>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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>
> Dave


As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have an opinion.
They're great.
/Neil)

>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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>
> Dave


As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have an opinion.
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>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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>
> Dave


As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have an opinion.
They're great.
/Neil) Neil

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) That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
a classy model.
/Neil


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> Sent: den 9 april 2010 10:09
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>
> Neil
>
> Which kit did you build?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have
> an opinion.
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> /Neil
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>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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) > Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
> find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.
>
> Dave


As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have an opinion.
They're great.
/Neil) Neil

Which kit did you build?

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and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
a classy model.
/Neil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Hooper, Dave
> Sent: den 9 april 2010 10:09
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2
>
> Neil
>
> Which kit did you build?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have
> an opinion.
> They're great.
> /Neil
>
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> ) > That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
> and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
> I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
> very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
> a classy model.
> /Neil
>

PS. The fact that I like Roden doesn't mean I dislike WNW! Far from it,
I just wish they'd see the light and scale down their Fe2b to 1/72.
And of course they need to do a full range of Spads. )

>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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) > Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
> find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.
>
> Dave


As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have an opinion.
They're great.
/Neil) Neil

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They're great.
/Neil


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) That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
a classy model.
/Neil


> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Hooper, Dave
> Sent: den 9 april 2010 10:09
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2
>
> Neil
>
> Which kit did you build?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have
> an opinion.
> They're great.
> /Neil
>
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> ) > That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
> and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
> I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
> very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
> a classy model.
> /Neil
>

PS. The fact that I like Roden doesn't mean I dislike WNW! Far from it,
I just wish they'd see the light and scale down their Fe2b to 1/72.
And of course they need to do a full range of Spads. ) Neil

Neil

I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've recently been
given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
don't like the wings on the Revell kit.

Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.

Regards

Dave



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>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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> find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.
>
> Dave


As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have an opinion.
They're great.
/Neil) Neil

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and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
a classy model.
/Neil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Hooper, Dave
> Sent: den 9 april 2010 10:09
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> Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2
>
> Neil
>
> Which kit did you build?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have
> an opinion.
> They're great.
> /Neil
>
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> ) > That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
> and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
> I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
> very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
> a classy model.
> /Neil
>

PS. The fact that I like Roden doesn't mean I dislike WNW! Far from it,
I just wish they'd see the light and scale down their Fe2b to 1/72.
And of course they need to do a full range of Spads. ) Neil

Neil

I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've recently been
given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
don't like the wings on the Revell kit.

Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.

Regards

Dave



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) Excellent, way to go! I never did it, but that must be the best thing to
do with Airfix Spad wings, they are nice and thin. I know you want to
make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be the
best.
/Neil


> Neil
>
> I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
> build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've
> recently been
> given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
> don't like the wings on the Revell kit.
>
> Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
> week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
> reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
> radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
)

>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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> find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.
>
> Dave


As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have an opinion.
They're great.
/Neil) Neil

Which kit did you build?

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They're great.
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) That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
a classy model.
/Neil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Hooper, Dave
> Sent: den 9 april 2010 10:09
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2
>
> Neil
>
> Which kit did you build?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have
> an opinion.
> They're great.
> /Neil
>
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> ) > That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
> and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
> I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
> very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
> a classy model.
> /Neil
>

PS. The fact that I like Roden doesn't mean I dislike WNW! Far from it,
I just wish they'd see the light and scale down their Fe2b to 1/72.
And of course they need to do a full range of Spads. ) Neil

Neil

I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've recently been
given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
don't like the wings on the Revell kit.

Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.

Regards

Dave



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) Excellent, way to go! I never did it, but that must be the best thing to
do with Airfix Spad wings, they are nice and thin. I know you want to
make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be the
best.
/Neil


> Neil
>
> I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
> build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've
> recently been
> given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
> don't like the wings on the Revell kit.
>
> Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
> week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
> reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
> radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I know you want to
>make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
>Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
the
>best.

I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)

Dave



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>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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) > Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
> find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.
>
> Dave


As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have an opinion.
They're great.
/Neil) Neil

Which kit did you build?

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) That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
a classy model.
/Neil


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> Sent: den 9 april 2010 10:09
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>
> Neil
>
> Which kit did you build?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have
> an opinion.
> They're great.
> /Neil
>
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> ) > That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
> and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
> I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
> very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
> a classy model.
> /Neil
>

PS. The fact that I like Roden doesn't mean I dislike WNW! Far from it,
I just wish they'd see the light and scale down their Fe2b to 1/72.
And of course they need to do a full range of Spads. ) Neil

Neil

I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've recently been
given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
don't like the wings on the Revell kit.

Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.

Regards

Dave



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) Excellent, way to go! I never did it, but that must be the best thing to
do with Airfix Spad wings, they are nice and thin. I know you want to
make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be the
best.
/Neil


> Neil
>
> I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
> build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've
> recently been
> given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
> don't like the wings on the Revell kit.
>
> Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
> week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
> reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
> radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I know you want to
>make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
>Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
the
>best.

I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)

Dave



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) No, it was very good for it's day, but the MAC kit is better.
The problem with the MAC kit is that it is only for a late version,
and of course the thick trailing edges.
I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.
/Neil

> Neil
>
> >I know you want to
> >make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
> >Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
> the
> >best.
>
> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)
>
> Dave
)

>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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) > Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
> find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.
>
> Dave


As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have an opinion.
They're great.
/Neil) Neil

Which kit did you build?

Dave



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/Neil


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) That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
a classy model.
/Neil


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> Sent: den 9 april 2010 10:09
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> Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2
>
> Neil
>
> Which kit did you build?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have
> an opinion.
> They're great.
> /Neil
>
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> ) > That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
> and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
> I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
> very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
> a classy model.
> /Neil
>

PS. The fact that I like Roden doesn't mean I dislike WNW! Far from it,
I just wish they'd see the light and scale down their Fe2b to 1/72.
And of course they need to do a full range of Spads. ) Neil

Neil

I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've recently been
given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
don't like the wings on the Revell kit.

Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.

Regards

Dave



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) Excellent, way to go! I never did it, but that must be the best thing to
do with Airfix Spad wings, they are nice and thin. I know you want to
make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be the
best.
/Neil


> Neil
>
> I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
> build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've
> recently been
> given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
> don't like the wings on the Revell kit.
>
> Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
> week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
> reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
> radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I know you want to
>make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
>Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
the
>best.

I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)

Dave



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) No, it was very good for it's day, but the MAC kit is better.
The problem with the MAC kit is that it is only for a late version,
and of course the thick trailing edges.
I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.
/Neil

> Neil
>
> >I know you want to
> >make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
> >Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
> the
> >best.
>
> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.

I should imagine they would do a very good job of it.

Regards

Dave


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>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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) > Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
> find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.
>
> Dave


As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have an opinion.
They're great.
/Neil) Neil

Which kit did you build?

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They're great.
/Neil


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) That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
a classy model.
/Neil


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> Sent: den 9 april 2010 10:09
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2
>
> Neil
>
> Which kit did you build?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have
> an opinion.
> They're great.
> /Neil
>
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> ) > That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
> and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
> I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
> very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
> a classy model.
> /Neil
>

PS. The fact that I like Roden doesn't mean I dislike WNW! Far from it,
I just wish they'd see the light and scale down their Fe2b to 1/72.
And of course they need to do a full range of Spads. ) Neil

Neil

I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've recently been
given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
don't like the wings on the Revell kit.

Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.

Regards

Dave



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) Excellent, way to go! I never did it, but that must be the best thing to
do with Airfix Spad wings, they are nice and thin. I know you want to
make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be the
best.
/Neil


> Neil
>
> I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
> build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've
> recently been
> given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
> don't like the wings on the Revell kit.
>
> Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
> week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
> reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
> radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I know you want to
>make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
>Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
the
>best.

I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)

Dave



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) No, it was very good for it's day, but the MAC kit is better.
The problem with the MAC kit is that it is only for a late version,
and of course the thick trailing edges.
I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.
/Neil

> Neil
>
> >I know you want to
> >make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
> >Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
> the
> >best.
>
> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.

I should imagine they would do a very good job of it.

Regards

Dave


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) > I thought that asking for a Letord bomber was a wee too much...
> D.

> I think it's a well justified request.

Maybe we can convince Shane to start one from scratch.
D.
)

>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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) > Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
> find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.
>
> Dave


As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have an opinion.
They're great.
/Neil) Neil

Which kit did you build?

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They're great.
/Neil


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) That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
a classy model.
/Neil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Hooper, Dave
> Sent: den 9 april 2010 10:09
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2
>
> Neil
>
> Which kit did you build?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have
> an opinion.
> They're great.
> /Neil
>
>
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> ) > That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
> and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
> I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
> very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
> a classy model.
> /Neil
>

PS. The fact that I like Roden doesn't mean I dislike WNW! Far from it,
I just wish they'd see the light and scale down their Fe2b to 1/72.
And of course they need to do a full range of Spads. ) Neil

Neil

I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've recently been
given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
don't like the wings on the Revell kit.

Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.

Regards

Dave



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) Excellent, way to go! I never did it, but that must be the best thing to
do with Airfix Spad wings, they are nice and thin. I know you want to
make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be the
best.
/Neil


> Neil
>
> I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
> build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've
> recently been
> given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
> don't like the wings on the Revell kit.
>
> Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
> week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
> reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
> radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I know you want to
>make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
>Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
the
>best.

I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)

Dave



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) No, it was very good for it's day, but the MAC kit is better.
The problem with the MAC kit is that it is only for a late version,
and of course the thick trailing edges.
I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.
/Neil

> Neil
>
> >I know you want to
> >make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
> >Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
> the
> >best.
>
> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.

I should imagine they would do a very good job of it.

Regards

Dave


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) > I thought that asking for a Letord bomber was a wee too much...
> D.

> I think it's a well justified request.

Maybe we can convince Shane to start one from scratch.
D.
) > > I thought that asking for a Letord bomber was a wee too much...
> > D.
>
> > I think it's a well justified request.
>
> Maybe we can convince Shane to start one from scratch.
> D.


Yes for sure, seeing as it isn't a Spad or a Nieuport, it should be
easy to persuade him.
/Neil )

>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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) > Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
> find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.
>
> Dave


As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have an opinion.
They're great.
/Neil) Neil

Which kit did you build?

Dave



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) That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
a classy model.
/Neil


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> Sent: den 9 april 2010 10:09
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> Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2
>
> Neil
>
> Which kit did you build?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have
> an opinion.
> They're great.
> /Neil
>
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> and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
> I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
> very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
> a classy model.
> /Neil
>

PS. The fact that I like Roden doesn't mean I dislike WNW! Far from it,
I just wish they'd see the light and scale down their Fe2b to 1/72.
And of course they need to do a full range of Spads. ) Neil

Neil

I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've recently been
given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
don't like the wings on the Revell kit.

Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.

Regards

Dave



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) Excellent, way to go! I never did it, but that must be the best thing to
do with Airfix Spad wings, they are nice and thin. I know you want to
make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be the
best.
/Neil


> Neil
>
> I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
> build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've
> recently been
> given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
> don't like the wings on the Revell kit.
>
> Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
> week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
> reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
> radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I know you want to
>make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
>Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
the
>best.

I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)

Dave



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) No, it was very good for it's day, but the MAC kit is better.
The problem with the MAC kit is that it is only for a late version,
and of course the thick trailing edges.
I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.
/Neil

> Neil
>
> >I know you want to
> >make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
> >Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
> the
> >best.
>
> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.

I should imagine they would do a very good job of it.

Regards

Dave


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) > I thought that asking for a Letord bomber was a wee too much...
> D.

> I think it's a well justified request.

Maybe we can convince Shane to start one from scratch.
D.
) > > I thought that asking for a Letord bomber was a wee too much...
> > D.
>
> > I think it's a well justified request.
>
> Maybe we can convince Shane to start one from scratch.
> D.


Yes for sure, seeing as it isn't a Spad or a Nieuport, it should be
easy to persuade him.
/Neil ) Hi D

Sorry, but black eyed pies don't really really do anything for me. How
about a bit of Camel?

Dave

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Sent: 09 April 2010 12:17
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Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2

> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit

Here's an adequate musical piece for this task
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEe_eraFWWs

D.



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)

>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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) > Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
> find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.
>
> Dave


As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have an opinion.
They're great.
/Neil) Neil

Which kit did you build?

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) That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
a classy model.
/Neil


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> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Hooper, Dave
> Sent: den 9 april 2010 10:09
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2
>
> Neil
>
> Which kit did you build?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have
> an opinion.
> They're great.
> /Neil
>
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> and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
> I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
> very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
> a classy model.
> /Neil
>

PS. The fact that I like Roden doesn't mean I dislike WNW! Far from it,
I just wish they'd see the light and scale down their Fe2b to 1/72.
And of course they need to do a full range of Spads. ) Neil

Neil

I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've recently been
given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
don't like the wings on the Revell kit.

Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.

Regards

Dave



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) Excellent, way to go! I never did it, but that must be the best thing to
do with Airfix Spad wings, they are nice and thin. I know you want to
make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be the
best.
/Neil


> Neil
>
> I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
> build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've
> recently been
> given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
> don't like the wings on the Revell kit.
>
> Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
> week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
> reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
> radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I know you want to
>make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
>Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
the
>best.

I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)

Dave



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) No, it was very good for it's day, but the MAC kit is better.
The problem with the MAC kit is that it is only for a late version,
and of course the thick trailing edges.
I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.
/Neil

> Neil
>
> >I know you want to
> >make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
> >Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
> the
> >best.
>
> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.

I should imagine they would do a very good job of it.

Regards

Dave


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) > I thought that asking for a Letord bomber was a wee too much...
> D.

> I think it's a well justified request.

Maybe we can convince Shane to start one from scratch.
D.
) > > I thought that asking for a Letord bomber was a wee too much...
> > D.
>
> > I think it's a well justified request.
>
> Maybe we can convince Shane to start one from scratch.
> D.


Yes for sure, seeing as it isn't a Spad or a Nieuport, it should be
easy to persuade him.
/Neil ) Hi D

Sorry, but black eyed pies don't really really do anything for me. How
about a bit of Camel?

Dave

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From: wwi- [mailto:wwi-] On
Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
Sent: 09 April 2010 12:17
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Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2

> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit

Here's an adequate musical piece for this task
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEe_eraFWWs

D.



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) > Yes for sure, seeing as it isn't a Spad or a Nieuport, it should be
> easy to persuade him.

Well, he was nieuportized enough, or so I've heard. His standards have
slipped with a gracious turn, it seems.
D.
we must remind him to keep off his hands from PC10 paint in this case,
though.

)

>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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> find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.
>
> Dave


As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have an opinion.
They're great.
/Neil) Neil

Which kit did you build?

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and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
a classy model.
/Neil


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> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Hooper, Dave
> Sent: den 9 april 2010 10:09
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> Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2
>
> Neil
>
> Which kit did you build?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have
> an opinion.
> They're great.
> /Neil
>
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> and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
> I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
> very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
> a classy model.
> /Neil
>

PS. The fact that I like Roden doesn't mean I dislike WNW! Far from it,
I just wish they'd see the light and scale down their Fe2b to 1/72.
And of course they need to do a full range of Spads. ) Neil

Neil

I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've recently been
given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
don't like the wings on the Revell kit.

Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.

Regards

Dave



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do with Airfix Spad wings, they are nice and thin. I know you want to
make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be the
best.
/Neil


> Neil
>
> I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
> build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've
> recently been
> given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
> don't like the wings on the Revell kit.
>
> Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
> week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
> reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
> radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I know you want to
>make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
>Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
the
>best.

I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)

Dave



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) No, it was very good for it's day, but the MAC kit is better.
The problem with the MAC kit is that it is only for a late version,
and of course the thick trailing edges.
I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.
/Neil

> Neil
>
> >I know you want to
> >make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
> >Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
> the
> >best.
>
> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.

I should imagine they would do a very good job of it.

Regards

Dave


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) > I thought that asking for a Letord bomber was a wee too much...
> D.

> I think it's a well justified request.

Maybe we can convince Shane to start one from scratch.
D.
) > > I thought that asking for a Letord bomber was a wee too much...
> > D.
>
> > I think it's a well justified request.
>
> Maybe we can convince Shane to start one from scratch.
> D.


Yes for sure, seeing as it isn't a Spad or a Nieuport, it should be
easy to persuade him.
/Neil ) Hi D

Sorry, but black eyed pies don't really really do anything for me. How
about a bit of Camel?

Dave

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Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2

> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit

Here's an adequate musical piece for this task
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEe_eraFWWs

D.



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) > Yes for sure, seeing as it isn't a Spad or a Nieuport, it should be
> easy to persuade him.

Well, he was nieuportized enough, or so I've heard. His standards have
slipped with a gracious turn, it seems.
D.
we must remind him to keep off his hands from PC10 paint in this case,
though.

) Dave!
> Sorry, but black eyed pies don't really really do anything for me.

I'd be content just with the lady singer. The rest, well, they're nice
musicians.

> How about a bit of Camel?

Wasn't that a song about Snoopy and the Red Baron?
D.

)

>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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> find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.
>
> Dave


As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have an opinion.
They're great.
/Neil) Neil

Which kit did you build?

Dave



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) That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
a classy model.
/Neil


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> Sent: den 9 april 2010 10:09
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2
>
> Neil
>
> Which kit did you build?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have
> an opinion.
> They're great.
> /Neil
>
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> and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
> I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
> very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
> a classy model.
> /Neil
>

PS. The fact that I like Roden doesn't mean I dislike WNW! Far from it,
I just wish they'd see the light and scale down their Fe2b to 1/72.
And of course they need to do a full range of Spads. ) Neil

Neil

I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've recently been
given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
don't like the wings on the Revell kit.

Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.

Regards

Dave



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) Excellent, way to go! I never did it, but that must be the best thing to
do with Airfix Spad wings, they are nice and thin. I know you want to
make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be the
best.
/Neil


> Neil
>
> I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
> build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've
> recently been
> given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
> don't like the wings on the Revell kit.
>
> Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
> week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
> reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
> radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I know you want to
>make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
>Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
the
>best.

I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)

Dave



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) No, it was very good for it's day, but the MAC kit is better.
The problem with the MAC kit is that it is only for a late version,
and of course the thick trailing edges.
I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.
/Neil

> Neil
>
> >I know you want to
> >make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
> >Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
> the
> >best.
>
> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.

I should imagine they would do a very good job of it.

Regards

Dave


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) > I thought that asking for a Letord bomber was a wee too much...
> D.

> I think it's a well justified request.

Maybe we can convince Shane to start one from scratch.
D.
) > > I thought that asking for a Letord bomber was a wee too much...
> > D.
>
> > I think it's a well justified request.
>
> Maybe we can convince Shane to start one from scratch.
> D.


Yes for sure, seeing as it isn't a Spad or a Nieuport, it should be
easy to persuade him.
/Neil ) Hi D

Sorry, but black eyed pies don't really really do anything for me. How
about a bit of Camel?

Dave

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From: wwi- [mailto:wwi-] On
Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
Sent: 09 April 2010 12:17
To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2

> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit

Here's an adequate musical piece for this task
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEe_eraFWWs

D.



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) > Yes for sure, seeing as it isn't a Spad or a Nieuport, it should be
> easy to persuade him.

Well, he was nieuportized enough, or so I've heard. His standards have
slipped with a gracious turn, it seems.
D.
we must remind him to keep off his hands from PC10 paint in this case,
though.

) Dave!
> Sorry, but black eyed pies don't really really do anything for me.

I'd be content just with the lady singer. The rest, well, they're nice
musicians.

> How about a bit of Camel?

Wasn't that a song about Snoopy and the Red Baron?
D.

) D

>Wasn't that a song about Snoopy and the Red Baron?

I don't know about snoopy and the Red Baron but this is the Camel I was
thinking of...

http://www.camelproductions.com/

I'm surprised they're still going

Dave



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>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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) > Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
> find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.
>
> Dave


As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have an opinion.
They're great.
/Neil) Neil

Which kit did you build?

Dave



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They're great.
/Neil


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and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
a classy model.
/Neil


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> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Hooper, Dave
> Sent: den 9 april 2010 10:09
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> Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2
>
> Neil
>
> Which kit did you build?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have
> an opinion.
> They're great.
> /Neil
>
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> and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
> I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
> very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
> a classy model.
> /Neil
>

PS. The fact that I like Roden doesn't mean I dislike WNW! Far from it,
I just wish they'd see the light and scale down their Fe2b to 1/72.
And of course they need to do a full range of Spads. ) Neil

Neil

I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've recently been
given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
don't like the wings on the Revell kit.

Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.

Regards

Dave



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do with Airfix Spad wings, they are nice and thin. I know you want to
make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be the
best.
/Neil


> Neil
>
> I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
> build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've
> recently been
> given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
> don't like the wings on the Revell kit.
>
> Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
> week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
> reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
> radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I know you want to
>make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
>Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
the
>best.

I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)

Dave



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) No, it was very good for it's day, but the MAC kit is better.
The problem with the MAC kit is that it is only for a late version,
and of course the thick trailing edges.
I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.
/Neil

> Neil
>
> >I know you want to
> >make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
> >Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
> the
> >best.
>
> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.

I should imagine they would do a very good job of it.

Regards

Dave


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) > I thought that asking for a Letord bomber was a wee too much...
> D.

> I think it's a well justified request.

Maybe we can convince Shane to start one from scratch.
D.
) > > I thought that asking for a Letord bomber was a wee too much...
> > D.
>
> > I think it's a well justified request.
>
> Maybe we can convince Shane to start one from scratch.
> D.


Yes for sure, seeing as it isn't a Spad or a Nieuport, it should be
easy to persuade him.
/Neil ) Hi D

Sorry, but black eyed pies don't really really do anything for me. How
about a bit of Camel?

Dave

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From: wwi- [mailto:wwi-] On
Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
Sent: 09 April 2010 12:17
To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2

> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit

Here's an adequate musical piece for this task
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEe_eraFWWs

D.



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) > Yes for sure, seeing as it isn't a Spad or a Nieuport, it should be
> easy to persuade him.

Well, he was nieuportized enough, or so I've heard. His standards have
slipped with a gracious turn, it seems.
D.
we must remind him to keep off his hands from PC10 paint in this case,
though.

) Dave!
> Sorry, but black eyed pies don't really really do anything for me.

I'd be content just with the lady singer. The rest, well, they're nice
musicians.

> How about a bit of Camel?

Wasn't that a song about Snoopy and the Red Baron?
D.

) D

>Wasn't that a song about Snoopy and the Red Baron?

I don't know about snoopy and the Red Baron but this is the Camel I was
thinking of...

http://www.camelproductions.com/

I'm surprised they're still going

Dave



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) > I don't know about snoopy and the Red Baron but this is the Camel I was
> thinking of...
> http://www.camelproductions.com/
> I'm surprised they're still going

I'm surprised too. I was completely unaware of their existence!
D.
)

>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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> find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.
>
> Dave


As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have an opinion.
They're great.
/Neil) Neil

Which kit did you build?

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) That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
a classy model.
/Neil


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>
> Neil
>
> Which kit did you build?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have
> an opinion.
> They're great.
> /Neil
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> and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
> I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
> very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
> a classy model.
> /Neil
>

PS. The fact that I like Roden doesn't mean I dislike WNW! Far from it,
I just wish they'd see the light and scale down their Fe2b to 1/72.
And of course they need to do a full range of Spads. ) Neil

Neil

I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've recently been
given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
don't like the wings on the Revell kit.

Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.

Regards

Dave



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) Excellent, way to go! I never did it, but that must be the best thing to
do with Airfix Spad wings, they are nice and thin. I know you want to
make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be the
best.
/Neil


> Neil
>
> I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
> build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've
> recently been
> given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
> don't like the wings on the Revell kit.
>
> Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
> week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
> reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
> radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I know you want to
>make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
>Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
the
>best.

I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)

Dave



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) No, it was very good for it's day, but the MAC kit is better.
The problem with the MAC kit is that it is only for a late version,
and of course the thick trailing edges.
I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.
/Neil

> Neil
>
> >I know you want to
> >make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
> >Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
> the
> >best.
>
> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.

I should imagine they would do a very good job of it.

Regards

Dave


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) > I thought that asking for a Letord bomber was a wee too much...
> D.

> I think it's a well justified request.

Maybe we can convince Shane to start one from scratch.
D.
) > > I thought that asking for a Letord bomber was a wee too much...
> > D.
>
> > I think it's a well justified request.
>
> Maybe we can convince Shane to start one from scratch.
> D.


Yes for sure, seeing as it isn't a Spad or a Nieuport, it should be
easy to persuade him.
/Neil ) Hi D

Sorry, but black eyed pies don't really really do anything for me. How
about a bit of Camel?

Dave

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> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit

Here's an adequate musical piece for this task
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEe_eraFWWs

D.



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) > Yes for sure, seeing as it isn't a Spad or a Nieuport, it should be
> easy to persuade him.

Well, he was nieuportized enough, or so I've heard. His standards have
slipped with a gracious turn, it seems.
D.
we must remind him to keep off his hands from PC10 paint in this case,
though.

) Dave!
> Sorry, but black eyed pies don't really really do anything for me.

I'd be content just with the lady singer. The rest, well, they're nice
musicians.

> How about a bit of Camel?

Wasn't that a song about Snoopy and the Red Baron?
D.

) D

>Wasn't that a song about Snoopy and the Red Baron?

I don't know about snoopy and the Red Baron but this is the Camel I was
thinking of...

http://www.camelproductions.com/

I'm surprised they're still going

Dave



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) > I don't know about snoopy and the Red Baron but this is the Camel I was
> thinking of...
> http://www.camelproductions.com/
> I'm surprised they're still going

I'm surprised too. I was completely unaware of their existence!
D.
) >
Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

Good luck!
<

Fine, but don't make it a rule of thumb. Roden decals have (veeery) slowly
gotten better over the years, and the ones I used for the SSW D.III review
worked well.

Paul.

)

>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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> find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.
>
> Dave


As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have an opinion.
They're great.
/Neil) Neil

Which kit did you build?

Dave



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They're great.
/Neil


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) That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
a classy model.
/Neil


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> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Hooper, Dave
> Sent: den 9 april 2010 10:09
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2
>
> Neil
>
> Which kit did you build?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have
> an opinion.
> They're great.
> /Neil
>
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> ) > That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
> and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
> I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
> very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
> a classy model.
> /Neil
>

PS. The fact that I like Roden doesn't mean I dislike WNW! Far from it,
I just wish they'd see the light and scale down their Fe2b to 1/72.
And of course they need to do a full range of Spads. ) Neil

Neil

I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've recently been
given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
don't like the wings on the Revell kit.

Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.

Regards

Dave



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) Excellent, way to go! I never did it, but that must be the best thing to
do with Airfix Spad wings, they are nice and thin. I know you want to
make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be the
best.
/Neil


> Neil
>
> I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
> build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've
> recently been
> given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
> don't like the wings on the Revell kit.
>
> Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
> week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
> reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
> radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I know you want to
>make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
>Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
the
>best.

I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)

Dave



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) No, it was very good for it's day, but the MAC kit is better.
The problem with the MAC kit is that it is only for a late version,
and of course the thick trailing edges.
I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.
/Neil

> Neil
>
> >I know you want to
> >make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
> >Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
> the
> >best.
>
> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.

I should imagine they would do a very good job of it.

Regards

Dave


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) > I thought that asking for a Letord bomber was a wee too much...
> D.

> I think it's a well justified request.

Maybe we can convince Shane to start one from scratch.
D.
) > > I thought that asking for a Letord bomber was a wee too much...
> > D.
>
> > I think it's a well justified request.
>
> Maybe we can convince Shane to start one from scratch.
> D.


Yes for sure, seeing as it isn't a Spad or a Nieuport, it should be
easy to persuade him.
/Neil ) Hi D

Sorry, but black eyed pies don't really really do anything for me. How
about a bit of Camel?

Dave

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Sent: 09 April 2010 12:17
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Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2

> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit

Here's an adequate musical piece for this task
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEe_eraFWWs

D.



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) > Yes for sure, seeing as it isn't a Spad or a Nieuport, it should be
> easy to persuade him.

Well, he was nieuportized enough, or so I've heard. His standards have
slipped with a gracious turn, it seems.
D.
we must remind him to keep off his hands from PC10 paint in this case,
though.

) Dave!
> Sorry, but black eyed pies don't really really do anything for me.

I'd be content just with the lady singer. The rest, well, they're nice
musicians.

> How about a bit of Camel?

Wasn't that a song about Snoopy and the Red Baron?
D.

) D

>Wasn't that a song about Snoopy and the Red Baron?

I don't know about snoopy and the Red Baron but this is the Camel I was
thinking of...

http://www.camelproductions.com/

I'm surprised they're still going

Dave



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) > I don't know about snoopy and the Red Baron but this is the Camel I was
> thinking of...
> http://www.camelproductions.com/
> I'm surprised they're still going

I'm surprised too. I was completely unaware of their existence!
D.
) >
Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

Good luck!
<

Fine, but don't make it a rule of thumb. Roden decals have (veeery) slowly
gotten better over the years, and the ones I used for the SSW D.III review
worked well.

Paul.

) > I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.

But it would be nicer if they do a Spad XVI!
D.
at least Roden kits are easier to get than MACkits, in these lands I know.
)

>This is extreme, but I've found the trick to Roden decals is nearly
boiling >water. I couldn't get my Fokker D.VI lozenge to settle down.
The decals >laughed at my decal softeners etc.

>Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

This obviously won't work for the ones which break in to tiny little
pieces as soon as they hit water, of which I've had more than my fair
share.

Other than the decals and the fact that they've abandoned 1/72 I can
find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.

Dave


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> find no reason to gripe about Roden kits.
>
> Dave


As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have an opinion.
They're great.
/Neil) Neil

Which kit did you build?

Dave



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) That was the Albatros DIII oeffag ser.253, all the complications
and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
a classy model.
/Neil


> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Hooper, Dave
> Sent: den 9 april 2010 10:09
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Roden Decals - Was Be.2
>
> Neil
>
> Which kit did you build?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> As I've just finished my first Roden kit, I can finally have
> an opinion.
> They're great.
> /Neil
>
>
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> and problems were entirely of my own making. The kit was excellent.
> I never did build the Revell kit, but as I understand we should be
> very happy that Roden and Part have made it much easier to achieve
> a classy model.
> /Neil
>

PS. The fact that I like Roden doesn't mean I dislike WNW! Far from it,
I just wish they'd see the light and scale down their Fe2b to 1/72.
And of course they need to do a full range of Spads. ) Neil

Neil

I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've recently been
given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
don't like the wings on the Revell kit.

Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.

Regards

Dave



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) Excellent, way to go! I never did it, but that must be the best thing to
do with Airfix Spad wings, they are nice and thin. I know you want to
make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be the
best.
/Neil


> Neil
>
> I've built the standard Roden D.III kit and found it a relatively easy
> build (other than decals that broke up in the water). I've
> recently been
> given a pile of old kits including some Revell D.IIIs. I have to say I
> don't like the wings on the Revell kit.
>
> Talking of which, I've been working on that updated airfix Spad this
> week. I did not meet any problems sanding down the lower wings and
> reskinning them. I spent most of last night adding shutters to the
> radiator. I've got the upper wings to reskin next.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I know you want to
>make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
>Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
the
>best.

I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)

Dave



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) No, it was very good for it's day, but the MAC kit is better.
The problem with the MAC kit is that it is only for a late version,
and of course the thick trailing edges.
I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.
/Neil

> Neil
>
> >I know you want to
> >make it completely Airfix, but if one was trying to build an ultimate
> >Spad 7, reskinned Airfix wings on a MAC or Pegasus fuselage might be
> the
> >best.
>
> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit but other than that I haven't touched the fuselage (yet!)
>
> Dave
) Neil

>I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.

I should imagine they would do a very good job of it.

Regards

Dave


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) > I thought that asking for a Letord bomber was a wee too much...
> D.

> I think it's a well justified request.

Maybe we can convince Shane to start one from scratch.
D.
) > > I thought that asking for a Letord bomber was a wee too much...
> > D.
>
> > I think it's a well justified request.
>
> Maybe we can convince Shane to start one from scratch.
> D.


Yes for sure, seeing as it isn't a Spad or a Nieuport, it should be
easy to persuade him.
/Neil ) Hi D

Sorry, but black eyed pies don't really really do anything for me. How
about a bit of Camel?

Dave

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> I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit

Here's an adequate musical piece for this task
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEe_eraFWWs

D.



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) > Yes for sure, seeing as it isn't a Spad or a Nieuport, it should be
> easy to persuade him.

Well, he was nieuportized enough, or so I've heard. His standards have
slipped with a gracious turn, it seems.
D.
we must remind him to keep off his hands from PC10 paint in this case,
though.

) Dave!
> Sorry, but black eyed pies don't really really do anything for me.

I'd be content just with the lady singer. The rest, well, they're nice
musicians.

> How about a bit of Camel?

Wasn't that a song about Snoopy and the Red Baron?
D.

) D

>Wasn't that a song about Snoopy and the Red Baron?

I don't know about snoopy and the Red Baron but this is the Camel I was
thinking of...

http://www.camelproductions.com/

I'm surprised they're still going

Dave



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) > I don't know about snoopy and the Red Baron but this is the Camel I was
> thinking of...
> http://www.camelproductions.com/
> I'm surprised they're still going

I'm surprised too. I was completely unaware of their existence!
D.
) >
Someone on HyperScale suggested wicked hot water. It seems to work.

Good luck!
<

Fine, but don't make it a rule of thumb. Roden decals have (veeery) slowly
gotten better over the years, and the ones I used for the SSW D.III review
worked well.

Paul.

) > I'd love Roden to release a 1/72 Spad 7.

But it would be nicer if they do a Spad XVI!
D.
at least Roden kits are easier to get than MACkits, in these lands I know.
) > I dont think the fuselage is too bad. I've had to rework the (for want
> of a better word) cylinder humps as these are very understated on the
> original kit

Here's an adequate musical piece for this task
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEe_eraFWWs

D.

)