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19-03-2011 01:49 AM
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Hey,
as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to
do some changes to the category layout. The www category, second
largest with over 2000 individual ports, will have three subcategories
spinned out. On the other side, x11-servers category, with only
10 ports, will be folded into regular x11 category.
Attached is a proposed list of ports being moved from the www category.
Please review, discuss and report ommissions and mistakes. The general
key to the new categories is as follows:
www-clients - browsers, rss clients, wget-alike, webapi/soap clients,
benchmarks
www-servers - http servers, proxy servers, everything related to apache
www-webapps - web apps, frameworks, libraries
www (rest, not moved) - html editors, authoring tools, search engines ..
http://people.freebsd.org/~miwi/cat/www-client.txt
http://people.freebsd.org/~miwi/cat/www-server.txt
http://people.freebsd.org/~miwi/cat/www-webapps.txt
http://people.freebsd.org/~miwi/cat/www.txt
- Martin on behalf of portmgr
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# 2

19-03-2011 02:32 AM
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On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 09:49 +0800, Martin Wilke wrote:
> Attached is a proposed list of ports being moved from the www category.
> Please review, discuss and report ommissions and mistakes. The general
> key to the new categories is as follows:
[...]
> www-webapps - web apps, frameworks, libraries
Just a quick thought to the 'discuss' part: Is this (above) really the
best name possible?
I mean "world wide web-webapps" sounds kind of redundant.
m.
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# 3

19-03-2011 02:57 AM
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On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Michal Varga <> wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-03-19 at 09:49 +0800, Martin Wilke wrote:
>
>> Attached is a proposed list of ports being moved from the www category.
>> Please review, discuss and report ommissions and mistakes. The general
>> key to the new categories is as follows:
>
> [...]
>
>> www-webapps - web apps, frameworks, libraries
>
> Just a quick thought to the 'discuss' part: Is this (above) really the
> best name possible?
>
> I mean "world wide web-webapps" sounds kind of redundant.
>
> m.
www-devel may be preferred, since www-webapps contains the web frameworks, libs.
or may be devel-www :)
>
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> Michal Varga,
> Stonehenge (Gmail account)
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# 4

19-03-2011 04:51 AM
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On 3/18/2011 9:49 PM, Martin Wilke wrote:
> Hey,
>
> as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to
> do some changes to the category layout. The www category, second
> largest with over 2000 individual ports, will have three subcategories
> spinned out. On the other side, x11-servers category, with only
> 10 ports, will be folded into regular x11 category.
>
> Attached is a proposed list of ports being moved from the www category.
> Please review, discuss and report ommissions and mistakes. The general
> key to the new categories is as follows:
>
> www-clients - browsers, rss clients, wget-alike, webapi/soap clients,
> benchmarks
> www-servers - http servers, proxy servers, everything related to apache
Good idea or bad idea, it doesn't really matter. I actually kind of
like it. More importantly, you'll need to update Mk/bsd.apache.mk
regarding APACHE_PORT. And every end-user will need to update
/etc/make.conf to reflect this too.
If might be useful to coordinate this with the default switch from 1.3
to 2.2 b/c then supposedly most people who are using 2.2 can simply
remove then line. And the fewer, still needing 1.3 will need to add one
anyway.
Food to chew on......
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# 5

19-03-2011 04:53 AM
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On 3/18/2011 9:49 PM, Martin Wilke wrote:
> Hey,
>
> as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to
> do some changes to the category layout. The www category, second
> largest with over 2000 individual ports, will have three subcategories
> spinned out. On the other side, x11-servers category, with only
> 10 ports, will be folded into regular x11 category.
>
> Attached is a proposed list of ports being moved from the www category.
> Please review, discuss and report ommissions and mistakes. The general
> key to the new categories is as follows:
>
> www-clients - browsers, rss clients, wget-alike, webapi/soap clients,
> benchmarks
> www-servers - http servers, proxy servers, everything related to apache
How did you generate this list ?
- Did you set WITH_APACHE and build and INDEX and use that ?
- grep Makefile(s)
- Use Default INDEX ?
- Other ?
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# 6

19-03-2011 04:54 AM
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On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Philip M. Gollucci
<>wrote:
> On 3/18/2011 9:49 PM, Martin Wilke wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to
> > do some changes to the category layout. The www category, second
> > largest with over 2000 individual ports, will have three subcategories
> > spinned out. On the other side, x11-servers category, with only
> > 10 ports, will be folded into regular x11 category.
> >
> > Attached is a proposed list of ports being moved from the www category.
> > Please review, discuss and report ommissions and mistakes. The general
> > key to the new categories is as follows:
> >
> > www-clients - browsers, rss clients, wget-alike, webapi/soap clients,
> > benchmarks
> > www-servers - http servers, proxy servers, everything related to apache
>
> How did you generate this list ?
> - Did you set WITH_APACHE and build and INDEX and use that ?
> - grep Makefile(s)
> - Use Default INDEX ?
> - Other ?
>
>
> reading port by port from scratch...
>
>
>
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# 7

19-03-2011 04:54 AM
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On 3/19/2011 12:51 AM, Philip M. Gollucci wrote:
> On 3/18/2011 9:49 PM, Martin Wilke wrote:
>> Hey,
>>
>> as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to
>> do some changes to the category layout. The www category, second
>> largest with over 2000 individual ports, will have three subcategories
>> spinned out. On the other side, x11-servers category, with only
>> 10 ports, will be folded into regular x11 category.
>>
>> Attached is a proposed list of ports being moved from the www category.
>> Please review, discuss and report ommissions and mistakes. The general
>> key to the new categories is as follows:
>>
>> www-clients - browsers, rss clients, wget-alike, webapi/soap clients,
>> benchmarks
>> www-servers - http servers, proxy servers, everything related to apache
What is the plan for updating all the *_DEPENDS line? esp libapreq,
mod_perl ?
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# 8

19-03-2011 05:02 AM
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On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Philip M. Gollucci
<>wrote:
> On 3/19/2011 12:51 AM, Philip M. Gollucci wrote:
> > On 3/18/2011 9:49 PM, Martin Wilke wrote:
> >> Hey,
> >>
> >> as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to
> >> do some changes to the category layout. The www category, second
> >> largest with over 2000 individual ports, will have three subcategories
> >> spinned out. On the other side, x11-servers category, with only
> >> 10 ports, will be folded into regular x11 category.
> >>
> >> Attached is a proposed list of ports being moved from the www category.
> >> Please review, discuss and report ommissions and mistakes. The general
> >> key to the new categories is as follows:
> >>
> >> www-clients - browsers, rss clients, wget-alike, webapi/soap clients,
> >> benchmarks
> >> www-servers - http servers, proxy servers, everything related to apache
> What is the plan for updating all the *_DEPENDS line? esp libapreq,
> mod_perl ?
>
>
Plan is like this:
I will start working on my own portstree to fix all dependencies, when am
done what should go fast, exp-run and portmgr review my patches for Mk/,
waiting for exp-run results, fixing
all fallouts, rerun exp-run, and request repocopies... and finally commit..
>
>
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# 9

19-03-2011 07:52 AM
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Martin Wilke ha scritto:
> www-clients - browsers, rss clients, wget-alike, webapi/soap clients,
> benchmarks
> www-servers - http servers, proxy servers, everything related to apache
> www-webapps - web apps, frameworks, libraries
> www (rest, not moved) - html editors, authoring tools, search engines ..
I was wondering where you put httpcore and httpclient, two java
libraries. Even if they are not "webapp", from this categorization I'd
say they should go there, but I found one in "www" and one in "www-clients".
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# 10

19-03-2011 08:34 AM
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devel category is the largest one, how about divide it into :
devel
devel-perl
devel-python
wen
2011/3/19 Martin Wilke <>:
> Hey,
>
> as the Ports Collection continue to grow, we have decided to
> do some changes to the category layout. The www category, second
> largest with over 2000 individual ports, will have three subcategories
> spinned out. On the other side, x11-servers category, with only
> 10 ports, will be folded into regular x11 category.
>
> Attached is a proposed list of ports being moved from the www category.
> Please review, discuss and report ommissions and mistakes. The general
> key to the new categories is as follows:
>
> www-clients - browsers, rss clients, wget-alike, webapi/soap clients,
> benchmarks
> www-servers - http servers, proxy servers, everything related to apache
> www-webapps - web apps, frameworks, libraries
> www (rest, not moved) - html editors, authoring tools, search engines ..
>
> http://people.freebsd.org/~miwi/cat/www-client.txt
> http://people.freebsd.org/~miwi/cat/www-server.txt
> http://people.freebsd.org/~miwi/cat/www-webapps.txt
> http://people.freebsd.org/~miwi/cat/www.txt
>
>
> - Martin on behalf of portmgr
> _______________________________________________
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