Hello,

I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.

Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

waf tells me this:

Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a
version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3

I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14

!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version: 1.0.21
Library version: 1.0.24
Utilities version: 1.0.23


Now I am stuck.

Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3?
It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this
purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It
should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a
package made for that distro.
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Hello,

I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.

Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

waf tells me this:

Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a
version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3

I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14

!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version: 1.0.21
Library version: 1.0.24
Utilities version: 1.0.23


Now I am stuck.

Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3?
It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this
purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It
should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a
package made for that distro.
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On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

----- Original Message -----
Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14

Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org

Hello,

I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.

Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

waf tells me this:

Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a
version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3

I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14

!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version: 1.0.21
Library version: 1.0.24
Utilities version: 1.0.23


Now I am stuck.

Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3?
It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this
purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It
should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a
package made for that distro.
_______________________________________________
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ardour-
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)
On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

----- Original Message -----
Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14

Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org



On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>
> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Cheers

Carl
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Hello,

I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.

Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

waf tells me this:

Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a
version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3

I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14

!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version: 1.0.21
Library version: 1.0.24
Utilities version: 1.0.23


Now I am stuck.

Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3?
It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this
purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It
should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a
package made for that distro.
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)
On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

----- Original Message -----
Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14

Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org



On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>
> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Cheers

Carl
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On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>
>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>
> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
(maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

-- Fernando
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Hello,

I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.

Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

waf tells me this:

Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a
version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3

I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14

!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version: 1.0.21
Library version: 1.0.24
Utilities version: 1.0.23


Now I am stuck.

Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3?
It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this
purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It
should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a
package made for that distro.
_______________________________________________
ardour-dev mailing list
ardour-
http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
)
On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

----- Original Message -----
Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14

Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org



On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>
> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Cheers

Carl
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On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>
>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>
> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
(maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

-- Fernando
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-****cano
<> wrote:
> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>
>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>
>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>
> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
latency API is jack2.

note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....

aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
JACK.
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Hello,

I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.

Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

waf tells me this:

Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a
version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3

I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14

!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version: 1.0.21
Library version: 1.0.24
Utilities version: 1.0.23


Now I am stuck.

Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3?
It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this
purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It
should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a
package made for that distro.
_______________________________________________
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)
On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

----- Original Message -----
Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14

Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org



On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>
> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Cheers

Carl
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On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>
>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>
> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
(maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

-- Fernando
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-****cano
<> wrote:
> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>
>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>
>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>
> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
latency API is jack2.

note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....

aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
JACK.
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Am 06.03.2011 20:05, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
> <> wrote:
>> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>>
>>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>>
>>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>>
>> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
>> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)
>
> stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
> latency API is jack2.
>
> note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
> willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
> not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....
>
> aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
> problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
> JACK.

Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
installed?
Something like build jack1 and install it to /usr/local and still run
jack2 from /usr
?

> _______________________________________________
> ardour-dev mailing list
> ardour-
> http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
>

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Hello,

I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.

Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

waf tells me this:

Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a
version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3

I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14

!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version: 1.0.21
Library version: 1.0.24
Utilities version: 1.0.23


Now I am stuck.

Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3?
It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this
purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It
should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a
package made for that distro.
_______________________________________________
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)
On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

----- Original Message -----
Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14

Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org



On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>
> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Cheers

Carl
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On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>
>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>
> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
(maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

-- Fernando
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-****cano
<> wrote:
> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>
>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>
>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>
> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
latency API is jack2.

note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....

aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
JACK.
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Am 06.03.2011 20:05, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
> <> wrote:
>> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>>
>>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>>
>>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>>
>> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
>> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)
>
> stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
> latency API is jack2.
>
> note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
> willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
> not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....
>
> aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
> problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
> JACK.

Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
installed?
Something like build jack1 and install it to /usr/local and still run
jack2 from /usr
?

> _______________________________________________
> ardour-dev mailing list
> ardour-
> http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
>

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Am 06.03.2011 12:02, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
results on Ubuntu 1010?

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hartmut Noack
> Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
> To: ardour-
> Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14
>
> Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
>

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Hello,

I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.

Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

waf tells me this:

Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a
version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3

I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14

!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version: 1.0.21
Library version: 1.0.24
Utilities version: 1.0.23


Now I am stuck.

Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3?
It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this
purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It
should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a
package made for that distro.
_______________________________________________
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On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

----- Original Message -----
Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14

Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org



On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>
> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Cheers

Carl
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On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>
>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>
> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
(maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

-- Fernando
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-****cano
<> wrote:
> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>
>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>
>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>
> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
latency API is jack2.

note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....

aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
JACK.
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Am 06.03.2011 20:05, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
> <> wrote:
>> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>>
>>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>>
>>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>>
>> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
>> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)
>
> stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
> latency API is jack2.
>
> note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
> willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
> not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....
>
> aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
> problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
> JACK.

Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
installed?
Something like build jack1 and install it to /usr/local and still run
jack2 from /usr
?

> _______________________________________________
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> ardour-
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Am 06.03.2011 12:02, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
results on Ubuntu 1010?

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hartmut Noack
> Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
> To: ardour-
> Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14
>
> Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack <> wrote:

> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
> installed?

this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.

--p
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Hello,

I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.

Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

waf tells me this:

Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a
version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3

I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14

!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version: 1.0.21
Library version: 1.0.24
Utilities version: 1.0.23


Now I am stuck.

Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3?
It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this
purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It
should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a
package made for that distro.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14

Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org



On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>
> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Cheers

Carl
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On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>
>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>
> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
(maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

-- Fernando
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-****cano
<> wrote:
> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>
>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>
>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>
> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
latency API is jack2.

note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....

aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
JACK.
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Am 06.03.2011 20:05, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
> <> wrote:
>> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>>
>>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>>
>>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>>
>> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
>> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)
>
> stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
> latency API is jack2.
>
> note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
> willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
> not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....
>
> aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
> problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
> JACK.

Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
installed?
Something like build jack1 and install it to /usr/local and still run
jack2 from /usr
?

> _______________________________________________
> ardour-dev mailing list
> ardour-
> http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
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Am 06.03.2011 12:02, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
results on Ubuntu 1010?

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hartmut Noack
> Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
> To: ardour-
> Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14
>
> Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
>

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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack <> wrote:

> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
> installed?

this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.

--p
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Am 06.03.2011 20:46, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack<> wrote:
>
>> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
>> installed?
>
> this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
> the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
> want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
> install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
> server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
> reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.
>
> --p
>

So in a word possible:yes, sensible:no ...

I will not jeopardize my perfectly running CCRMA/Fedora and install
Ubuntu1010 instead on a spare partition. Anyway, I only need a test-bed
for A3, I do not plan to use it for day-to-day recordings ;-)

best regards and thanks for the hints

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Hello,

I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.

Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

waf tells me this:

Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a
version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3

I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14

!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version: 1.0.21
Library version: 1.0.24
Utilities version: 1.0.23


Now I am stuck.

Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3?
It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this
purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It
should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a
package made for that distro.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14

Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org



On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>
> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Cheers

Carl
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On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>
>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>
> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
(maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

-- Fernando
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-****cano
<> wrote:
> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>
>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>
>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>
> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
latency API is jack2.

note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....

aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
JACK.
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Am 06.03.2011 20:05, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
> <> wrote:
>> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>>
>>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>>
>>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>>
>> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
>> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)
>
> stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
> latency API is jack2.
>
> note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
> willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
> not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....
>
> aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
> problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
> JACK.

Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
installed?
Something like build jack1 and install it to /usr/local and still run
jack2 from /usr
?

> _______________________________________________
> ardour-dev mailing list
> ardour-
> http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
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Am 06.03.2011 12:02, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
results on Ubuntu 1010?

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hartmut Noack
> Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
> To: ardour-
> Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14
>
> Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack <> wrote:

> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
> installed?

this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.

--p
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Am 06.03.2011 20:46, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack<> wrote:
>
>> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
>> installed?
>
> this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
> the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
> want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
> install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
> server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
> reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.
>
> --p
>

So in a word possible:yes, sensible:no ...

I will not jeopardize my perfectly running CCRMA/Fedora and install
Ubuntu1010 instead on a spare partition. Anyway, I only need a test-bed
for A3, I do not plan to use it for day-to-day recordings ;-)

best regards and thanks for the hints

HZN
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>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues > And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good > results on Ubuntu 1010? Sorry, I replied before realizing that, without the new Jack, I cannot build A3 anymore (until 2-3 days ago it was possible). You obviously can build Jack 0.120 from source. As for the kernel, I use a one built by myself; but there are ready-to-use RT-kernel (don't know if through the Ubuntu repos or through a third-party ppa). If you are expert enough to use Arch Linux (it's not that difficoult, anyway), its testing repository already features the new Jack 0.120. You could give it a try.

Hello,

I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.

Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

waf tells me this:

Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a
version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3

I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14

!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version: 1.0.21
Library version: 1.0.24
Utilities version: 1.0.23


Now I am stuck.

Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3?
It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this
purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It
should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a
package made for that distro.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14

Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org



On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>
> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Cheers

Carl
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On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>
>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>
> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
(maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

-- Fernando
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-****cano
<> wrote:
> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>
>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>
>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>
> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
latency API is jack2.

note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....

aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
JACK.
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Am 06.03.2011 20:05, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
> <> wrote:
>> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>>
>>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>>
>>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>>
>> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
>> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)
>
> stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
> latency API is jack2.
>
> note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
> willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
> not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....
>
> aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
> problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
> JACK.

Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
installed?
Something like build jack1 and install it to /usr/local and still run
jack2 from /usr
?

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Am 06.03.2011 12:02, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
results on Ubuntu 1010?

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hartmut Noack
> Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
> To: ardour-
> Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14
>
> Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack <> wrote:

> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
> installed?

this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.

--p
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Am 06.03.2011 20:46, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack<> wrote:
>
>> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
>> installed?
>
> this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
> the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
> want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
> install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
> server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
> reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.
>
> --p
>

So in a word possible:yes, sensible:no ...

I will not jeopardize my perfectly running CCRMA/Fedora and install
Ubuntu1010 instead on a spare partition. Anyway, I only need a test-bed
for A3, I do not plan to use it for day-to-day recordings ;-)

best regards and thanks for the hints

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>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues > And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good > results on Ubuntu 1010? Sorry, I replied before realizing that, without the new Jack, I cannot build A3 anymore (until 2-3 days ago it was possible). You obviously can build Jack 0.120 from source. As for the kernel, I use a one built by myself; but there are ready-to-use RT-kernel (don't know if through the Ubuntu repos or through a third-party ppa). If you are expert enough to use Arch Linux (it's not that difficoult, anyway), its testing repository already features the new Jack 0.120. You could give it a try.


Am 06.03.2011 22:00, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
>>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

>> And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
>> results on Ubuntu 1010?

> Sorry, I replied before realizing that, without the new Jack, I cannot build A3 anymore (until 2-3 days ago it was possible). You obviously can build Jack 0.120 from source. As for the kernel, I use a one built by myself; but there are ready-to-use RT-kernel (don't know if through the Ubuntu repos or through a third-party ppa). If you are expert enough to use Arch Linux (it's not that difficoult, anyway), its testing repository already features the new Jack 0.120. You could give it a try.
>

Thanks for the correction. So I guess it will be Ubuntu 1010 with a
Kernel from a ppa and Jack120 built from source...
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Hello,

I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.

Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

waf tells me this:

Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a
version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3

I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14

!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version: 1.0.21
Library version: 1.0.24
Utilities version: 1.0.23


Now I am stuck.

Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3?
It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this
purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It
should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a
package made for that distro.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14

Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org



On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>
> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Cheers

Carl
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On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>
>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>
> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
(maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

-- Fernando
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-****cano
<> wrote:
> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>
>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>
>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>
> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
latency API is jack2.

note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....

aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
JACK.
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Am 06.03.2011 20:05, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
> <> wrote:
>> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>>
>>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>>
>>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>>
>> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
>> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)
>
> stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
> latency API is jack2.
>
> note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
> willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
> not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....
>
> aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
> problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
> JACK.

Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
installed?
Something like build jack1 and install it to /usr/local and still run
jack2 from /usr
?

> _______________________________________________
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> ardour-
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Am 06.03.2011 12:02, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
results on Ubuntu 1010?

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hartmut Noack
> Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
> To: ardour-
> Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14
>
> Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack <> wrote:

> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
> installed?

this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.

--p
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Am 06.03.2011 20:46, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack<> wrote:
>
>> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
>> installed?
>
> this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
> the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
> want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
> install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
> server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
> reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.
>
> --p
>

So in a word possible:yes, sensible:no ...

I will not jeopardize my perfectly running CCRMA/Fedora and install
Ubuntu1010 instead on a spare partition. Anyway, I only need a test-bed
for A3, I do not plan to use it for day-to-day recordings ;-)

best regards and thanks for the hints

HZN
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>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues > And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good > results on Ubuntu 1010? Sorry, I replied before realizing that, without the new Jack, I cannot build A3 anymore (until 2-3 days ago it was possible). You obviously can build Jack 0.120 from source. As for the kernel, I use a one built by myself; but there are ready-to-use RT-kernel (don't know if through the Ubuntu repos or through a third-party ppa). If you are expert enough to use Arch Linux (it's not that difficoult, anyway), its testing repository already features the new Jack 0.120. You could give it a try.


Am 06.03.2011 22:00, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
>>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

>> And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
>> results on Ubuntu 1010?

> Sorry, I replied before realizing that, without the new Jack, I cannot build A3 anymore (until 2-3 days ago it was possible). You obviously can build Jack 0.120 from source. As for the kernel, I use a one built by myself; but there are ready-to-use RT-kernel (don't know if through the Ubuntu repos or through a third-party ppa). If you are expert enough to use Arch Linux (it's not that difficoult, anyway), its testing repository already features the new Jack 0.120. You could give it a try.
>

Thanks for the correction. So I guess it will be Ubuntu 1010 with a
Kernel from a ppa and Jack120 built from source...
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Ubuntu Studio has RT kernel by default. I can't remember if standard Ubuntu
does, but I always add the kxstudio PPAs which track most multimedia
projects closely and has RT kernels.

good luck!

{c}

-sent from an Android in my pocket
On Mar 6, 2011 2:44 PM, "Hartmut Noack" <> wrote:
> Am 06.03.2011 12:02, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues
>
> And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
> results on Ubuntu 1010?
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Hartmut Noack
>> Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
>> To: ardour-
>> Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14
>>
>> Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing
- a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not
build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version:
1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has
anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It
would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose
so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be
possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that
distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing
list ardour-
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>>
>
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Hello,

I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.

Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

waf tells me this:

Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a
version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3

I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14

!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version: 1.0.21
Library version: 1.0.24
Utilities version: 1.0.23


Now I am stuck.

Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3?
It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this
purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It
should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a
package made for that distro.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14

Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org



On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>
> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Cheers

Carl
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On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>
>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>
> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
(maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

-- Fernando
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-****cano
<> wrote:
> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>
>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>
>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>
> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
latency API is jack2.

note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....

aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
JACK.
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Am 06.03.2011 20:05, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
> <> wrote:
>> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>>
>>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>>
>>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>>
>> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
>> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)
>
> stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
> latency API is jack2.
>
> note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
> willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
> not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....
>
> aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
> problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
> JACK.

Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
installed?
Something like build jack1 and install it to /usr/local and still run
jack2 from /usr
?

> _______________________________________________
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> ardour-
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Am 06.03.2011 12:02, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
results on Ubuntu 1010?

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hartmut Noack
> Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
> To: ardour-
> Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14
>
> Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack <> wrote:

> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
> installed?

this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.

--p
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Am 06.03.2011 20:46, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack<> wrote:
>
>> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
>> installed?
>
> this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
> the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
> want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
> install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
> server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
> reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.
>
> --p
>

So in a word possible:yes, sensible:no ...

I will not jeopardize my perfectly running CCRMA/Fedora and install
Ubuntu1010 instead on a spare partition. Anyway, I only need a test-bed
for A3, I do not plan to use it for day-to-day recordings ;-)

best regards and thanks for the hints

HZN
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>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues > And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good > results on Ubuntu 1010? Sorry, I replied before realizing that, without the new Jack, I cannot build A3 anymore (until 2-3 days ago it was possible). You obviously can build Jack 0.120 from source. As for the kernel, I use a one built by myself; but there are ready-to-use RT-kernel (don't know if through the Ubuntu repos or through a third-party ppa). If you are expert enough to use Arch Linux (it's not that difficoult, anyway), its testing repository already features the new Jack 0.120. You could give it a try.


Am 06.03.2011 22:00, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
>>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

>> And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
>> results on Ubuntu 1010?

> Sorry, I replied before realizing that, without the new Jack, I cannot build A3 anymore (until 2-3 days ago it was possible). You obviously can build Jack 0.120 from source. As for the kernel, I use a one built by myself; but there are ready-to-use RT-kernel (don't know if through the Ubuntu repos or through a third-party ppa). If you are expert enough to use Arch Linux (it's not that difficoult, anyway), its testing repository already features the new Jack 0.120. You could give it a try.
>

Thanks for the correction. So I guess it will be Ubuntu 1010 with a
Kernel from a ppa and Jack120 built from source...
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Ubuntu Studio has RT kernel by default. I can't remember if standard Ubuntu
does, but I always add the kxstudio PPAs which track most multimedia
projects closely and has RT kernels.

good luck!

{c}

-sent from an Android in my pocket
On Mar 6, 2011 2:44 PM, "Hartmut Noack" <> wrote:
> Am 06.03.2011 12:02, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues
>
> And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
> results on Ubuntu 1010?
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Hartmut Noack
>> Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
>> To: ardour-
>> Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14
>>
>> Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing
- a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not
build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version:
1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has
anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It
would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose
so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be
possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that
distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing
list ardour-
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>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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On 03/06/2011 12:07 PM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
> Am 06.03.2011 20:46, schrieb Paul Davis:
>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack<>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
>>> installed?
>>
>> this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
>> the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
>> want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
>> install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
>> server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
>> reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.
>
> So in a word possible:yes, sensible:no ...
>
> I will not jeopardize my perfectly running CCRMA/Fedora and install
> Ubuntu1010 instead on a spare partition. Anyway, I only need a test-bed
> for A3, I do not plan to use it for day-to-day recordings ;-)

I don't currently have packages for jack1, otherwise it would be
possible to remove (ignoring dependencies) jack2, install jack1, compile
and then test with either. I'll see if I get time to build something...

-- Fernando
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Hello,

I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.

Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

waf tells me this:

Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a
version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3

I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14

!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version: 1.0.21
Library version: 1.0.24
Utilities version: 1.0.23


Now I am stuck.

Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3?
It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this
purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It
should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a
package made for that distro.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14

Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org



On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>
> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Cheers

Carl
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On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>
>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>
> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
(maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

-- Fernando
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-****cano
<> wrote:
> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>
>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>
>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>
> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
latency API is jack2.

note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....

aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
JACK.
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Am 06.03.2011 20:05, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
> <> wrote:
>> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>>
>>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>>
>>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>>
>> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
>> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)
>
> stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
> latency API is jack2.
>
> note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
> willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
> not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....
>
> aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
> problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
> JACK.

Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
installed?
Something like build jack1 and install it to /usr/local and still run
jack2 from /usr
?

> _______________________________________________
> ardour-dev mailing list
> ardour-
> http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
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Am 06.03.2011 12:02, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
results on Ubuntu 1010?

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hartmut Noack
> Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
> To: ardour-
> Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14
>
> Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
>

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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack <> wrote:

> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
> installed?

this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.

--p
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Am 06.03.2011 20:46, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack<> wrote:
>
>> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
>> installed?
>
> this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
> the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
> want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
> install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
> server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
> reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.
>
> --p
>

So in a word possible:yes, sensible:no ...

I will not jeopardize my perfectly running CCRMA/Fedora and install
Ubuntu1010 instead on a spare partition. Anyway, I only need a test-bed
for A3, I do not plan to use it for day-to-day recordings ;-)

best regards and thanks for the hints

HZN
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>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues > And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good > results on Ubuntu 1010? Sorry, I replied before realizing that, without the new Jack, I cannot build A3 anymore (until 2-3 days ago it was possible). You obviously can build Jack 0.120 from source. As for the kernel, I use a one built by myself; but there are ready-to-use RT-kernel (don't know if through the Ubuntu repos or through a third-party ppa). If you are expert enough to use Arch Linux (it's not that difficoult, anyway), its testing repository already features the new Jack 0.120. You could give it a try.


Am 06.03.2011 22:00, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
>>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

>> And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
>> results on Ubuntu 1010?

> Sorry, I replied before realizing that, without the new Jack, I cannot build A3 anymore (until 2-3 days ago it was possible). You obviously can build Jack 0.120 from source. As for the kernel, I use a one built by myself; but there are ready-to-use RT-kernel (don't know if through the Ubuntu repos or through a third-party ppa). If you are expert enough to use Arch Linux (it's not that difficoult, anyway), its testing repository already features the new Jack 0.120. You could give it a try.
>

Thanks for the correction. So I guess it will be Ubuntu 1010 with a
Kernel from a ppa and Jack120 built from source...
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Ubuntu Studio has RT kernel by default. I can't remember if standard Ubuntu
does, but I always add the kxstudio PPAs which track most multimedia
projects closely and has RT kernels.

good luck!

{c}

-sent from an Android in my pocket
On Mar 6, 2011 2:44 PM, "Hartmut Noack" <> wrote:
> Am 06.03.2011 12:02, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues
>
> And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
> results on Ubuntu 1010?
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Hartmut Noack
>> Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
>> To: ardour-
>> Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14
>>
>> Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing
- a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not
build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version:
1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has
anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It
would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose
so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be
possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that
distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing
list ardour-
http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> ardour-
> http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org


On 03/06/2011 12:07 PM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
> Am 06.03.2011 20:46, schrieb Paul Davis:
>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack<>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
>>> installed?
>>
>> this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
>> the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
>> want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
>> install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
>> server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
>> reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.
>
> So in a word possible:yes, sensible:no ...
>
> I will not jeopardize my perfectly running CCRMA/Fedora and install
> Ubuntu1010 instead on a spare partition. Anyway, I only need a test-bed
> for A3, I do not plan to use it for day-to-day recordings ;-)

I don't currently have packages for jack1, otherwise it would be
possible to remove (ignoring dependencies) jack2, install jack1, compile
and then test with either. I'll see if I get time to build something...

-- Fernando
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Fernando Lopez-****cano
<> wrote:

> I don't currently have packages for jack1, otherwise it would be possible to
> remove (ignoring dependencies) jack2, install jack1, compile and then test
> with either. I'll see if I get time to build something...

./configure --prefix=/usr && make && sudo make install

:)
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Hello,

I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.

Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

waf tells me this:

Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a
version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3

I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14

!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version: 1.0.21
Library version: 1.0.24
Utilities version: 1.0.23


Now I am stuck.

Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3?
It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this
purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It
should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a
package made for that distro.
_______________________________________________
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On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

----- Original Message -----
Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14

Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org



On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>
> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Cheers

Carl
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On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>
>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>
> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
(maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

-- Fernando
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-****cano
<> wrote:
> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>
>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>
>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>
> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
latency API is jack2.

note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....

aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
JACK.
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Am 06.03.2011 20:05, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
> <> wrote:
>> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>>
>>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>>
>>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>>
>> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
>> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)
>
> stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
> latency API is jack2.
>
> note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
> willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
> not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....
>
> aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
> problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
> JACK.

Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
installed?
Something like build jack1 and install it to /usr/local and still run
jack2 from /usr
?

> _______________________________________________
> ardour-dev mailing list
> ardour-
> http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
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Am 06.03.2011 12:02, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
results on Ubuntu 1010?

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hartmut Noack
> Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
> To: ardour-
> Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14
>
> Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
>

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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack <> wrote:

> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
> installed?

this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.

--p
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Am 06.03.2011 20:46, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack<> wrote:
>
>> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
>> installed?
>
> this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
> the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
> want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
> install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
> server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
> reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.
>
> --p
>

So in a word possible:yes, sensible:no ...

I will not jeopardize my perfectly running CCRMA/Fedora and install
Ubuntu1010 instead on a spare partition. Anyway, I only need a test-bed
for A3, I do not plan to use it for day-to-day recordings ;-)

best regards and thanks for the hints

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>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues > And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good > results on Ubuntu 1010? Sorry, I replied before realizing that, without the new Jack, I cannot build A3 anymore (until 2-3 days ago it was possible). You obviously can build Jack 0.120 from source. As for the kernel, I use a one built by myself; but there are ready-to-use RT-kernel (don't know if through the Ubuntu repos or through a third-party ppa). If you are expert enough to use Arch Linux (it's not that difficoult, anyway), its testing repository already features the new Jack 0.120. You could give it a try.


Am 06.03.2011 22:00, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
>>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

>> And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
>> results on Ubuntu 1010?

> Sorry, I replied before realizing that, without the new Jack, I cannot build A3 anymore (until 2-3 days ago it was possible). You obviously can build Jack 0.120 from source. As for the kernel, I use a one built by myself; but there are ready-to-use RT-kernel (don't know if through the Ubuntu repos or through a third-party ppa). If you are expert enough to use Arch Linux (it's not that difficoult, anyway), its testing repository already features the new Jack 0.120. You could give it a try.
>

Thanks for the correction. So I guess it will be Ubuntu 1010 with a
Kernel from a ppa and Jack120 built from source...
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projects closely and has RT kernels.

good luck!

{c}

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On Mar 6, 2011 2:44 PM, "Hartmut Noack" <> wrote:
> Am 06.03.2011 12:02, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues
>
> And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
> results on Ubuntu 1010?
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Hartmut Noack
>> Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
>> To: ardour-
>> Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14
>>
>> Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing
- a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not
build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version:
1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has
anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It
would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose
so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be
possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that
distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing
list ardour-
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>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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On 03/06/2011 12:07 PM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
> Am 06.03.2011 20:46, schrieb Paul Davis:
>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack<>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
>>> installed?
>>
>> this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
>> the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
>> want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
>> install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
>> server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
>> reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.
>
> So in a word possible:yes, sensible:no ...
>
> I will not jeopardize my perfectly running CCRMA/Fedora and install
> Ubuntu1010 instead on a spare partition. Anyway, I only need a test-bed
> for A3, I do not plan to use it for day-to-day recordings ;-)

I don't currently have packages for jack1, otherwise it would be
possible to remove (ignoring dependencies) jack2, install jack1, compile
and then test with either. I'll see if I get time to build something...

-- Fernando
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<> wrote:

> I don't currently have packages for jack1, otherwise it would be possible to
> remove (ignoring dependencies) jack2, install jack1, compile and then test
> with either. I'll see if I get time to build something...

./configure --prefix=/usr && make && sudo make install

:)
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On 03/06/2011 06:15 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Fernando Lopez-****cano
> <> wrote:
>
>> I don't currently have packages for jack1, otherwise it would be possible to
>> remove (ignoring dependencies) jack2, install jack1, compile and then test
>> with either. I'll see if I get time to build something...
>
> ./configure --prefix=/usr&& make&& sudo make install
>
> :)

yes and no. A reinstall of jack2 of top of that manual install does not
insure that absolutely all bits of jack1 will disappear. Unless the
jack1 uninstall target is perfect, which I imagine it would be.

I prefer to always use packages.....
-- Fernando
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Hello,

I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.

Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

waf tells me this:

Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a
version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3

I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14

!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version: 1.0.21
Library version: 1.0.24
Utilities version: 1.0.23


Now I am stuck.

Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3?
It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this
purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It
should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a
package made for that distro.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14

Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org



On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>
> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Cheers

Carl
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On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>
>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>
> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
(maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

-- Fernando
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-****cano
<> wrote:
> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>
>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>
>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>
> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
latency API is jack2.

note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....

aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
JACK.
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Am 06.03.2011 20:05, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
> <> wrote:
>> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>>
>>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>>
>>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>>
>> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
>> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)
>
> stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
> latency API is jack2.
>
> note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
> willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
> not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....
>
> aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
> problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
> JACK.

Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
installed?
Something like build jack1 and install it to /usr/local and still run
jack2 from /usr
?

> _______________________________________________
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Am 06.03.2011 12:02, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
results on Ubuntu 1010?

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hartmut Noack
> Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
> To: ardour-
> Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14
>
> Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack <> wrote:

> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
> installed?

this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.

--p
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Am 06.03.2011 20:46, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack<> wrote:
>
>> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
>> installed?
>
> this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
> the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
> want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
> install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
> server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
> reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.
>
> --p
>

So in a word possible:yes, sensible:no ...

I will not jeopardize my perfectly running CCRMA/Fedora and install
Ubuntu1010 instead on a spare partition. Anyway, I only need a test-bed
for A3, I do not plan to use it for day-to-day recordings ;-)

best regards and thanks for the hints

HZN
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>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues > And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good > results on Ubuntu 1010? Sorry, I replied before realizing that, without the new Jack, I cannot build A3 anymore (until 2-3 days ago it was possible). You obviously can build Jack 0.120 from source. As for the kernel, I use a one built by myself; but there are ready-to-use RT-kernel (don't know if through the Ubuntu repos or through a third-party ppa). If you are expert enough to use Arch Linux (it's not that difficoult, anyway), its testing repository already features the new Jack 0.120. You could give it a try.


Am 06.03.2011 22:00, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
>>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

>> And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
>> results on Ubuntu 1010?

> Sorry, I replied before realizing that, without the new Jack, I cannot build A3 anymore (until 2-3 days ago it was possible). You obviously can build Jack 0.120 from source. As for the kernel, I use a one built by myself; but there are ready-to-use RT-kernel (don't know if through the Ubuntu repos or through a third-party ppa). If you are expert enough to use Arch Linux (it's not that difficoult, anyway), its testing repository already features the new Jack 0.120. You could give it a try.
>

Thanks for the correction. So I guess it will be Ubuntu 1010 with a
Kernel from a ppa and Jack120 built from source...
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does, but I always add the kxstudio PPAs which track most multimedia
projects closely and has RT kernels.

good luck!

{c}

-sent from an Android in my pocket
On Mar 6, 2011 2:44 PM, "Hartmut Noack" <> wrote:
> Am 06.03.2011 12:02, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues
>
> And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
> results on Ubuntu 1010?
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Hartmut Noack
>> Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
>> To: ardour-
>> Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14
>>
>> Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing
- a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not
build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version:
1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has
anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It
would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose
so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be
possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that
distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing
list ardour-
http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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On 03/06/2011 12:07 PM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
> Am 06.03.2011 20:46, schrieb Paul Davis:
>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack<>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
>>> installed?
>>
>> this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
>> the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
>> want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
>> install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
>> server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
>> reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.
>
> So in a word possible:yes, sensible:no ...
>
> I will not jeopardize my perfectly running CCRMA/Fedora and install
> Ubuntu1010 instead on a spare partition. Anyway, I only need a test-bed
> for A3, I do not plan to use it for day-to-day recordings ;-)

I don't currently have packages for jack1, otherwise it would be
possible to remove (ignoring dependencies) jack2, install jack1, compile
and then test with either. I'll see if I get time to build something...

-- Fernando
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Fernando Lopez-****cano
<> wrote:

> I don't currently have packages for jack1, otherwise it would be possible to
> remove (ignoring dependencies) jack2, install jack1, compile and then test
> with either. I'll see if I get time to build something...

./configure --prefix=/usr && make && sudo make install

:)
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On 03/06/2011 06:15 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Fernando Lopez-****cano
> <> wrote:
>
>> I don't currently have packages for jack1, otherwise it would be possible to
>> remove (ignoring dependencies) jack2, install jack1, compile and then test
>> with either. I'll see if I get time to build something...
>
> ./configure --prefix=/usr&& make&& sudo make install
>
> :)

yes and no. A reinstall of jack2 of top of that manual install does not
insure that absolutely all bits of jack1 will disappear. Unless the
jack1 uninstall target is perfect, which I imagine it would be.

I prefer to always use packages.....
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On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 18:32 -0500, Chooch Schubert wrote:
> Ubuntu Studio has RT kernel by default.

Except of course if you are talking about a 10.10 64 bit install.


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Hello,

I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.

Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

waf tells me this:

Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a
version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3

I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14

!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version: 1.0.21
Library version: 1.0.24
Utilities version: 1.0.23


Now I am stuck.

Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3?
It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this
purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It
should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a
package made for that distro.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14

Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org



On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>
> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14

At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Cheers

Carl
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On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>
>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>
> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.

Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
(maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

-- Fernando
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-****cano
<> wrote:
> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>
>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>
>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>
> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)

stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
latency API is jack2.

note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....

aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
JACK.
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Am 06.03.2011 20:05, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
> <> wrote:
>> On 03/06/2011 04:58 AM, Carl Hetherington wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14.
>>>>
>>>> Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
>>>
>>> At this time you will need to use JACK 1 version 0.120.1.
>>
>> Is this coming to jack2 soon? Please?
>> (maybe already there, or a patch is available?)
>
> stephane was on IRC last week and said he was doing some work on the
> latency API is jack2.
>
> note that we plan to distribute a3 as a distro-neutral binary, so our
> willingess to workaround issues like this is going to go way down. its
> not that we don't want distros to build a3, but ....
>
> aso note that actual error message does specifically note that the
> problem concerns *building* a3. you can run with either version of
> JACK.

Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
installed?
Something like build jack1 and install it to /usr/local and still run
jack2 from /usr
?

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Am 06.03.2011 12:02, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
results on Ubuntu 1010?

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hartmut Noack
> Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
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> Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14
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> Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14 waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing - a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version: 1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing list ardour- http://lists.ardour.org/listinfo.cgi/ardour-dev-ardour.org
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack <> wrote:

> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
> installed?

this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.

--p
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Am 06.03.2011 20:46, schrieb Paul Davis:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack<> wrote:
>
>> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
>> installed?
>
> this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
> the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
> want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
> install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
> server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
> reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.
>
> --p
>

So in a word possible:yes, sensible:no ...

I will not jeopardize my perfectly running CCRMA/Fedora and install
Ubuntu1010 instead on a spare partition. Anyway, I only need a test-bed
for A3, I do not plan to use it for day-to-day recordings ;-)

best regards and thanks for the hints

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>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues > And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good > results on Ubuntu 1010? Sorry, I replied before realizing that, without the new Jack, I cannot build A3 anymore (until 2-3 days ago it was possible). You obviously can build Jack 0.120 from source. As for the kernel, I use a one built by myself; but there are ready-to-use RT-kernel (don't know if through the Ubuntu repos or through a third-party ppa). If you are expert enough to use Arch Linux (it's not that difficoult, anyway), its testing repository already features the new Jack 0.120. You could give it a try.


Am 06.03.2011 22:00, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
>>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues

>> And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
>> results on Ubuntu 1010?

> Sorry, I replied before realizing that, without the new Jack, I cannot build A3 anymore (until 2-3 days ago it was possible). You obviously can build Jack 0.120 from source. As for the kernel, I use a one built by myself; but there are ready-to-use RT-kernel (don't know if through the Ubuntu repos or through a third-party ppa). If you are expert enough to use Arch Linux (it's not that difficoult, anyway), its testing repository already features the new Jack 0.120. You could give it a try.
>

Thanks for the correction. So I guess it will be Ubuntu 1010 with a
Kernel from a ppa and Jack120 built from source...
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Ubuntu Studio has RT kernel by default. I can't remember if standard Ubuntu
does, but I always add the kxstudio PPAs which track most multimedia
projects closely and has RT kernels.

good luck!

{c}

-sent from an Android in my pocket
On Mar 6, 2011 2:44 PM, "Hartmut Noack" <> wrote:
> Am 06.03.2011 12:02, schrieb Valerio Orlandini:
>> On Ubuntu 10.10 and Arch Linux I manage to build Ardour 3 without issues
>
> And do you have a RT-kernel (installed from a ppa) running with good
> results on Ubuntu 1010?
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Hartmut Noack
>> Sent: 03/06/11 11:44 AM
>> To: ardour-
>> Subject: [Ardour-Dev] Building A3 on Fedora14
>>
>> Hello, I try to build Ardour3 SVN on Fedora14. Jack is version 1.9.6.2f14
waf tells me this: Checking for new jack_port_type_get_buffer_size : missing
- a version of JACK that supports jack_port_type_get_buffer_size() is
required to compile Ardour3 I fetched the SVN from jackmp but this would not
build ALSA-Support on f14 !!ALSA Version !!------------ Driver version:
1.0.21 Library version: 1.0.24 Utilities version: 1.0.23 Now I am stuck. Has
anyone a recommendation for a distro recent enough to build ardour3? It
would not be a problem for me to install a system for exactly this purpose
so any moderately easy to install system would be fine. It should also be
possible to install a RT-kernel for that distro from a package made for that
distro. _______________________________________________ ardour-dev mailing
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On 03/06/2011 12:07 PM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
> Am 06.03.2011 20:46, schrieb Paul Davis:
>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Hartmut Noack<>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you think it is possible/sensible to have both variants of jack
>>> installed?
>>
>> this is an incredibly dangerous idea. its not impossible to do this.
>> the overwhelming majority of linux users do not know how, nor do they
>> want to, nor should they need to. the basic rule remains: NEVER
>> install multiple versions of JACK (or any software that consists of a
>> server and a client-side library) on your machine unless you have no
>> reservations about calling yourself a unix guru.
>
> So in a word possible:yes, sensible:no ...
>
> I will not jeopardize my perfectly running CCRMA/Fedora and install
> Ubuntu1010 instead on a spare partition. Anyway, I only need a test-bed
> for A3, I do not plan to use it for day-to-day recordings ;-)

I don't currently have packages for jack1, otherwise it would be
possible to remove (ignoring dependencies) jack2, install jack1, compile
and then test with either. I'll see if I get time to build something...

-- Fernando
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On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Fernando Lopez-****cano
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> I don't currently have packages for jack1, otherwise it would be possible to
> remove (ignoring dependencies) jack2, install jack1, compile and then test
> with either. I'll see if I get time to build something...

./configure --prefix=/usr && make && sudo make install

:)
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On 03/06/2011 06:15 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Fernando Lopez-****cano
> <> wrote:
>
>> I don't currently have packages for jack1, otherwise it would be possible to
>> remove (ignoring dependencies) jack2, install jack1, compile and then test
>> with either. I'll see if I get time to build something...
>
> ./configure --prefix=/usr&& make&& sudo make install
>
> :)

yes and no. A reinstall of jack2 of top of that manual install does not
insure that absolutely all bits of jack1 will disappear. Unless the
jack1 uninstall target is perfect, which I imagine it would be.

I prefer to always use packages.....
-- Fernando
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On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 18:32 -0500, Chooch Schubert wrote:
> Ubuntu Studio has RT kernel by default.

Except of course if you are talking about a 10.10 64 bit install.


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Am 07.03.2011 07:58, schrieb Fernando Lopez-Lezcano:
> On 03/06/2011 06:15 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't currently have packages for jack1, otherwise it would be
>>> possible to
>>> remove (ignoring dependencies) jack2, install jack1, compile and then
>>> test
>>> with either. I'll see if I get time to build something...
>>
>> ./configure --prefix=/usr&& make&& sudo make install
>>
>> :)


I did this on Ubuntu to get Jack 0.120 but of course it did not replace
jack2 completely. So I removed everything related to jack in /usr/lib
and ran make install again.
I still had to reboot first to make it run but now I have it up and
running.

Ardour3 compiled and runs pretty much OK now showing a lot of progress
compared to the builds I made in December.

kudos! :-)

The list of dependencies on ardour.org/building is not complete anymore
so waf stopped 2 or 3 times complaining about missing deps. uuid was one
and cppunit another if I remember it correctly. All needed stuff can be
installed using apt though...

UbuntuStudio runs astoundingly well even though it only comes with a
kernel-package named "generic". In a first test I encountered less than
5 xruns within 2-3h of starting apps, recording, tweaking settings and
even installing missing packages. With jack set to use a MAudio MobilPre
USB-Interface with 128frames, 2 periods at 48KHz. But I think I actually
*heared* some drop-outs especially in ZynaddSubFX, though no xruns
showed up.

> yes and no. A reinstall of jack2 of top of that manual install does not
> insure that absolutely all bits of jack1 will disappear.
> Unless the
> jack1 uninstall target is perfect, which I imagine it would be.
>
> I prefer to always use packages.....
> -- Fernando
>

That may be a wise decision and on a working machine I only build
software from source, that can be cleanly installed parallel to its
distro-package into /usr/local. In most cases I simply use versions as
provided by a repo. Especially for the basic-system (Kernel, Jack, Alsa)
I only compile for myself, if there is absolutely no other way. I rather
install an entirely new system instead -- as I did with Fedora14/CCRMA
last December. Since Studio64 Electric I never had a system as reliable
and powerfull like F14/CCRMA on one of my computers so replacing
something in the core of it would be a too dangerous experiment for my
taste ;-)

best regards

HZN




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