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The Hungarian Social Forum – SR has edited on Thursday to the national press the information on the italian initiative of referendum against the privatisation of Water. Immediately the following press agencies have relayed the HSF information: see a selection of the most important ones:es http://www.orientpress.hu/71201/RSS http://www.demokrata.hu/napi-hir/nepszavazasi-kezdemenyezes-olaszorszagban-viz-koztulajdonban-tartasarol http://www.civilhir.info/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1175&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 http://ingatlan.net/magazin/2010/09/europaban-is-kitor-a-vizhaboru-a-multik-ellen/ http://www.polgarinfo.hu/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=66511 Dear Italian Friends, Could somebody give us a correct information about the attack of FIOM activists against the CISL TUC in Rome?! Es The Hungarian Social Forum - Social Roundtable expresses his Solidarity with the Italian CISL Trade Union Confederation aggressed by a group of extremists of FIOM on Wednesday in Rome. We consider intolerable the attack of workers against other workers not accepting far leftist ideology. We call the attention of the ESF to the grave danger of such antidemocratic acts destinated to divide the Working Society, serving the exclusive interest of the big capital, and bringing grist to far right mills.+++ HSF SR

"Sim� Endre" <> �rta:
>Dear Italian Friends, Could somebody give us a correct information about the attack of FIOM activists against the CISL TUC in Rome?! Es
>Dear Italian Friends,
>
>
>
>Could somebody give us a correct information about the attack of FIOM activists against the CISL TUC in Rome?!
>
>
>
>Es_______________________________________________
___________________________________________________

Posted on the FSE-ESF mailing list. Go to http://lists.fse-esf.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fse-esf to subscribe. Dear Simo, dear Hungarian social forum roundtable and dear all,

first of all it would be better to wait for an answer of clarification,
before taking a position. I received just now the message below message.
Here the answers:
- first of all: what happened? Some social activists of a movement
called "Rights in Action" (NO FIOM) threw some eggs and red paint
against the building of CISL head quarter in Rome.
- We don't consider this an aggression neither a violence, but an
unuseful and wrong act that is used to support an instrumental harsh
campaign against all those who are trying to resist to Governement and
employers attacks - aggressions to labour, first of all the cancellation
of the collective national contract.
- Our evaluation is the same for the previous fact, happened in
Bergamo: eggs against the local Cisl head quarter, thrown by few
workers, Fiom members

We invited all our members and also those who are not, to refrain from
such acts, mainly used against metalworkers and Fiom, and all those who
"dissent".

The campaign (against "violence, terrorism, and other similiar things"
that have nothing to do with EGGS....), leaded by Governement and
Ministry of labour in particular, and by some mainstream media, is
intended to undermine the big national metalworkers demonstration in
Rome on the 16th of october, called by Fiom, where many other
associations, social movements, and parties will participate. Title of
the demonstration: *NO TO BLACKMAIL, YES TO THE RIGHTS - WORK IS A
COMMON GOOD! (Solidarity messages are most welcome!)*

Actually, Fiom is* "guilty" *because we are the only Union who refused
to sign agreements with Federmeccanica (employers association), with
Fiat, with Governement - agreements detrimental for workers' and Union
rights, destroying the national collective contract, agreements that
the other Unions (including Cisl) did sign, without any democratic
workers' mandate!!!!
And this is the reason why workers are angry, neither extremists nor
"far leftist"!

*To be very frank, dear hungarian friends, I consider these separate
agreements the real "intolerable attack" and the real "antidemocratic
act destinate to divide the working society".
PLEASE, THINK ABOUT!

I will be pleased to send more informations, if requested!

All the best to all of you
Alessandra Mecozzi
*

Sim� Endre ha scritto:
> The Hungarian Social Forum - Social Roundtable expresses his
> Solidarity with the Italian CISL Trade Union Confederation aggressed
> by a group of extremists of FIOM on Wednesday in Rome. We consider
> intolerable the attack of workers against other workers not accepting
> far leftist ideology. We call the attention of the ESF to the grave
> danger of such antidemocratic acts destinated to divide the Working
> Society, serving the exclusive interest of the big capital, and
> bringing grist to far right mills.+++
>
> HSF SR
>
> "Sim� Endre" <> �rta:
>
> Dear Italian Friends,
>
> Could somebody give us a correct information about the attack of
> FIOM activists against the CISL TUC in Rome?!
>
> Es
>
> Dear Italian Friends,
>
>
>
> Could somebody give us a correct information about the attack of FIOM activists against the CISL TUC in Rome?!
>
>
>
> Es_______________________________________________
___________________________________________________

Posted on the FSE-ESF mailing list. Go to http://lists.fse-esf.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fse-esf to subscribe. Dear Alessandra, If your informations are correct, it is incomprehensible why leaders of CGIL, which FIOM is affiliated, have energically condemned the action and invited FIOM to exclude from his ranks the responsibles for this new aggression, executed not only with eggs, but also with tear gas, like it was on 8 September against CISL president Bonanni at the forum of PD.es

"" <> �rta:
>Dear Simo, dear Hungarian social forum roundtable and dear all,
>
>first of all it would be better to wait for an answer of clarification,
>before taking a position. I received just now the message below message.
>Here the answers:
>- first of all: what happened? Some social activists of a movement
>called "Rights in Action" (NO FIOM) threw some eggs and red paint
>against the building of CISL head quarter in Rome.
>- We don't consider this an aggression neither a violence, but an
>unuseful and wrong act that is used to support an instrumental harsh
>campaign against all those who are trying to resist to Governement and
>employers attacks - aggressions to labour, first of all the cancellation
>of the collective national contract.
>- Our evaluation is the same for the previous fact, happened in
>Bergamo: eggs against the local Cisl head quarter, thrown by few
>workers, Fiom members
>
>We invited all our members and also those who are not, to refrain from
>such acts, mainly used against metalworkers and Fiom, and all those who
>"dissent".
>
>The campaign (against "violence, terrorism, and other similiar things"
>that have nothing to do with EGGS....), leaded by Governement and
>Ministry of labour in particular, and by some mainstream media, is
>intended to undermine the big national metalworkers demonstration in
>Rome on the 16th of october, called by Fiom, where many other
>associations, social movements, and parties will participate. Title of
>the demonstration: *NO TO BLACKMAIL, YES TO THE RIGHTS - WORK IS A
>COMMON GOOD! (Solidarity messages are most welcome!)*
>
>Actually, Fiom is* "guilty" *because we are the only Union who refused
>to sign agreements with Federmeccanica (employers association), with
>Fiat, with Governement - agreements detrimental for workers' and Union
>rights, destroying the national collective contract, agreements that
>the other Unions (including Cisl) did sign, without any democratic
>workers' mandate!!!!
>And this is the reason why workers are angry, neither extremists nor
>"far leftist"!
>
>*To be very frank, dear hungarian friends, I consider these separate
>agreements the real "intolerable attack" and the real "antidemocratic
>act destinate to divide the working society".
>PLEASE, THINK ABOUT!
>
>I will be pleased to send more informations, if requested!
>
>All the best to all of you
>Alessandra Mecozzi
>*
>
>Sim� Endre ha scritto:
>> The Hungarian Social Forum - Social Roundtable expresses his
>> Solidarity with the Italian CISL Trade Union Confederation aggressed
>> by a group of extremists of FIOM on Wednesday in Rome. We consider
>> intolerable the attack of workers against other workers not accepting
>> far leftist ideology. We call the attention of the ESF to the grave
>> danger of such antidemocratic acts destinated to divide the Working
>> Society, serving the exclusive interest of the big capital, and
>> bringing grist to far right mills.+++
>>
>> HSF SR
>>
>> "Sim� Endre" <> �rta:
>>
>> Dear Italian Friends,
>>
>> Could somebody give us a correct information about the attack of
>> FIOM activists against the CISL TUC in Rome?!
>>
>> Es
>>
>> Dear Italian Friends,
>>
>>
>>
>> Could somebody give us a correct information about the attack of FIOM activists against the CISL TUC in Rome?!
>>
>>
>>
>> Es_______________________________________________
___________________________________________________

Posted on the FSE-ESF mailing list. Go to http://lists.fse-esf.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fse-esf to subscribe. Simo, what is really incomprehensible for me is your strong concern
about "internal italian trade unions' eggs affairs"! Political debate
and also struggle is a different thing.
In any case we will not exclude from Fiom ranks people throwing eggs! I
suggest you to be more careful also in reading newspapers. No tear gas
(just fumogene), and not by fiom, but by a young woman student, in
september! And this is my last answer about "eggs case" on the list. If
you want to continue the "egg debate", please let's do it personally. Thanks
Alessandra

Sim� Endre ha scritto:
> Dear Alessandra,
>
> If your informations are correct, it is incomprehensible why leaders
> of CGIL, which FIOM is affiliated, have energically condemned the
> action and invited FIOM to exclude from his ranks the responsibles for
> this new aggression, executed not only with eggs, but also with tear
> gas, like it was on 8 September against CISL president Bonanni at the
> forum of PD.
> es
>
> "" <> �rta:
>
> Dear Simo, dear Hungarian social forum roundtable and dear all,
>
> first of all it would be better to wait for an answer of clarification,
> before taking a position. I received just now the message below message.
> Here the answers:
> - first of all: what happened? Some social activists of a movement
> called "Rights in Action" (NO FIOM) threw some eggs and red paint
> against the building of CISL head quarter in Rome.
> - We don't consider this an aggression neither a violence, but an
> unuseful and wrong act that is used to support an instrumental harsh
> campaign against all those who are trying to resist to Governement and
> employers attacks - aggressions to labour, first of all the cancellation
> of the collective national contract.
> - Our evaluation is the same for the previous fact, happened in
> Bergamo: eggs against the local Cisl head quarter, thrown by few
> workers, Fiom members
>
> We invited all our members and also those who are not, to refrain from
> such acts, mainly used against metalworkers and Fiom, and all those who
> "dissent".
>
> The campaign (against "violence, terrorism, and other similiar things"
> that have nothing to do with EGGS....), leaded by Governement and
> Ministry of labour in particular, and by some mainstream media, is
> intended to undermine the big national metalworkers demonstration in
> Rome on the 16th of october, called by Fiom, where many other
> associations, social movements, and parties will participate. Title of
> the demonstration: *NO TO BLACKMAIL, YES TO THE RIGHTS - WORK IS A
> COMMON GOOD! (Solidarity messages are most welcome!)*
>
> Actually, Fiom is* "guilty" *because we are the only Union who refused
> to sign agreements with Federmeccanica (employers association), with
> Fiat, with Governement - agreements detrimental for workers' and Union
> rights, destroying the national collective contract, agreements that
> the other Unions (including Cisl) did sign, without any democratic
> workers' mandate!!!!
> And this is the reason why workers are angry, neither extremists nor
> "far leftist"!
>
> *To be very frank, dear hungarian friends, I consider these separate
> agreements the real "intolerable attack" and the real "antidemocratic
> act destinate to divide the working society".
> PLEASE, THINK ABOUT!
>
> I will be pleased to send more informations, if requested!
>
> All the best to all of you
> Alessandra Mecozzi
> *
>
> Sim� Endre ha scritto:
> > The Hungarian Social Forum - Social Roundtable expresses his
> > Solidarity with the Italian CISL Trade Union Confederation aggressed
> > by a group of extremists of FIOM on Wednesday in Rome. We consider
> > intolerable the attack of workers against other workers not accepting
> > far leftist ideology. We call the attention of the ESF to the grave
> > danger of such antidemocratic acts destinated to divide the Working
> > Society, serving the exclusive interest of the big capital, and
> > bringing grist to far right mills.+++
> >
> > HSF SR
> >
> > "Sim� Endre" <> �rta:
> >
> > Dear Italian Friends,
> >
> > Could somebody give us a correct information about the attack of
> > FIOM activists against the CISL TUC in Rome?!
> >
> > Es
> >
> > Dear Italian Friends,
> >
> >
> >
> > Could somebody give us a correct information about the attack of FIOM activists against the CISL TUC in Rome?!
> >
> >
> >
> > Es_______________________________________________
___________________________________________________

Posted on the FSE-ESF mailing list. Go to http://lists.fse-esf.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fse-esf to subscribe. La Repubblica, a paper that surely cannot be idetified with the radical left, talks about "il lancio di vernice, uova, fumogeni e volantini" which translates as "the throwing of paint, eggs, 'smoke bombs' (a type of firework which emits coloured smoke) and leaflets". No mention of tear gas because there was no teargas. Anyway. Alessandra clearly never condoned these attacks, but stressed that they are far from being 'terrorist' acts as they are portrayed in most of the 'regime' press. The attacks are being blown up out of proportion in an attempt (not even very subtle) to delegitimise Fiom and any other form of opposition to the methodical dismantling of worker's rights. This attempt is clearly -and regrettably - being successful. The attacks have the main fault of having served just nicely this purpose, but the substance of the workers' situation (and legitimate anger) is what we should be focussing the discussion on, instead of playing the game they want us to play.
Giovanna Fassetta (member of FlcCgil)

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Dear Alessandra,

If your informations are correct, it is incomprehensible why leaders of CGIL, which FIOM is affiliated, have energically condemned the action and invited FIOM to exclude from his ranks the responsibles for this new aggression, executed not only with eggs, but also with tear gas, like it was on 8 September against CISL president Bonanni at the forum of PD.

es

"" <> írta:

Dear Simo, dear Hungarian social forum roundtable and dear all,

first of all it would be better to wait for an answer of clarification,

before taking a position. I received just now the message below message.

Here the answers:

- first of all: what happened? Some social activists of a movement

called "Rights in Action" (NO FIOM) threw some eggs and red paint

against the building of CISL head quarter in Rome.

- We don't consider this an aggression neither a violence, but an

unuseful and wrong act that is used to support an instrumental harsh

campaign against all those who are trying to resist to Governement and

employers attacks - aggressions to labour, first of all the cancellation

of the collective national contract.

- Our evaluation is the same for the previous fact, happened in

Bergamo: eggs against the local Cisl head quarter, thrown by few

workers, Fiom members

We invited all our members and also those who are not, to refrain from

such acts, mainly used against metalworkers and Fiom, and all those who

"dissent".

The campaign (against "violence, terrorism, and other similiar things"

that have nothing to do with EGGS....), leaded by Governement and

Ministry of labour in particular, and by some mainstream media, is

intended to undermine the big national metalworkers demonstration in

Rome on the 16th of october, called by Fiom, where many other

associations, social movements, and parties will participate. Title of

the demonstration: *NO TO BLACKMAIL, YES TO THE RIGHTS - WORK IS A

COMMON GOOD! (Solidarity messages are most welcome!)*

Actually, Fiom is* "guilty" *because we are the only Union who refused

to sign agreements with Federmeccanica (employers association), with

Fiat, with Governement - agreements detrimental for workers' and Union

rights, destroying the national collective contract, agreements that

the other Unions (including Cisl) did sign, without any democratic

workers' mandate!!!!

And this is the reason why workers are angry, neither extremists nor

"far leftist"!

*To be very frank, dear hungarian friends, I consider these separate

agreements the real "intolerable attack" and the real "antidemocratic

act destinate to divide the working society".

PLEASE, THINK ABOUT!

I will be pleased to send more informations, if requested!

All the best to all of you

Alessandra Mecozzi

*

Simó Endre ha scritto:

> The Hungarian Social Forum - Social Roundtable expresses his

> Solidarity with the Italian CISL Trade Union Confederation aggressed

> by a group of extremists of FIOM on Wednesday in Rome. We consider

> intolerable the attack of workers against other workers not accepting

> far leftist ideology. We call the attention of the ESF to the grave

> danger of such antidemocratic acts destinated to divide the Working

> Society, serving the exclusive interest of the big capital, and

> bringing grist to far right mills.+++

>

> HSF SR

>

> "Simó Endre" <> írta:

>

> Dear Italian Friends,

>

> Could somebody give us a correct information about the attack of

> FIOM activists against the CISL TUC in Rome?!

>

> Es

>

> Dear Italian Friends,

>

>  

>

> Could somebody give us a correct information about the attack of FIOM activists against the CISL TUC in Rome?!

>

>  

>

> Es_______________________________________________
___________________________________________________

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