N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

)

N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

) Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
Cyan it.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:34
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the
> rigging between
> > fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.
>
> Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of
> the Airfix
> Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
> replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
> starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric
> texture with
> thick paint coats.
> What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix
> parts is a bit
> "stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets
> are molded just
> as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the
> surface. This was
> easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light
> sanding, but
> what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips
> result of the
> extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying
> to correct
> them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to
> look after it
> dries and shrinks a little.
> As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from
> scratch...
> D.
>
>
)

N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

) Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
Cyan it.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:34
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the
> rigging between
> > fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.
>
> Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of
> the Airfix
> Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
> replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
> starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric
> texture with
> thick paint coats.
> What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix
> parts is a bit
> "stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets
> are molded just
> as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the
> surface. This was
> easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light
> sanding, but
> what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips
> result of the
> extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying
> to correct
> them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to
> look after it
> dries and shrinks a little.
> As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from
> scratch...
> D.
>
>
) N!
> Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
> leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
> Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
> Cyan it.

I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should have a centre
section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the Airfix parts.
D.
BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
capital letters to make the markings of this model?

)

N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

) Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
Cyan it.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:34
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the
> rigging between
> > fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.
>
> Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of
> the Airfix
> Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
> replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
> starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric
> texture with
> thick paint coats.
> What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix
> parts is a bit
> "stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets
> are molded just
> as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the
> surface. This was
> easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light
> sanding, but
> what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips
> result of the
> extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying
> to correct
> them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to
> look after it
> dries and shrinks a little.
> As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from
> scratch...
> D.
>
>
) N!
> Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
> leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
> Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
> Cyan it.

I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should have a centre
section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the Airfix parts.
D.
BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
capital letters to make the markings of this model?

) N!
> I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable then and still
> is!

BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging? In the picture
it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
D.

)

N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

) Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
Cyan it.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:34
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the
> rigging between
> > fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.
>
> Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of
> the Airfix
> Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
> replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
> starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric
> texture with
> thick paint coats.
> What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix
> parts is a bit
> "stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets
> are molded just
> as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the
> surface. This was
> easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light
> sanding, but
> what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips
> result of the
> extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying
> to correct
> them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to
> look after it
> dries and shrinks a little.
> As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from
> scratch...
> D.
>
>
) N!
> Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
> leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
> Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
> Cyan it.

I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should have a centre
section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the Airfix parts.
D.
BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
capital letters to make the markings of this model?

) N!
> I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable then and still
> is!

BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging? In the picture
it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
D.

) If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on white etc.
Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.
Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out oversize.
No more bright ideas.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:55
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips.
> Skinning ala Woodman
> > leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty
> or something.
> > Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to
> what you have.
> > Cyan it.
>
> I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
> intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should
> have a centre
> section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the
> Airfix parts.
> D.
> BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
> capital letters to make the markings of this model?
>
>
)

N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

) Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
Cyan it.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:34
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the
> rigging between
> > fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.
>
> Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of
> the Airfix
> Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
> replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
> starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric
> texture with
> thick paint coats.
> What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix
> parts is a bit
> "stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets
> are molded just
> as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the
> surface. This was
> easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light
> sanding, but
> what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips
> result of the
> extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying
> to correct
> them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to
> look after it
> dries and shrinks a little.
> As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from
> scratch...
> D.
>
>
) N!
> Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
> leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
> Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
> Cyan it.

I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should have a centre
section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the Airfix parts.
D.
BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
capital letters to make the markings of this model?

) N!
> I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable then and still
> is!

BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging? In the picture
it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
D.

) If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on white etc.
Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.
Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out oversize.
No more bright ideas.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:55
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips.
> Skinning ala Woodman
> > leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty
> or something.
> > Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to
> what you have.
> > Cyan it.
>
> I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
> intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should
> have a centre
> section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the
> Airfix parts.
> D.
> BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
> capital letters to make the markings of this model?
>
>
) N!
> If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on
> white etc.
> Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.

Letraset sheets are discontinued here. Could be purchased in other places? I
must calculate the approximate size of the lettering. Anyway, it's a waste
to buy two sheets of letraset just for five letters each.

> Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out
> oversize.
> No more bright ideas.

I have none of those.
D.

)

N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

) Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
Cyan it.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:34
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the
> rigging between
> > fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.
>
> Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of
> the Airfix
> Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
> replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
> starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric
> texture with
> thick paint coats.
> What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix
> parts is a bit
> "stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets
> are molded just
> as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the
> surface. This was
> easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light
> sanding, but
> what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips
> result of the
> extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying
> to correct
> them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to
> look after it
> dries and shrinks a little.
> As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from
> scratch...
> D.
>
>
) N!
> Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
> leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
> Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
> Cyan it.

I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should have a centre
section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the Airfix parts.
D.
BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
capital letters to make the markings of this model?

) N!
> I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable then and still
> is!

BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging? In the picture
it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
D.

) If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on white etc.
Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.
Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out oversize.
No more bright ideas.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:55
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips.
> Skinning ala Woodman
> > leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty
> or something.
> > Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to
> what you have.
> > Cyan it.
>
> I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
> intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should
> have a centre
> section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the
> Airfix parts.
> D.
> BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
> capital letters to make the markings of this model?
>
>
) N!
> If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on
> white etc.
> Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.

Letraset sheets are discontinued here. Could be purchased in other places? I
must calculate the approximate size of the lettering. Anyway, it's a waste
to buy two sheets of letraset just for five letters each.

> Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out
> oversize.
> No more bright ideas.

I have none of those.
D.

) > What a wonderful country!
> D.

Indeed! But the modellers are to good!

/W

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)

N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

) Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
Cyan it.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:34
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the
> rigging between
> > fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.
>
> Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of
> the Airfix
> Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
> replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
> starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric
> texture with
> thick paint coats.
> What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix
> parts is a bit
> "stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets
> are molded just
> as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the
> surface. This was
> easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light
> sanding, but
> what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips
> result of the
> extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying
> to correct
> them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to
> look after it
> dries and shrinks a little.
> As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from
> scratch...
> D.
>
>
) N!
> Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
> leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
> Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
> Cyan it.

I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should have a centre
section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the Airfix parts.
D.
BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
capital letters to make the markings of this model?

) N!
> I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable then and still
> is!

BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging? In the picture
it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
D.

) If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on white etc.
Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.
Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out oversize.
No more bright ideas.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:55
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips.
> Skinning ala Woodman
> > leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty
> or something.
> > Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to
> what you have.
> > Cyan it.
>
> I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
> intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should
> have a centre
> section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the
> Airfix parts.
> D.
> BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
> capital letters to make the markings of this model?
>
>
) N!
> If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on
> white etc.
> Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.

Letraset sheets are discontinued here. Could be purchased in other places? I
must calculate the approximate size of the lettering. Anyway, it's a waste
to buy two sheets of letraset just for five letters each.

> Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out
> oversize.
> No more bright ideas.

I have none of those.
D.

) > What a wonderful country!
> D.

Indeed! But the modellers are to good!

/W

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/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:56
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable
> then and still
> > is!
>
> BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging?
> In the picture
> it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
> D.
>
>
)

N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

) Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
Cyan it.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:34
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the
> rigging between
> > fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.
>
> Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of
> the Airfix
> Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
> replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
> starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric
> texture with
> thick paint coats.
> What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix
> parts is a bit
> "stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets
> are molded just
> as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the
> surface. This was
> easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light
> sanding, but
> what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips
> result of the
> extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying
> to correct
> them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to
> look after it
> dries and shrinks a little.
> As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from
> scratch...
> D.
>
>
) N!
> Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
> leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
> Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
> Cyan it.

I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should have a centre
section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the Airfix parts.
D.
BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
capital letters to make the markings of this model?

) N!
> I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable then and still
> is!

BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging? In the picture
it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
D.

) If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on white etc.
Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.
Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out oversize.
No more bright ideas.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:55
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips.
> Skinning ala Woodman
> > leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty
> or something.
> > Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to
> what you have.
> > Cyan it.
>
> I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
> intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should
> have a centre
> section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the
> Airfix parts.
> D.
> BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
> capital letters to make the markings of this model?
>
>
) N!
> If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on
> white etc.
> Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.

Letraset sheets are discontinued here. Could be purchased in other places? I
must calculate the approximate size of the lettering. Anyway, it's a waste
to buy two sheets of letraset just for five letters each.

> Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out
> oversize.
> No more bright ideas.

I have none of those.
D.

) > What a wonderful country!
> D.

Indeed! But the modellers are to good!

/W

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/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:56
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable
> then and still
> > is!
>
> BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging?
> In the picture
> it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
> D.
>
>
) It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Wolfram Oettel
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 14:49
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> > What a wonderful country!
> > D.
>
> Indeed! But the modellers are to good!
>
> /W
>
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>
)

N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

) Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
Cyan it.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:34
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the
> rigging between
> > fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.
>
> Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of
> the Airfix
> Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
> replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
> starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric
> texture with
> thick paint coats.
> What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix
> parts is a bit
> "stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets
> are molded just
> as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the
> surface. This was
> easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light
> sanding, but
> what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips
> result of the
> extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying
> to correct
> them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to
> look after it
> dries and shrinks a little.
> As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from
> scratch...
> D.
>
>
) N!
> Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
> leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
> Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
> Cyan it.

I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should have a centre
section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the Airfix parts.
D.
BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
capital letters to make the markings of this model?

) N!
> I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable then and still
> is!

BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging? In the picture
it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
D.

) If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on white etc.
Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.
Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out oversize.
No more bright ideas.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:55
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips.
> Skinning ala Woodman
> > leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty
> or something.
> > Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to
> what you have.
> > Cyan it.
>
> I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
> intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should
> have a centre
> section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the
> Airfix parts.
> D.
> BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
> capital letters to make the markings of this model?
>
>
) N!
> If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on
> white etc.
> Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.

Letraset sheets are discontinued here. Could be purchased in other places? I
must calculate the approximate size of the lettering. Anyway, it's a waste
to buy two sheets of letraset just for five letters each.

> Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out
> oversize.
> No more bright ideas.

I have none of those.
D.

) > What a wonderful country!
> D.

Indeed! But the modellers are to good!

/W

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/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:56
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable
> then and still
> > is!
>
> BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging?
> In the picture
> it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
> D.
>
>
) It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Wolfram Oettel
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 14:49
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> > What a wonderful country!
> > D.
>
> Indeed! But the modellers are to good!
>
> /W
>
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) N!
> I'm not sure, but in those days I think we all used stretched sprue.

Thanks!
D.
)

N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

) Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
Cyan it.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:34
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the
> rigging between
> > fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.
>
> Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of
> the Airfix
> Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
> replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
> starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric
> texture with
> thick paint coats.
> What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix
> parts is a bit
> "stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets
> are molded just
> as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the
> surface. This was
> easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light
> sanding, but
> what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips
> result of the
> extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying
> to correct
> them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to
> look after it
> dries and shrinks a little.
> As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from
> scratch...
> D.
>
>
) N!
> Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
> leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
> Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
> Cyan it.

I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should have a centre
section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the Airfix parts.
D.
BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
capital letters to make the markings of this model?

) N!
> I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable then and still
> is!

BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging? In the picture
it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
D.

) If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on white etc.
Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.
Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out oversize.
No more bright ideas.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:55
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips.
> Skinning ala Woodman
> > leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty
> or something.
> > Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to
> what you have.
> > Cyan it.
>
> I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
> intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should
> have a centre
> section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the
> Airfix parts.
> D.
> BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
> capital letters to make the markings of this model?
>
>
) N!
> If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on
> white etc.
> Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.

Letraset sheets are discontinued here. Could be purchased in other places? I
must calculate the approximate size of the lettering. Anyway, it's a waste
to buy two sheets of letraset just for five letters each.

> Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out
> oversize.
> No more bright ideas.

I have none of those.
D.

) > What a wonderful country!
> D.

Indeed! But the modellers are to good!

/W

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/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:56
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable
> then and still
> > is!
>
> BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging?
> In the picture
> it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
> D.
>
>
) It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Wolfram Oettel
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 14:49
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> > What a wonderful country!
> > D.
>
> Indeed! But the modellers are to good!
>
> /W
>
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) N!
> I'm not sure, but in those days I think we all used stretched sprue.

Thanks!
D.
) N!
> It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.

The three Bs: Blondes, Bulldozers and Benny.
D.

)

N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

) Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
Cyan it.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:34
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the
> rigging between
> > fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.
>
> Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of
> the Airfix
> Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
> replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
> starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric
> texture with
> thick paint coats.
> What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix
> parts is a bit
> "stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets
> are molded just
> as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the
> surface. This was
> easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light
> sanding, but
> what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips
> result of the
> extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying
> to correct
> them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to
> look after it
> dries and shrinks a little.
> As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from
> scratch...
> D.
>
>
) N!
> Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
> leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
> Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
> Cyan it.

I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should have a centre
section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the Airfix parts.
D.
BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
capital letters to make the markings of this model?

) N!
> I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable then and still
> is!

BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging? In the picture
it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
D.

) If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on white etc.
Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.
Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out oversize.
No more bright ideas.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:55
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips.
> Skinning ala Woodman
> > leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty
> or something.
> > Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to
> what you have.
> > Cyan it.
>
> I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
> intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should
> have a centre
> section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the
> Airfix parts.
> D.
> BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
> capital letters to make the markings of this model?
>
>
) N!
> If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on
> white etc.
> Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.

Letraset sheets are discontinued here. Could be purchased in other places? I
must calculate the approximate size of the lettering. Anyway, it's a waste
to buy two sheets of letraset just for five letters each.

> Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out
> oversize.
> No more bright ideas.

I have none of those.
D.

) > What a wonderful country!
> D.

Indeed! But the modellers are to good!

/W

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:56
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable
> then and still
> > is!
>
> BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging?
> In the picture
> it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
> D.
>
>
) It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Wolfram Oettel
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 14:49
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> > What a wonderful country!
> > D.
>
> Indeed! But the modellers are to good!
>
> /W
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) N!
> I'm not sure, but in those days I think we all used stretched sprue.

Thanks!
D.
) N!
> It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.

The three Bs: Blondes, Bulldozers and Benny.
D.

) I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the detail
on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes with
white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit you
first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or better
yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit of
the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!

Buz


)

N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

) Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
Cyan it.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:34
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the
> rigging between
> > fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.
>
> Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of
> the Airfix
> Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
> replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
> starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric
> texture with
> thick paint coats.
> What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix
> parts is a bit
> "stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets
> are molded just
> as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the
> surface. This was
> easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light
> sanding, but
> what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips
> result of the
> extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying
> to correct
> them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to
> look after it
> dries and shrinks a little.
> As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from
> scratch...
> D.
>
>
) N!
> Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
> leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
> Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
> Cyan it.

I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should have a centre
section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the Airfix parts.
D.
BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
capital letters to make the markings of this model?

) N!
> I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable then and still
> is!

BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging? In the picture
it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
D.

) If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on white etc.
Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.
Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out oversize.
No more bright ideas.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:55
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips.
> Skinning ala Woodman
> > leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty
> or something.
> > Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to
> what you have.
> > Cyan it.
>
> I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
> intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should
> have a centre
> section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the
> Airfix parts.
> D.
> BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
> capital letters to make the markings of this model?
>
>
) N!
> If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on
> white etc.
> Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.

Letraset sheets are discontinued here. Could be purchased in other places? I
must calculate the approximate size of the lettering. Anyway, it's a waste
to buy two sheets of letraset just for five letters each.

> Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out
> oversize.
> No more bright ideas.

I have none of those.
D.

) > What a wonderful country!
> D.

Indeed! But the modellers are to good!

/W

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/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:56
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable
> then and still
> > is!
>
> BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging?
> In the picture
> it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
> D.
>
>
) It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Wolfram Oettel
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 14:49
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> > What a wonderful country!
> > D.
>
> Indeed! But the modellers are to good!
>
> /W
>
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) N!
> I'm not sure, but in those days I think we all used stretched sprue.

Thanks!
D.
) N!
> It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.

The three Bs: Blondes, Bulldozers and Benny.
D.

) I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the detail
on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes with
white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit you
first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or better
yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit of
the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!

Buz


) LOL! I read this and said wait.......it's not that bad. Until I read
the last line and realised it's the Sierra kit I have!
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Buz Pezold
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 16:06
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
>
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and
> laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform
> kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use
> for the detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The
> kit comes with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To
> build the kit you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily
> in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine
> nacels. Or better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72
> vacuform kit of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!
>
> Buz
>
>
>
)

N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

) Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
Cyan it.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:34
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the
> rigging between
> > fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.
>
> Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of
> the Airfix
> Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
> replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
> starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric
> texture with
> thick paint coats.
> What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix
> parts is a bit
> "stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets
> are molded just
> as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the
> surface. This was
> easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light
> sanding, but
> what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips
> result of the
> extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying
> to correct
> them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to
> look after it
> dries and shrinks a little.
> As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from
> scratch...
> D.
>
>
) N!
> Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
> leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
> Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
> Cyan it.

I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should have a centre
section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the Airfix parts.
D.
BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
capital letters to make the markings of this model?

) N!
> I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable then and still
> is!

BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging? In the picture
it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
D.

) If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on white etc.
Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.
Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out oversize.
No more bright ideas.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:55
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips.
> Skinning ala Woodman
> > leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty
> or something.
> > Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to
> what you have.
> > Cyan it.
>
> I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
> intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should
> have a centre
> section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the
> Airfix parts.
> D.
> BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
> capital letters to make the markings of this model?
>
>
) N!
> If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on
> white etc.
> Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.

Letraset sheets are discontinued here. Could be purchased in other places? I
must calculate the approximate size of the lettering. Anyway, it's a waste
to buy two sheets of letraset just for five letters each.

> Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out
> oversize.
> No more bright ideas.

I have none of those.
D.

) > What a wonderful country!
> D.

Indeed! But the modellers are to good!

/W

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/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:56
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable
> then and still
> > is!
>
> BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging?
> In the picture
> it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
> D.
>
>
) It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Wolfram Oettel
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 14:49
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> > What a wonderful country!
> > D.
>
> Indeed! But the modellers are to good!
>
> /W
>
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) N!
> I'm not sure, but in those days I think we all used stretched sprue.

Thanks!
D.
) N!
> It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.

The three Bs: Blondes, Bulldozers and Benny.
D.

) I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the detail
on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes with
white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit you
first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or better
yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit of
the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!

Buz


) LOL! I read this and said wait.......it's not that bad. Until I read
the last line and realised it's the Sierra kit I have!
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Buz Pezold
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 16:06
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
>
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and
> laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform
> kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use
> for the detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The
> kit comes with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To
> build the kit you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily
> in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine
> nacels. Or better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72
> vacuform kit of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!
>
> Buz
>
>
>
) Ever seen the Classic Plane Macchi Parasol?

/W.
BTW, what´s your favourite 1/72 OT Kit?

>
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the
> detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes
> with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit
> you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or
> better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit
> of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!
>
> Buz
>
>

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N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

) Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
Cyan it.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:34
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the
> rigging between
> > fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.
>
> Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of
> the Airfix
> Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
> replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
> starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric
> texture with
> thick paint coats.
> What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix
> parts is a bit
> "stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets
> are molded just
> as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the
> surface. This was
> easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light
> sanding, but
> what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips
> result of the
> extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying
> to correct
> them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to
> look after it
> dries and shrinks a little.
> As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from
> scratch...
> D.
>
>
) N!
> Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
> leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
> Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
> Cyan it.

I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should have a centre
section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the Airfix parts.
D.
BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
capital letters to make the markings of this model?

) N!
> I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable then and still
> is!

BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging? In the picture
it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
D.

) If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on white etc.
Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.
Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out oversize.
No more bright ideas.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:55
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips.
> Skinning ala Woodman
> > leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty
> or something.
> > Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to
> what you have.
> > Cyan it.
>
> I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
> intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should
> have a centre
> section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the
> Airfix parts.
> D.
> BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
> capital letters to make the markings of this model?
>
>
) N!
> If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on
> white etc.
> Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.

Letraset sheets are discontinued here. Could be purchased in other places? I
must calculate the approximate size of the lettering. Anyway, it's a waste
to buy two sheets of letraset just for five letters each.

> Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out
> oversize.
> No more bright ideas.

I have none of those.
D.

) > What a wonderful country!
> D.

Indeed! But the modellers are to good!

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/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:56
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable
> then and still
> > is!
>
> BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging?
> In the picture
> it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
> D.
>
>
) It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Wolfram Oettel
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 14:49
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> > What a wonderful country!
> > D.
>
> Indeed! But the modellers are to good!
>
> /W
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) N!
> I'm not sure, but in those days I think we all used stretched sprue.

Thanks!
D.
) N!
> It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.

The three Bs: Blondes, Bulldozers and Benny.
D.

) I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the detail
on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes with
white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit you
first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or better
yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit of
the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!

Buz


) LOL! I read this and said wait.......it's not that bad. Until I read
the last line and realised it's the Sierra kit I have!
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Buz Pezold
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 16:06
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
>
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and
> laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform
> kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use
> for the detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The
> kit comes with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To
> build the kit you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily
> in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine
> nacels. Or better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72
> vacuform kit of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!
>
> Buz
>
>
>
) Ever seen the Classic Plane Macchi Parasol?

/W.
BTW, what´s your favourite 1/72 OT Kit?

>
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the
> detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes
> with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit
> you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or
> better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit
> of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!
>
> Buz
>
>

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) On 21/10/2010 1:05 AM, Buz Pezold wrote:
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!

Hi all,

Worst kit is easy - anything I build ;-)

Best Kit - any kit still in the box - I can still dream about how good
it'll be ;-)

StY


)

N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

) Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
Cyan it.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:34
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the
> rigging between
> > fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.
>
> Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of
> the Airfix
> Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
> replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
> starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric
> texture with
> thick paint coats.
> What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix
> parts is a bit
> "stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets
> are molded just
> as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the
> surface. This was
> easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light
> sanding, but
> what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips
> result of the
> extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying
> to correct
> them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to
> look after it
> dries and shrinks a little.
> As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from
> scratch...
> D.
>
>
) N!
> Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
> leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
> Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
> Cyan it.

I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should have a centre
section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the Airfix parts.
D.
BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
capital letters to make the markings of this model?

) N!
> I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable then and still
> is!

BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging? In the picture
it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
D.

) If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on white etc.
Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.
Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out oversize.
No more bright ideas.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:55
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips.
> Skinning ala Woodman
> > leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty
> or something.
> > Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to
> what you have.
> > Cyan it.
>
> I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
> intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should
> have a centre
> section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the
> Airfix parts.
> D.
> BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
> capital letters to make the markings of this model?
>
>
) N!
> If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on
> white etc.
> Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.

Letraset sheets are discontinued here. Could be purchased in other places? I
must calculate the approximate size of the lettering. Anyway, it's a waste
to buy two sheets of letraset just for five letters each.

> Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out
> oversize.
> No more bright ideas.

I have none of those.
D.

) > What a wonderful country!
> D.

Indeed! But the modellers are to good!

/W

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/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:56
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable
> then and still
> > is!
>
> BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging?
> In the picture
> it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
> D.
>
>
) It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Wolfram Oettel
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 14:49
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> > What a wonderful country!
> > D.
>
> Indeed! But the modellers are to good!
>
> /W
>
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) N!
> I'm not sure, but in those days I think we all used stretched sprue.

Thanks!
D.
) N!
> It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.

The three Bs: Blondes, Bulldozers and Benny.
D.

) I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the detail
on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes with
white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit you
first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or better
yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit of
the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!

Buz


) LOL! I read this and said wait.......it's not that bad. Until I read
the last line and realised it's the Sierra kit I have!
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Buz Pezold
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 16:06
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
>
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and
> laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform
> kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use
> for the detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The
> kit comes with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To
> build the kit you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily
> in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine
> nacels. Or better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72
> vacuform kit of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!
>
> Buz
>
>
>
) Ever seen the Classic Plane Macchi Parasol?

/W.
BTW, what´s your favourite 1/72 OT Kit?

>
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the
> detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes
> with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit
> you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or
> better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit
> of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!
>
> Buz
>
>

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) On 21/10/2010 1:05 AM, Buz Pezold wrote:
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!

Hi all,

Worst kit is easy - anything I build ;-)

Best Kit - any kit still in the box - I can still dream about how good
it'll be ;-)

StY


) > Hi all,
>
> Worst kit is easy - anything I build ;-)
>
> Best Kit - any kit still in the box - I can still dream
> about how good
> it'll be ;-)
>
> StY


Thats so true, I always hate whatever I'm building.
/Neil
)

N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

) Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
Cyan it.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:34
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the
> rigging between
> > fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.
>
> Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of
> the Airfix
> Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
> replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
> starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric
> texture with
> thick paint coats.
> What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix
> parts is a bit
> "stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets
> are molded just
> as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the
> surface. This was
> easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light
> sanding, but
> what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips
> result of the
> extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying
> to correct
> them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to
> look after it
> dries and shrinks a little.
> As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from
> scratch...
> D.
>
>
) N!
> Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
> leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
> Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
> Cyan it.

I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should have a centre
section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the Airfix parts.
D.
BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
capital letters to make the markings of this model?

) N!
> I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable then and still
> is!

BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging? In the picture
it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
D.

) If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on white etc.
Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.
Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out oversize.
No more bright ideas.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:55
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips.
> Skinning ala Woodman
> > leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty
> or something.
> > Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to
> what you have.
> > Cyan it.
>
> I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
> intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should
> have a centre
> section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the
> Airfix parts.
> D.
> BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
> capital letters to make the markings of this model?
>
>
) N!
> If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on
> white etc.
> Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.

Letraset sheets are discontinued here. Could be purchased in other places? I
must calculate the approximate size of the lettering. Anyway, it's a waste
to buy two sheets of letraset just for five letters each.

> Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out
> oversize.
> No more bright ideas.

I have none of those.
D.

) > What a wonderful country!
> D.

Indeed! But the modellers are to good!

/W

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/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:56
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable
> then and still
> > is!
>
> BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging?
> In the picture
> it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
> D.
>
>
) It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Wolfram Oettel
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 14:49
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> > What a wonderful country!
> > D.
>
> Indeed! But the modellers are to good!
>
> /W
>
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) N!
> I'm not sure, but in those days I think we all used stretched sprue.

Thanks!
D.
) N!
> It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.

The three Bs: Blondes, Bulldozers and Benny.
D.

) I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the detail
on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes with
white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit you
first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or better
yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit of
the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!

Buz


) LOL! I read this and said wait.......it's not that bad. Until I read
the last line and realised it's the Sierra kit I have!
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Buz Pezold
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 16:06
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
>
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and
> laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform
> kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use
> for the detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The
> kit comes with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To
> build the kit you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily
> in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine
> nacels. Or better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72
> vacuform kit of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!
>
> Buz
>
>
>
) Ever seen the Classic Plane Macchi Parasol?

/W.
BTW, what´s your favourite 1/72 OT Kit?

>
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the
> detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes
> with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit
> you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or
> better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit
> of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!
>
> Buz
>
>

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) On 21/10/2010 1:05 AM, Buz Pezold wrote:
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!

Hi all,

Worst kit is easy - anything I build ;-)

Best Kit - any kit still in the box - I can still dream about how good
it'll be ;-)

StY


) > Hi all,
>
> Worst kit is easy - anything I build ;-)
>
> Best Kit - any kit still in the box - I can still dream
> about how good
> it'll be ;-)
>
> StY


Thats so true, I always hate whatever I'm building.
/Neil
) Wolfram:
>
> Ever seen the Classic Plane Macchi Parasol?


Thank you, I'd rather not, one Classic plane kit was quite sufficient!
/Neil
)

N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

) Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
Cyan it.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:34
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the
> rigging between
> > fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.
>
> Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of
> the Airfix
> Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
> replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
> starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric
> texture with
> thick paint coats.
> What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix
> parts is a bit
> "stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets
> are molded just
> as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the
> surface. This was
> easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light
> sanding, but
> what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips
> result of the
> extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying
> to correct
> them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to
> look after it
> dries and shrinks a little.
> As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from
> scratch...
> D.
>
>
) N!
> Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
> leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
> Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
> Cyan it.

I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should have a centre
section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the Airfix parts.
D.
BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
capital letters to make the markings of this model?

) N!
> I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable then and still
> is!

BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging? In the picture
it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
D.

) If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on white etc.
Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.
Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out oversize.
No more bright ideas.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:55
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips.
> Skinning ala Woodman
> > leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty
> or something.
> > Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to
> what you have.
> > Cyan it.
>
> I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
> intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should
> have a centre
> section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the
> Airfix parts.
> D.
> BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
> capital letters to make the markings of this model?
>
>
) N!
> If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on
> white etc.
> Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.

Letraset sheets are discontinued here. Could be purchased in other places? I
must calculate the approximate size of the lettering. Anyway, it's a waste
to buy two sheets of letraset just for five letters each.

> Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out
> oversize.
> No more bright ideas.

I have none of those.
D.

) > What a wonderful country!
> D.

Indeed! But the modellers are to good!

/W

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/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:56
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable
> then and still
> > is!
>
> BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging?
> In the picture
> it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
> D.
>
>
) It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Wolfram Oettel
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 14:49
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> > What a wonderful country!
> > D.
>
> Indeed! But the modellers are to good!
>
> /W
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) N!
> I'm not sure, but in those days I think we all used stretched sprue.

Thanks!
D.
) N!
> It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.

The three Bs: Blondes, Bulldozers and Benny.
D.

) I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the detail
on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes with
white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit you
first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or better
yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit of
the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!

Buz


) LOL! I read this and said wait.......it's not that bad. Until I read
the last line and realised it's the Sierra kit I have!
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Buz Pezold
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 16:06
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
>
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and
> laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform
> kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use
> for the detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The
> kit comes with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To
> build the kit you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily
> in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine
> nacels. Or better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72
> vacuform kit of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!
>
> Buz
>
>
>
) Ever seen the Classic Plane Macchi Parasol?

/W.
BTW, what´s your favourite 1/72 OT Kit?

>
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the
> detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes
> with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit
> you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or
> better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit
> of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!
>
> Buz
>
>

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) On 21/10/2010 1:05 AM, Buz Pezold wrote:
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!

Hi all,

Worst kit is easy - anything I build ;-)

Best Kit - any kit still in the box - I can still dream about how good
it'll be ;-)

StY


) > Hi all,
>
> Worst kit is easy - anything I build ;-)
>
> Best Kit - any kit still in the box - I can still dream
> about how good
> it'll be ;-)
>
> StY


Thats so true, I always hate whatever I'm building.
/Neil
) Wolfram:
>
> Ever seen the Classic Plane Macchi Parasol?


Thank you, I'd rather not, one Classic plane kit was quite sufficient!
/Neil
) > nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III.

> Or better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit
> of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!

Agree. I have both (the Sierra thanks to the generosity of certain wonderful
listee who saw my desperation when I got the Formaplane kit) and I was
planning to use the Formaplane parts as a sort of "styrene shape bank" for
other projects. Too bad it has so few round shapes!
D.
Thanks again, wonderful listee!

)

N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

) Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
Cyan it.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:34
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the
> rigging between
> > fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.
>
> Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of
> the Airfix
> Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
> replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
> starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric
> texture with
> thick paint coats.
> What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix
> parts is a bit
> "stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets
> are molded just
> as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the
> surface. This was
> easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light
> sanding, but
> what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips
> result of the
> extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying
> to correct
> them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to
> look after it
> dries and shrinks a little.
> As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from
> scratch...
> D.
>
>
) N!
> Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
> leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
> Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
> Cyan it.

I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should have a centre
section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the Airfix parts.
D.
BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
capital letters to make the markings of this model?

) N!
> I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable then and still
> is!

BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging? In the picture
it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
D.

) If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on white etc.
Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.
Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out oversize.
No more bright ideas.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:55
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips.
> Skinning ala Woodman
> > leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty
> or something.
> > Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to
> what you have.
> > Cyan it.
>
> I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
> intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should
> have a centre
> section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the
> Airfix parts.
> D.
> BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
> capital letters to make the markings of this model?
>
>
) N!
> If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on
> white etc.
> Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.

Letraset sheets are discontinued here. Could be purchased in other places? I
must calculate the approximate size of the lettering. Anyway, it's a waste
to buy two sheets of letraset just for five letters each.

> Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out
> oversize.
> No more bright ideas.

I have none of those.
D.

) > What a wonderful country!
> D.

Indeed! But the modellers are to good!

/W

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/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:56
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable
> then and still
> > is!
>
> BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging?
> In the picture
> it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
> D.
>
>
) It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Wolfram Oettel
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 14:49
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> > What a wonderful country!
> > D.
>
> Indeed! But the modellers are to good!
>
> /W
>
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) N!
> I'm not sure, but in those days I think we all used stretched sprue.

Thanks!
D.
) N!
> It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.

The three Bs: Blondes, Bulldozers and Benny.
D.

) I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the detail
on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes with
white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit you
first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or better
yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit of
the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!

Buz


) LOL! I read this and said wait.......it's not that bad. Until I read
the last line and realised it's the Sierra kit I have!
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Buz Pezold
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 16:06
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
>
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and
> laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform
> kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use
> for the detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The
> kit comes with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To
> build the kit you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily
> in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine
> nacels. Or better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72
> vacuform kit of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!
>
> Buz
>
>
>
) Ever seen the Classic Plane Macchi Parasol?

/W.
BTW, what´s your favourite 1/72 OT Kit?

>
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the
> detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes
> with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit
> you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or
> better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit
> of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!
>
> Buz
>
>

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) On 21/10/2010 1:05 AM, Buz Pezold wrote:
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!

Hi all,

Worst kit is easy - anything I build ;-)

Best Kit - any kit still in the box - I can still dream about how good
it'll be ;-)

StY


) > Hi all,
>
> Worst kit is easy - anything I build ;-)
>
> Best Kit - any kit still in the box - I can still dream
> about how good
> it'll be ;-)
>
> StY


Thats so true, I always hate whatever I'm building.
/Neil
) Wolfram:
>
> Ever seen the Classic Plane Macchi Parasol?


Thank you, I'd rather not, one Classic plane kit was quite sufficient!
/Neil
) > nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III.

> Or better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit
> of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!

Agree. I have both (the Sierra thanks to the generosity of certain wonderful
listee who saw my desperation when I got the Formaplane kit) and I was
planning to use the Formaplane parts as a sort of "styrene shape bank" for
other projects. Too bad it has so few round shapes!
D.
Thanks again, wonderful listee!

) W!
> Ever seen the Classic Plane Macchi Parasol?

Nope. But it was one of the rare kits I was looking for. IIRC there was
plans of it in an old issue of Windsock, and it looks like a spruced up
Morane Saulnier L. Is the kit too ugly?
I have a real bad copy of the Classic Plane Pfalz D.XII, where the molds
seem to have been dirty or damaged. However, I've seen others, and the kit
seems buildable. If you really need a Pfalz, I mean.

> BTW, what´s your favourite 1/72 OT Kit?

The Eduard Nieuport 17 is a delight.
D.

)

N!
> Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the rigging between
> fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.

Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of the Airfix
Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric texture with
thick paint coats.
What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix parts is a bit
"stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets are molded just
as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the surface. This was
easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light sanding, but
what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips result of the
extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying to correct
them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to look after it
dries and shrinks a little.
As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from scratch...
D.

) Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
Cyan it.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:34
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Anders mentioned the ailerons were different, and the
> rigging between
> > fuselage and wings. And then of course all the Airfix nastiness.
>
> Speaking of which, yesterday I kept on sanding the wings of
> the Airfix
> Sopwith pu. The ribs on this kit are very prominent and I should have
> replaced them for scratchbuilt items instead of trying to correct the
> starved cow effect just by sanding or filling the odd fabric
> texture with
> thick paint coats.
> What I discovered was that the leading edge of the airfix
> parts is a bit
> "stepped" as a result of mould misalignment, and the riblets
> are molded just
> as small lines and not contoured with the rest of the
> surface. This was
> easily fixed with a few thin coats of tamiya putty and light
> sanding, but
> what's not as easy to disguise are the "concave" wingtips
> result of the
> extraordinary depth molded between the rib ridges. I'm trying
> to correct
> them with more diluted putty, but I can't tell how's going to
> look after it
> dries and shrinks a little.
> As I said before, it would have been easier to make them from
> scratch...
> D.
>
>
) N!
> Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips. Skinning ala Woodman
> leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty or something.
> Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to what you have.
> Cyan it.

I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should have a centre
section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the Airfix parts.
D.
BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
capital letters to make the markings of this model?

) N!
> I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable then and still
> is!

BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging? In the picture
it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
D.

) If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on white etc.
Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.
Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out oversize.
No more bright ideas.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:55
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Airfix WAS: Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > Probably, but you'd still have challenged wingtips.
> Skinning ala Woodman
> > leaves you with messy tips to sort out with sanding/putty
> or something.
> > Even so it's not too late, just slap on an embossed skin to
> what you have.
> > Cyan it.
>
> I bet that's the best course of action. Besides I discovered that my
> intended Pup subject (a Zepp chaser named "JULIA") should
> have a centre
> section cutout and not the wholly covered wing type as in the
> Airfix parts.
> D.
> BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
> capital letters to make the markings of this model?
>
>
) N!
> If you can get red letters and some white letters, you could place red on
> white etc.
> Probably no help, both red and white letters are difficult to find.

Letraset sheets are discontinued here. Could be purchased in other places? I
must calculate the approximate size of the lettering. Anyway, it's a waste
to buy two sheets of letraset just for five letters each.

> Use the computer, print red letters on white decal paper, cut out
> oversize.
> No more bright ideas.

I have none of those.
D.

) > What a wonderful country!
> D.

Indeed! But the modellers are to good!

/W

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) I'm not sure, but in those days I think we all used stretched sprue.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Diego Fernetti
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 13:56
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> N!
> > I think it must be 20-30 years old now, he was unbearable
> then and still
> > is!
>
> BTW Neil, do you know what material Anders uses for rigging?
> In the picture
> it does seems to be very close to scale thickness.
> D.
>
>
) It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Wolfram Oettel
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 14:49
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
> > What a wonderful country!
> > D.
>
> Indeed! But the modellers are to good!
>
> /W
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) N!
> I'm not sure, but in those days I think we all used stretched sprue.

Thanks!
D.
) N!
> It's the endless darkness and the surströmming.

The three Bs: Blondes, Bulldozers and Benny.
D.

) I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the detail
on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes with
white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit you
first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or better
yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit of
the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!

Buz


) LOL! I read this and said wait.......it's not that bad. Until I read
the last line and realised it's the Sierra kit I have!
/Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wwi-
> [mailto:wwi-] On Behalf Of Buz Pezold
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2010 16:06
> To: World War I Modeling Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [WWI] Worst OT kit
>
>
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and
> laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform
> kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use
> for the detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The
> kit comes with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To
> build the kit you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily
> in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine
> nacels. Or better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72
> vacuform kit of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!
>
> Buz
>
>
>
) Ever seen the Classic Plane Macchi Parasol?

/W.
BTW, what´s your favourite 1/72 OT Kit?

>
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the
> detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes
> with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit
> you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or
> better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit
> of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!
>
> Buz
>
>

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) On 21/10/2010 1:05 AM, Buz Pezold wrote:
> I've been reading this thread with great interest and laughter. My
> nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III. It looks like a butter knife was use for the detail
> on the styrene from the molds what little detail exists. The kit comes with
> white metal parts, but the engine parts are unusable. To build the kit you
> first throw away 90% of the molded parts and invest heavily in EVERGREEN
> styrene and scratch build your fuselage, wings and engine nacels. Or better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!

Hi all,

Worst kit is easy - anything I build ;-)

Best Kit - any kit still in the box - I can still dream about how good
it'll be ;-)

StY


) > Hi all,
>
> Worst kit is easy - anything I build ;-)
>
> Best Kit - any kit still in the box - I can still dream
> about how good
> it'll be ;-)
>
> StY


Thats so true, I always hate whatever I'm building.
/Neil
) Wolfram:
>
> Ever seen the Classic Plane Macchi Parasol?


Thank you, I'd rather not, one Classic plane kit was quite sufficient!
/Neil
) > nominee for the worst OT kit is the FORMAPLANE 1/72 vacuform kit of the
> FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III.

> Or better
> yet throw the whole kit away and build the SIERRA SCALE 1/72 vacuform kit
> of
> the FRIEDRICHSHAFEN G.III!

Agree. I have both (the Sierra thanks to the generosity of certain wonderful
listee who saw my desperation when I got the Formaplane kit) and I was
planning to use the Formaplane parts as a sort of "styrene shape bank" for
other projects. Too bad it has so few round shapes!
D.
Thanks again, wonderful listee!

) W!
> Ever seen the Classic Plane Macchi Parasol?

Nope. But it was one of the rare kits I was looking for. IIRC there was
plans of it in an old issue of Windsock, and it looks like a spruced up
Morane Saulnier L. Is the kit too ugly?
I have a real bad copy of the Classic Plane Pfalz D.XII, where the molds
seem to have been dirty or damaged. However, I've seen others, and the kit
seems buildable. If you really need a Pfalz, I mean.

> BTW, what´s your favourite 1/72 OT Kit?

The Eduard Nieuport 17 is a delight.
D.

) D. writes:
> BTW anyone knows from where I can get small (red with white"shadows")
> capital letters to make the markings of this model?

When I was hacking merrily away on the Airfix kit a few years back
trying to build Dimmock's No. 46 Sqdn machine I ended up doing the
"NORMIE" on the side with *really* tiny white letters from my local
model RR store, I'm sure they've got bigger letters that might be
applicable. Is there one in Rosario? If not LMK and I'll look up here.

RR shops are great places to find stuff that can be useful for
aero-modelling, BTW... O-gauge is actually 1:45, HO is 1:87. And they're
nice folks, too.

D.V


>>On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:54 -0300, "Diego Fernetti" <> wrote:
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