>>> 11, 2011 7:20 PM *Subject:*Re: [menotomygardeners] red
>>>>> wigglers
>>>>>
>>>>> Maggie Pipkin, Buzzards Bay. http://capecodwormfarm.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> She's been selling worms and their accoutrements since 1974
>>>>> (when we were but babes!).
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking forward to a worm farm, too, later on in the
>>>>> summer probably. If anyone wants to carpool out there, it
>>>>> would be a fun trip. I've visited her years back, but wasn't
>>>>> ready to become a vermiculturist. Now's the time :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jane
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 11, 2011, at 4:59 PM, Todd Hay wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I bought 1000 red wigglers recently from Uncle Jim's:
>>>>>> http://www.unclejimswormfarm.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cost = $20
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was happy with the service, although I would have liked
>>>>>> to have bought from a more local source as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Todd
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Monique
>>>>>> Chaplin<>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> turns out Arlington Bait and Tackle sell them for $2.95 for
>>>>>> 25 (but when you buy them mail order, you usually get ~1000
>>>>>> for about $20.00. Will be looking into alternative sources,
>>>>>> much as I perfer to support my local provider....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
*From:*Meg Muckenhoupt<
>>>>>> > *To:*Monique
>>>>>> Chaplin< >
>>>>>> *Cc:*
>>>>>> *Sent:*Mon, April
>>>>>> 11, 2011 4:39:32 PM *Subject:*Re: [menotomygardeners] red
>>>>>> wigglers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Monique
>>>>>> Chaplin<>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all, So excited by this great weather! Whoo hoo!! Anyone
>>>>>> know where to get red wigglers around here? I know I can
>>>>>> mail order them, but would prefer to use a local source if
>>>>>> there is one...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't there a bait shop on Mass Ave in East Arlington?
>>>>>> Would they have such specialized worms?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meg Muckenhoupt
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